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      06-20-2019, 10:57 PM   #23
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I think the M2C doesn't require supervision for the drive... guessing the turned off DSC and went crazy on it.
I believe m850 and m5 comp require supervision. Others do not.
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I believe m850 and m5 comp require supervision. Others do not.
I wonder if that guy just ruined the M2C test drive for cities downstream since it's totaled. I'm doing it early July.
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I am coming from owning 5 Seven series cars and sat in the new G20. I have extended leather in my current car and while it is very nice, the upkeep can be tedious. I have also owned 3 previous 3 series and now my daughter has a f30 and my wife has on also, a convertible. I dont fell the interior is cheap and from a standpoint of maintenance, it's great. It's not a 100k car and it's as good as any car in that criteria. I will be purchasing one soon.
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I wonder if that guy just ruined the M2C test drive for cities downstream since it's totaled. I'm doing it early July.
I was thinking the same thing. Considering all the cars at New Jersey plates, I wonder how they are going to get a new one?
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I wonder if that guy just ruined the M2C test drive for cities downstream since it's totaled. I'm doing it early July.
Just went to the event in NJ and they did have another m2 comp. So have no fear. Just before my turn though, some jackass, of whom I can say a lot more but won't, took it for 30 min drive. Actual drive is barely 10 min. They had to call him twice. Blamed it on navigation.

The only car they wanted to supervise was m850 and even that by the time I got it it they didn't care. m850 feels and drives like convertible x5. Feels huge and has softer ride. Engine is pretty powerful, of course, but hated the ride.

x3m I liked a lot more than I thought I would. I like the new m design inside.

Back to the OP comment, I don't want to put anymore oil into that fire. but one part I hated on m340 was center button cluster near shifter. Comfort/sports/whatever button is a single button, instead of separate 3, feel super cheap and whole thing kind of gives way when pressing it. Same design seems to be shared between new models but on x5 and x7 in the showroom it feels a little better. Different plastic and doesn't have this movement.
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Just went to the event in NJ and they did have another m2 comp. So have no fear. Just before my turn though, some jackass, of whom I can say a lot more but won't, took it for 30 min drive. Actual drive is barely 10 min. They had to call him twice. Blamed it on navigation.

The only car they wanted to supervise was m850 and even that by the time I got it it they didn't care. m850 feels and drives like convertible x5. Feels huge and has softer ride. Engine is pretty powerful, of course, but hated the ride.

x3m I liked a lot more than I thought I would. I like the new m design inside.

Back to the OP comment, I don't want to put anymore oil into that fire. but one part I hated on m340 was center button cluster near shifter. Comfort/sports/whatever button is a single button, instead of separate 3, feel super cheap and whole thing kind of gives way when pressing it. Same design seems to be shared between new models but on x5 and x7 in the showroom it feels a little better. Different plastic and doesn't have this movement.
Remember I went to M Town in Southern California so the M2C you got was different. Not sure how they are going to get another one from back east out here quickly for upcoming events.
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
But not with 4 doors in a sedan/gran coupe form. There will be an upcoming FWD based 2 series gran coupe, but it won't have an inline 6 and likely won't have a manual.
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Excited to hear your thoughts on both! Cheers mate!
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I am coming from owning 5 Seven series cars and sat in the new G20. I have extended leather in my current car and while it is very nice, the upkeep can be tedious. I have also owned 3 previous 3 series and now my daughter has a f30 and my wife has on also, a convertible. I dont fell the interior is cheap and from a standpoint of maintenance, it's great. It's not a 100k car and it's as good as any car in that criteria. I will be purchasing one soon.
Quite crap for a well optioned 60k car IMHO. BMW did not deliver as expected from a high volume M marketing crap car with this new gen 3.
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
But not with 4 doors in a sedan/gran coupe form. There will be an upcoming FWD based 2 series gran coupe, but it won't have an inline 6 and likely won't have a manual.
Ok I see where you specified "sedan".
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
But not with 4 doors in a sedan/gran coupe form. There will be an upcoming FWD based 2 series gran coupe, but it won't have an inline 6 and likely won't have a manual.
I was disappointed when I'd heard that the 2gc was going to be fwd or awd with a transverse engine layout. Might as well just go with a civic type r. If anyone can make a fun, compact, fwd, it would be Honda.
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
But not with 4 doors in a sedan/gran coupe form. There will be an upcoming FWD based 2 series gran coupe, but it won't have an inline 6 and likely won't have a manual.
I was disappointed when I'd heard that the 2gc was going to be fwd or awd with a transverse engine layout. Might as well just go with a civic type r. If anyone can make a fun, compact, fwd, it would be Honda.
True, although I'd probably go for a Golf R, the Civic Type R just screams "Anime Boy Racer"
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Thanks for the write up! I 100% agree with the comments about the material choice and increasing size of the car. The world would be an amazing place if an M240i sedan the size of an E46 with a manual, rwd platform, and inline 6 existed. Sadly that won't happen.

I plan on testing an M340i as well at the M Town event, and also have a C43 test drive planned on the same day as the dealer is next door and it will give me a good back to back feel of each car.
Wait, there is. It's the m240i with a manual. Isn't a 6mt currently available in the m240i?
But not with 4 doors in a sedan/gran coupe form. There will be an upcoming FWD based 2 series gran coupe, but it won't have an inline 6 and likely won't have a manual.
I was disappointed when I'd heard that the 2gc was going to be fwd or awd with a transverse engine layout. Might as well just go with a civic type r. If anyone can make a fun, compact, fwd, it would be Honda.
True, although I'd probably go for a Golf R, the Civic Type R just screams "Anime Boy Racer"
Yes it does. Although I thought I saw a headline about a small winged variant being spotted out and about. Still it's something you get in a dark color and drive under the cover of night
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We have one on order. We spent a good amount of time driving it before deciding. It is larger, though i didn't notice too much compared to the M3. The power delivery is great, its not a raw as the M3 but still impressive. I found the interior ok, not great. I did notice the plastic if i recall correctly. The seats were comfy. I'm glad they brought back the bolster (perfect for stashing your cell). I HATED that grill in pictures but i'm actually warming to it. I added the CF spoiler to give it some flare. I don't know if I'll enjoy it as much as the M3, I know i'll enjoy the comfort more though.

I didn't have an F30 so I can't speak on the OP's post but I think when you own the previous model you have high standards for the next and it takes a lot to win you over. Going wayyyy back, when Acura changed from the Integra GSR to RSX i didn't want it and when Lexus when from the IS300 to the 250/350 I didn't want that either.
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Yeah I would disagree with a lot of this but good to hear multiple impressions. Interesting that F30 owners don't like the G20 but F30 haters (me included) generally do like it. Different preferences I guess.
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Yeah I would disagree with a lot of this but good to hear multiple impressions. Interesting that F30 owners don't like the G20 but F30 haters (me included) generally do like it. Different preferences I guess.
Love love love our two F30's (340 & 328 both MSports) and very much looking forward to our new G20 M340 next year. Had a G20 loaner for about 10 days and enjoyed it quite a bit
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I've driven a red M340 today on the M-Town event today.
Got mixed feelings.
I owned 2018 340 xDrive M Sport with adaptive suspension for 6 months last year which I mostly liked except for the steering which I hated.
Currently I drive 2016 535 xDrive base model which I hate except for the steering which is kind of OK.

Yes M340 feels a little bit bigger than 2018 340, but coming from F10 it did not feel large to me, rather small instead.

I liked the engine power but not the sound. It was too noisy to my taste in all modes, including the comfort mode.

Normally I do not want to hear a car's engine unless I do want to hear it and I only want to hear the engine when playing with something like a Mustang on a highway.
In this M340 you hear the engine all the time even when just following a 4 cylinder Camry.

There also was too much wind noise coming from the drivers window. It actually was so bad that I suspect that something was wrong with the car.

The car was a fully loaded M340 with a track pack.

I did not like the suspension much either. Very firm wheels/tires and somewhat soft suspension in comfort mode. In sport/sport+ mode the suspension was nicely firm but 19 wheels made the ride choppy and too firm to my taste.

The steering was firm, heavy and weird just like 2017 340 with M Performance pack I once drove.

Overall the car reminded me that 2017 340 with M performance pack. That car I somewhat liked but disqualified it as a family car.

My lease ends before the end of this year and I am still not decided between M340 and 540 MSport. If BMW would put 382hp engine into 540, I probably would get a 540. Now I do not know but leaning towards 540

Maybe I am just too old for this car. I am over 40 with a wife and a 7 year old kid. My family does not object speed (I routinely get to 120mph in the big kahuna 535) but they not going to accept much noise of any kind.
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In this M340 you hear the engine all the time even when just following a 4 cylinder Camry.

There also was too much wind noise coming from the drivers window. It actually was so bad that I suspect that something was wrong with the car.
Wow, I love hearing the engine all the time. Plus I drive with the windows down all the time so the window noise isn't a factor. Funny how your negatives are positives to me
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So I finally got to drive the new M340i last night and I thought I would share my takeaways on it. So let's get right to it, shall we??

Pros:
- The steering is a little better than my F30. It's weird, but it is more direct and has better turn in, however, it feels more artificial than my F30's rack. My F30's feels better, but does not react as quick as the G30.

- The new iDrive display is nice and big. I really like how it works and is a vast improvement over the F30.

- The digital dash is pretty cool, but there is just WAY too much going on in there. It's a lot to take in, and I'm not sure I love how the tach works in reverse.

- The exhaust sounds good good in sport mode. It's a little quieter than my MPPSK, but not by much. Some nice burbles and pops.

- Power delivery is good and more linear than my F30. I would say it is a little faster, but not by much. I think the extra horses make it smoother, but the car also feels heavier so I'm not sure.

- The car is much quieter than my F30 which is a really good thing.

Cons:
- The interior is cheap, cheap, cheap....I was very disappointed in the hard plastic used. It feels even cheaper than my F30 which I didn't think is possible. I hate the way the dash slopes down. Not a good look.

- The car is just too big. It feels like a 5 series. It is no longer a smaller car that is fun to throw around. The F30 was already getting too big and they just made it bigger.

- The wheels look too small for the car. Even though they are 19's, with how big the wheel arches are, they look like 17's on it. It might look good on 20's but who knows?

- I'm just not a fan of the overall look of the car. I'm sure it will grow on me, but it's going to take some time.

- The M badge should not be on this car. I'm not sure what DNA it gets from any M car but it should definitely just be a 340i.

To sum things up, is it a better car than the F30? Of course it is, and it should be. It's not enough for me to want to get rid of my 340i, but maybe enough for others. The car is too big and no longer feels like a 3 series. I love all the technology, but it feels overdone. I'm probably missing a lot, so feel free to ask any questions.

On a side note, there was time to drive another BMW after my M340i drive and I knew they had an M2 competition, so I asked if I could take it for a spin. Unfortunately, some jackass had totaled it 2 hours before I got there, hitting a tree while going around a corner.
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