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      01-21-2020, 08:58 AM   #23
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Just for the record... I had an E39 530 sport. Naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine (before the days of throwing turbo's on everything), 5 speed manual transmission, 2 wheel drive, hydraulic steering. Absolutely sublime.
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Just for the record... I had an E39 530 sport. Naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine (before the days of throwing turbo's on everything), 5 speed manual transmission, 2 wheel drive, hydraulic steering. Absolutely sublime.
You're bringing back some sweet memories. My brother bought a brand new 1999 528i in cashmere beige metallic with the sand beige interior. It was the first BMW i ever drove and I learned how to drive in that car. I'll never forget it. The interior was absolutely gorgeous with that wrap around walnut wood trim. The soft leather seats were the most comfortable of any car I've ever sat in. And the simplicity-just get in and drive. No gadgets, no tech, just you and the car. I wish I could drive that car forever. There will never be a driving experience that will ever come close to that.
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Interesting- what did you like about the A4? I rented a B9 A4(non sport) from silver car Audi and drove it from Denver to Aspen. It was a very comfortable highway cruiser but that was about it. Steering was way too light and numb (even by EPS standards) and the car didnít feel particularly agile-way too much roll in the corners when pushed hard. It felt pretty quick though and the seats were comfortable. 330i feels much more nimble and confidence inspiring when I push it and just has much better overall feel/
My A4 was tuned, had a CAI, was lowered and had a strut bar, transmission insert swap etc. Stock for stock, Iíd say both cars have their own positives and negatives and I agree with your insight. But slightly modded like mine, it was a much better car than stock. Handled way better, was faster than stock (and my 330i) and was also smooth too. I think the engine in the A4 is smoother and quieter than the one in the 330i. It was also more spacious, had a much much better sound system and looked better (thatís just my opinion though). Iím looking at both cars as a whole. Not just from a fun to drive perspective.
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      01-21-2020, 08:46 PM   #26
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I just had a G20 330 xdrive loaner for 3 days, or about 300 miles. I think it's a fantastic car for a non enthusiast. It feels like it has enough power until you really get on it; and the suspension is fine until you push it. Even the base audio system is fine if you don't try and listen at too high a volume or have high expectations.
interesting you mentioned the standard hifi on the 330i. The day I put a few hundred miles on the loaner I thought the hifi was great.

I have the harmon kardon in the X3M40i and to my ear the hifi in the 330i sounds better.

Maybe because the cabin is smaller in the 330i but also the lack of wind noise at highway speeds in the 330i vs the X3 is notable

I was using bluetooth Spotify on my iphone and sirius

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Am the only one who doesn’t think the 330i is underpowered ? I guess it’s all relative and this is a forum for enthusiasts but I’ve never been in a single situation in this car where I felt like I needed more power. Every morning I merge on the highway and I’m at 90mph before I can even blink. Transmission is always lightning fast too. I do have the lighter RWD 330i and maybe some of these loaners have been running 87 octane. All this while averaging 37mpg!

Genuine question - Where/when are you guys using the extra power In day to day commuting ?
today I picked up 3 of my grandboys at school in the M40i. The boys are 4,8,10.....two oldest are gettin into cars. So I dropped the M40i into Super Sport mode and play with the gas pedal. The 6 cylinder is quick even in the X3, but the 330i is more than enough for any daily driving. As said, highway merge, 90mph will come real quick with the 4 banger.

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I'm totally with you. I have the 330i RWD and running on octane 100 (sometimes 98) and has plenty of power. It's fast, nimble and just fun to drive. Of course it's not a 340i - but it's all I would ever need.
If I were to get a 330i it would be RWD.
Curious???
I've read on some of the M340i threads that with the power it was not uncommon for the ass end to kick out in the rain in spirited driving with RWD model.

Any issues in the rain with a RWD 330i ?

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If I were to get a 330i it would be RWD.
Curious???
I've read on some of the M340i threads that with the power it was not uncommon for the ass end to kick out in the rain in spirited driving with RWD model.

Any issues in the rain with a RWD 330i ?

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My xdrive kicks itís rear end out when I take sharp turns spiritedly, especially in the wet or when thereís snow. If youíre going real fast, it does it in the dry too.
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You're bringing back some sweet memories. My brother bought a brand new 1999 528i in cashmere beige metallic with the sand beige interior. It was the first BMW i ever drove and I learned how to drive in that car. I'll never forget it. The interior was absolutely gorgeous with that wrap around walnut wood trim. The soft leather seats were the most comfortable of any car I've ever sat in. And the simplicity-just get in and drive. No gadgets, no tech, just you and the car. I wish I could drive that car forever. There will never be a driving experience that will ever come close to that.
See that I'm not the only one!

There IS another driving experience thats even better. I have a 1995 Porsche 993 C2. All analogue, flat-6, six speed, polar silver/black leather. The drive, the engine, the sound, the smell, the look, the stance, the soul. Pure emotion. It's definitely a forever car. Buy one. You'll never lose a penny.
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You're bringing back some sweet memories. My brother bought a brand new 1999 528i in cashmere beige metallic with the sand beige interior. It was the first BMW i ever drove and I learned how to drive in that car. I'll never forget it. The interior was absolutely gorgeous with that wrap around walnut wood trim. The soft leather seats were the most comfortable of any car I've ever sat in. And the simplicity-just get in and drive. No gadgets, no tech, just you and the car. I wish I could drive that car forever. There will never be a driving experience that will ever come close to that.
Isn't it cool that a car can create such emotion?
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If I were to get a 330i it would be RWD.
Curious???
I've read on some of the M340i threads that with the power it was not uncommon for the ass end to kick out in the rain in spirited driving with RWD model.

Any issues in the rain with a RWD 330i ?

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In the Rain, lol? The M3 can be going 35 mph up an on ramp... a perfectly DRY on ramp, and get completely sideways if you were to floor it in second gear with the traction control off. No better car to drive like a hooligan
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If I were to get a 330i it would be RWD.
Curious???
I've read on some of the M340i threads that with the power it was not uncommon for the ass end to kick out in the rain in spirited driving with RWD model.

Any issues in the rain with a RWD 330i ?

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I have the RWD 330i, no issues whatsoever. BUT! I did notice that while on the autobahn one day, it was quite damp, i was going pretty fast up a hill and the DSC light started flashing. Car did not feel unsafe though. It kept straight and was putting down the power ( I have M Diff).

That being said, it will kick the rear end out, you just have to be a bit more intentional about it than with a 340 to say.

It will though, its still a fast car, don't let it fool you.
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