M340i Software Update Neutered Sport+

TurtleBoy · 03-12-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

Is anyone still waiting on the latest software update? I haven't even been given the option for 11/2020 yet. I really just want to use waze through android auto....

11/2020 OTA started rolling out to US X5s the other day so hopefully the 3-Series will start shortly.

wtwo3 · 03-12-2021, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

11/2020 OTA started rolling out to US X5s the other day so hopefully the 3-Series will start shortly.

Thanks. Android Auto was part of 7/2020 correct? I never received that either so perhaps I'll end up skipping it if they ever get me an update. My X5 does have android auto now, just not my 3 series.

TurtleBoy · 03-12-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

Thanks. Android Auto was part of 7/2020 correct? I never received that either so perhaps I'll end up skipping it if they ever get me an update. My X5 does have android auto now, just not my 3 series.

Yes, it was a feature added in 7/2020. Hopefully they just give you 11/2020 soon and you should be set.

DenHaag3er · 03-12-2021, 05:43 PM

Mine is bugging me to update to 11/. I just had it bench unlocked so no way jose. Not paying another 150 quid to unlock or risk having it permanently locked.

wtwo3 · 03-17-2021, 01:57 PM

FINALLY updated to 7/2020. Absolutely no difference in burble/pops or performance. And I finally have Android Auto!

RedKloud · 03-17-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

FINALLY updated to 7/2020. Absolutely no difference in burble/pops or performance. And I finally have Android Auto!

Did you get it OTA or through dealer?

wtwo3 · 03-17-2021, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKloud

Did you get it OTA or through dealer?

OTA

EXE46 · 03-17-2021, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

FINALLY updated to 7/2020. Absolutely no difference in burble/pops or performance. And I finally have Android Auto!

Why you waited this long lol? I had this last year.

RedKloud · 03-17-2021, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EXE46

Why you waited this long lol? I had this last year.

I still haven’t gotten it. I’m on 07/2019

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EXE46 · 03-17-2021, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKloud

I still haven’t gotten it. I’m on 07/2019

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WTH, have you checked the phone app? is your phone updated to latest firmware ? that's strange indeed.

wtwo3 · 03-17-2021, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EXE46

Why you waited this long lol? I had this last year.

Yeah I JUST today got notification for it. Kept refreshing the app on my phone and checking iDrive in the car since last year to try and get it. Not sure why such a huge delay. My X5 got it last year.

Fossilblue · 11-22-2021, 12:03 PM

I took my car (2020 M340i) to get an oil change. They stated that there was a recall needed. I went along with it. Got my car back and right away noticed a change in tune. No more quick shift in sport plus and the noise from the burps were way less. They stated the tune was to prevent the oil pump from being damaged. Trust me, they are de-tuning the M340i. I had them check the car and of course they stated nothing wrong with the vehicle. For those who have not done the recall, up to you but you will regret it you do it.

Fossilblue · 11-22-2021, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.G20 M340

I just flashed my car and they had to put it on the new DME software and the burbles and pops are totally gone.
I went with mission performance and I asked them to make it pop and they said the new update prevents the car from popping. I don't know how true this is, I'm waiting to see if I can find someone with BM3 and newest update to see if that is true. Alex at mission said I can send him and email and they'll see what they can do but they don't like to do it because they want to save the turbo. The thing about that is the burbles and pops were significantly louder and more noticeable when the car was stock and old DME so I'd think bmw would have tuned the engine to not deteriorate the turbo with the stock burbles it has. I know it sounds like I'm a deuce for saying this, but the car doesn't feel the same when I let off the throttle at high speeds after shifting up and If I see BM3 has a way around this then I'm going with them. I'll keep you guys updated

I took my car (2020 M340i) to get an oil change. They stated that there was a recall needed. I went along with it. Got my car back and right away noticed a change in tune. No more quick shift in sport plus and the noise from the burps were way less. They stated the tune was to prevent the oil pump from being damaged. Trust me, they are de-tuning the M340i. I had them check the car and of course they stated nothing wrong with the vehicle. For those who have not done the recall, up to you but you will regret it you do it.

sharepointalex · 11-23-2021, 05:40 AM

Is this still a thing (M340i getting quieter post software update)?? I've not been following this thread for some time and I deliberately disabled software updates.

However I'm now booked in for that front wing recall and to have one of the door seals replaced which is falling off!

And I'm not worried about the update, did anyone just put a post it in the car saying 'Don't update' ??

Am in the UK btw, not sure if the UK updates are the same or if it's US only?

Thanks

CrownRoyal79 · 11-23-2021, 12:57 PM

It's a real thing. I wasn't a believer until after they did the brake recall in my car. And I have a very early 2020 build. I still have pops and burbles but I have to drive much more aggressive to get them. I can't prove this, but it feels like they changed the shift points in sport/sport+. Definitely noticeable and it does suck but there's no point in complaining to the dealer.

wtwo3 · 11-23-2021, 03:02 PM

I still haven't experienced this. Got a software update when I did the brake recall and have not noticed a single difference. Still pops and burbles and shift points seem to be unchanged.

zazzau · 11-24-2021, 12:07 PM

On a related note you can turn off OTA on iDrive. So yeah while it's true that someone halfway across the globe could control your car from a laptop - LOL - you can do something about it, just like I did. Mine is permanently off! Whenever my car comes to the dealer I make sure to leave a note, in bold letters, not to update my software.

That said, I agree that BMW should have at least notified customers of these changes; however it's still not clear why some cars see no changes and remain as aggressive-sounding after upgrading to latest software.

Transfer · 11-25-2021, 08:32 AM

I have all updates on my 2020 and it drives and sounds the same as day one. No idea what you guys are talking about.

I suppose if there was a change to the sport+ shift algorithm, I wouldn't notice it because I shift manually in sport+. All seems great to me though with updates.

themnmd · 11-25-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wtwo3

I still haven't experienced this. Got a software update when I did the brake recall and have not noticed a single difference. Still pops and burbles and shift points seem to be unchanged.

Same July 2019 build, no issues last update and every update prior

Benjamin_Nicholas · 11-25-2021, 07:04 PM

This is what I call over concerned owners who want to believe.

If you have a case, prove it and sue.

Until then, you're Scientologists to me.

zazzau · 11-26-2021, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin_Nicholas

This is what I call over concerned owners who want to believe.

If you have a case, prove it and sue.

Until then, you're Scientologists to me.

I believe what OP is saying. I wouldn't categorize as "over concerned" since these are genuine concerns that fall short of the expectations of a few owners. First World problems probably. There's a thread where this discussion first started and on that thread few people did mention that their dealership acknowledged/conceded the change — after being presented with evidence. There are also videos out there showing before and after.

Personally don't care for it, I have M340xi MY2021 and I feel it got a little louder after the upgrade (few people have reported seeing the same as well.) I know I'm not paranoid or a Scientologist. LOL

As far as suing I highly doubt there's an argument to be made there; I'd be curious to hear the legal argument. Don't waste your money on a lawyer and just enjoy your car.

thewusman · 11-27-2021, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by zazzau

I believe what OP is saying. I wouldn't categorize as "over concerned" since these are genuine concerns that fall short of the expectations of a few owners. First World problems probably. There's a thread where this discussion first started and on that thread few people did mention that their dealership acknowledged/conceded the change — after being presented with evidence. There are also videos out there showing before and after.

Personally don't care for it, I have M340xi MY2021 and I feel it got a little louder after the upgrade (few people have reported seeing the same as well.) I know I'm not paranoid or a Scientologist. LOL

As far as suing I highly doubt there's an argument to be made there; I'd be curious to hear the legal argument. Don't waste your money on a lawyer and just enjoy your car.

You've summarized it well.

MY 2021 (September 2020 build) with extreme cracks and pops before, much softer after.

Also have videos to prove it and dealer admitted this was to comply with gradual reduction in dB requirements for EU laws - BMW is taking a one size fits all approach.

Nobody is going to win.

New M3/M4 has the same issue.

As for the Scientology comments; lol.

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Fossilblue Registered 2 Rep 2 Posts Drives: BMW 340i Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (0)	I took my car (2020 M340i) to get an oil change. They stated that there was a recall needed. I went along with it. Got my car back and right away noticed a change in tune. No more quick shift in sport plus and the noise from the burps were way less. They stated the tune was to prevent the oil pump from being damaged. Trust me, they are de-tuning the M340i. I had them check the car and of course they stated nothing wrong with the vehicle. For those who have not done the recall, up to you but you will regret it you do it.
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sharepointalex First Lieutenant 136 Rep 398 Posts Drives: E91 330i Touring Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Nottingham, UK iTrader: (0)	Is this still a thing (M340i getting quieter post software update)?? I've not been following this thread for some time and I deliberately disabled software updates. However I'm now booked in for that front wing recall and to have one of the door seals replaced which is falling off! And I'm not worried about the update, did anyone just put a post it in the car saying 'Don't update' ?? Am in the UK btw, not sure if the UK updates are the same or if it's US only? Thanks
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CrownRoyal79 Lieutenant 284 Rep 402 Posts Drives: BMW 435i Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	It's a real thing. I wasn't a believer until after they did the brake recall in my car. And I have a very early 2020 build. I still have pops and burbles but I have to drive much more aggressive to get them. I can't prove this, but it feels like they changed the shift points in sport/sport+. Definitely noticeable and it does suck but there's no point in complaining to the dealer.
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zazzau Lieutenant Colonel 755 Rep 1,779 Posts Drives: 2021 M340i XDrive Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Earth iTrader: (0)	On a related note you can turn off OTA on iDrive. So yeah while it's true that someone halfway across the globe could control your car from a laptop - LOL - you can do something about it, just like I did. Mine is permanently off! Whenever my car comes to the dealer I make sure to leave a note, in bold letters, not to update my software. That said, I agree that BMW should have at least notified customers of these changes; however it's still not clear why some cars see no changes and remain as aggressive-sounding after upgrading to latest software.
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Transfer Major General 5254 Rep 5,874 Posts Drives: Bronco Wildtrak, Tesla MYP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Issaquah, WA iTrader: (1)	I have all updates on my 2020 and it drives and sounds the same as day one. No idea what you guys are talking about. I suppose if there was a change to the sport+ shift algorithm, I wouldn't notice it because I shift manually in sport+. All seems great to me though with updates.
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