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      07-19-2020, 11:44 AM   #199
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The lines on the 440 remind me of the Infiniti Q60
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      07-19-2020, 03:22 PM   #202
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The lines on the 440 remind me of the Infiniti Q60
The lines are modern BMW coupe as well displayed here:

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The lines on the 440 remind me of the Infiniti Q60
The lines are modern BMW coupe as well displayed here:

So... Is this why the 8-er coupe and vert were discontinued? The dimensions are very similar, too similar, especially when you're comparing a 4-series to an 8-series. I think I remember a comment that stated the two were so similar that the large grille was on purpose in order to differentiate it.
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      07-19-2020, 05:10 PM   #205
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Who ever designed the grill on that 440 should be taken behind the barn and shot.
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The M E34 is still a great looking car 👍🏾
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      07-19-2020, 07:53 PM   #207
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So... Is this why the 8-er coupe and vert were discontinued?
Let's be clear about this so there isn't false info floating around - the 8er Coupé and Cabriolet are still being produced, it's the M8 Coupé and Cabriolet that are being discontinued for at least MY21.
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The M E34 is still a great looking car 👍🏾
Agree, especially in touring form.
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So... Is this why the 8-er coupe and vert were discontinued?
Let's be clear about this so there isn't false info floating around - the 8er Coupé and Cabriolet are still being produced, it's the M8 Coupé and Cabriolet that are being discontinued for at least MY21.
This is correct. Thank you for the correction.
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The lines are modern BMW coupe as well displayed here:

So for about 40% less money, you can buy a similar sized and styled BMW sports coupe, with a look-alike, although less luxurious, interior; and, with a 6 instead of an 8, but electronically they both top out at the same speed... Grill? What grill? I didn’t see any grill.
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That E46 is the best looking car in that lot.

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Agree, especially in touring form.
To each their own, not really into the touring. Sedan destroys that design, and I am not usually an anti touring type. Just looks old and weird.
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US front plate will look even worse on the 4. How can a manufacturer design a car without considering the front plate?
I propose we all start a petition for our respective states to do away with front license plate requirements. They're only used for ticketing anyway - seriously, about 80% of front plate requirements are simply due to plate readers having trouble with angles / lighting / dirt / etc on about 20% of rear plates. My registration fees are already like $500 - I'd gladly make it $520 for no front plate requirement. And hell then they'd save money on not having to manufacture / ship 2 plates.
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I am starting to think that showing a picture of the 4 series to someone over and over again would be a excellent form of torture.
Locked in a room with non stop ASD blaring over speakers :
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Nice pics and definitely getting used to the new look of the 4er. Did you take any video of these that you can post on your YT channel?

BTW - I ran these number plates through the DVLA road tax/mot checker; they are both road taxed (makes sense as they are registered), the blue one is a diesel (obvs the grey one is petrol as shown by the badge) and the last registration document update is shown as 16 June 2020, so they have been in the country a little while and I'm guessing they're early cars intended for press reviews/tests.

I believe the public availability in the UK is set for October, so hoping might be able to get sight of these at dealership previews in September.

I'm quite close to BMW UK HQ, do they allow visitors/general public in?
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Could not agree more. Since wheels represent such as a personal choice - one that consumers are willing to pay extra for - BMW's unwillingness to earn extra profit per vehicle is literally puzzling at best.
Unfortunately I think you can blame WLTP emissions rules for the increasing lack of flexiblity in car option configurations (not just BMW). This is because for each set of options they have to recertify/retest emissions & consumption figures - so they end up limiting the choice.

I heard this blamed in a video review I watched of the new Audi A4/S4 recently, where they basically said certain features were only available if you paid to go up to the next trim level (for example in the UK this might mean the new 'Vorsprung' trim versus R-Line or whatever) due to WLTP rules.

I've noticed this recently in the option packs they let you configure on the UK website; you can have this one feature only if you order 'X' option pack at £600/£1500/£2000 - even though you might not want the other 'y' number of features in that pack.

The other factor of course is build costs/profit margin; the more individual options you offer, the more it costs you to manage the supply chain and physically build each variation - whereas if you limit the options it makes it easier to predict demand and 'standardise' the build process to larger subsets of modules.

Looking at some of the latest BMW Individual program documents, if you get deep into the options it a) costs a fortune and b) delays your car by potentially 10's of weeks/months - as it looks like they pull it off the line and use outside contractors for finishing instead of trying to do it within the regular facilities.
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I propose we all start a petition for our respective states to do away with front license plate requirements. They're only used for ticketing anyway - seriously, about 80% of front plate requirements are simply due to plate readers having trouble with angles / lighting / dirt / etc on about 20% of rear plates. My registration fees are already like $500 - I'd gladly make it $520 for no front plate requirement. And hell then they'd save money on not having to manufacture / ship 2 plates.
We don't get the choice in the UK (or most of Europe for that matter), unless you're one of the chancers I see that drive around with illegal window tints and the front number plate perched on top the dashboard (which I'm sure they would claim "it just fell off, officer"!).
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Fair. Maybe mid 70s is more realistic if only light M performance options. The blackout grills are 500 when bought through the blacklines bmw option from the factory compare this to the 200 bucks they used to be in outgoing models. And the aluminum mirrors of the standard M440i make it so you cant just simply swap the grill to black. Bmw has learned how to upcharge for these wants.
List price on the UK configurator for a bone stock M440i in Portimao Blue is just under GBP 54K (incl. taxes etc). So with the shadowline pack at GBP 500 and using a loose exchange to USD you would be somewhere around low USD 70K.
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Fair. Maybe mid 70s is more realistic if only light M performance options. The blackout grills are 500 when bought through the blacklines bmw option from the factory compare this to the 200 bucks they used to be in outgoing models. And the aluminum mirrors of the standard M440i make it so you cant just simply swap the grill to black. Bmw has learned how to upcharge for these wants.
List price on the UK configurator for a bone stock M440i in Portimao Blue is just under GBP 54K (incl. taxes etc). So with the shadowline pack at GBP 500 and using a loose exchange to USD you would be somewhere around low USD 70K.
It doesn't work just converting to USD...we get cars cheaper over here than UK, so the US price would be lower than you predict using that method. I am Brit living in the US, so this was quite a shocker to me when I moved over here. Not sure what the reason is.
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