[FellowM3]

Please offer VS-5RS and please offer a group buy.

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Any intro special or groupbuy on these scheduled ?

Originally Posted by FellowM3

Please offer VS-5RS and please offer a group buy.

The SM-10s will be launching with a Group Buy but no details yet on that date. VS-5RS are next on the list but that is a whole other project.

-Tom

[STDK]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

They already have! Just not in 5x112 fitments... yet! We'll currently be launching our 5x112 SM-10s first but we may add the VS-5RS pictured below if we see enough interest for these wheels on the G2X 3 & 4 series platform.

Wheels: 19x9 ET30 VS-5RS in Brushed Clear Front & Rear
Tires: 245/35-19 Michelin PS4S

Ooooh yes PLEASE! I dream about the VS-5RS in Black or anthracite with a deep concave look

[Expert@ApexWheels]

We'll have the still photos of this shoot out for your viewing pleasure next week, but I wanted to give you a sneak peak at the video as we head into the weekend. For those of you curious to see what this fitment looks like with zero modifications and on a contrasting finish, we've got you covered. More to come soon!

Specifications

Wheels & Tires:
SM-10s in Anthracite with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires.
Front: 19x9" ET28 with 255/35-19
Rear: 19x10" ET38 with 275/35-19


Suspension:
Stock

Video Feature

[bimmerbeast1234]

Video looks great! What size tires would you recommend for those of us on xDrive? 255/35 and 285/30? Or 245/35 and 285/30?

[NoVaRob21]

Did you confirm the fitment clears the larger front breaks from the ZTK package? The pictures look like they have the bigger ones, but I wanted to confirm.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by NoVaRob21

Did you confirm the fitment clears the larger front breaks from the ZTK package? The pictures look like they have the bigger ones, but I wanted to confirm.

Very good question, the pics look like the smaller brakes to me but I'd be surprised they don't fit since my aftermarket 8.5 ET30 wheels clear them but they are pretty tight thought and barrel shape can vary a lot.

[Justagoodguy]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

We'll have the still photos of this shoot out for your viewing pleasure next week, but I wanted to give you a sneak peak at the video as we head into the weekend. For those of you curious to see what this fitment looks like with zero modifications and on a contrasting finish, we've got you covered. More to come soon!

Specifications

Wheels & Tires:
SM-10s in Anthracite with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S Tires.
Front: 19x9" ET28 with 255/35-19
Rear: 19x10" ET38 with 275/35-19


Suspension:
Stock

Video Feature

Please, try to test 40 tire ratio on front. Maybe litte bit narrow, but rly need 40 on front.

[xnick101]

Originally Posted by NoVaRob21

Did you confirm the fitment clears the larger front breaks from the ZTK package? The pictures look like they have the bigger ones, but I wanted to confirm.

I could be wrong here but someone said if you have the blue calipers up front it should have the ZTK package. The grey one had it so possibly it was ZTK. Again, I might be wrong.

[xnick101]

Apex, we need a group buy asap. Paypal ready!

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by xnick101

I could be wrong here but someone said if you have the blue calipers up front it should have the ZTK package. The grey one had it so possibly it was ZTK. Again, I might be wrong.

Yes you are wrong (politely said), blue calipers with 355mm rotors is standard on the M340i and optional on the 330i. The ZTK package has a different (bigger) caliper and a 374mm rotor, rear brakes are the same.

[xnick101]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Yes you are wrong (politely said), blue calipers with 355mm rotors is standard on the M340i and optional on the 330i. The ZTK package has a different (bigger) caliper and a 374mm rotor, rear brakes are the same.

Noted. I saw it on the forums. But I have a ZTK Package. Apex I can tell you if it fits

[NoVaRob21]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Very good question, the pics look like the smaller brakes to me but I'd be surprised they don't fit since my aftermarket 8.5 ET30 wheels clear them but they are pretty tight thought and barrel shape can vary a lot.

Looking back, I think you are right about those being the standard brakes. I am 99% sure the ones in the video were. My guess is they will fit fine as you pointed out, but a confirmation wouldn't hurt. My guess is many of Apex's would be customers will have the ZTK package.

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by bimmerbeast1234

Video looks great! What size tires would you recommend for those of us on xDrive? 255/35 and 285/30? Or 245/35 and 285/30?

There are a few options. One that you didn’t mention is 19x9 ET28 front and rear with a fully square tire set and a variety of square tire options:

245/35-19, 255/35-19, 265/35-19* (possible rubbing up front or small front spacer required depending on tire wi/265)

For the staggered setup: There are a few combinations that can work well:

Front: 235/40-19
Rear: 265/35-19
Front/rear split %: .4

Front: 245/35-19
Rear: 255/35-19
Front/rear split %: 1.06

Front: 255/35-19
Rear: 265/35-19
Front/rear split %: 1.05

Front: 255/35-19
Rear: 285/30-19
Front/rear split %: 1.15

Originally Posted by NoVaRob21

Did you confirm the fitment clears the larger front breaks from the ZTK package? The pictures look like they have the bigger ones, but I wanted to confirm.

Originally Posted by PLF69

Very good question, the pics look like the smaller brakes to me but I'd be surprised they don't fit since my aftermarket 8.5 ET30 wheels clear them but they are pretty tight thought and barrel shape can vary a lot.

We haven’t yet confirmed clearances against this kit as we haven’t been able to source a car running it in the Bay Area that we can bring in for laser scans. Anecdotally, I think it will clear. We’ve tested a Brembo g30 5 series template against these wheels that cleared with a 405mm rotor, but I do still want to validate ZTK clearances and have a scan of this kit on file for future wheel development.

Originally Posted by xnick101

Noted. I saw it on the forums. But I have a ZTK Package. Apex I can tell you if it fits

If you’re in the Bay Area and can volunteer for a scan/ testfit, we’d love the opportunity to take a look at your car/brakes.

Both featured cars and other test cars were on the standard brakes as far as I know.

-Tom

[bimmerbeast1234]

Thanks for the very thorough rundown of the tire sizes Tom! For the staggered setup on xDrive, wouldn't 245/35 front and 285/30 rear be better than 255/35 and 285/30, as well as many of the other setups? The difference in diameter is only 0.4... Which I believe is the % split you're referring to?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by bimmerbeast1234

Thanks for the very thorough rundown of the tire sizes Tom! For the staggered setup on xDrive, wouldn't 245/35 front and 285/30 rear be better than 255/35 and 285/30, as well as many of the other setups? The difference in diameter is only 0.4... Which I believe is the % split you're referring to?

Yes, the 245/35-19 and 285/30-19 combination is actually the closest staggered match with a .4mm or .08% difference between the front and rear heights. I don't really like this combination as much though because of the front to rear tire width difference. A narrower front tire with a really wider rear tire is going to make the car prone to understeer and give you a less balanced but very xDrive-friendly setup. It's a tradeoff and it certainly could work, but the other options shouldn't cause issues with the transfer case/xDrive and will lead to better handling IMO.

One benefit of the narrower front tire is reduced steering effort and slightly more delicate steering feel although honestly this is less of a factor with cars running EPS like the G20 and more of a concern for older models with hydraulic power steering.

-Tom

[bimmerbeast1234]

Tom you are so incredibly knowledgeable, I could ask you questions all day long.

[1WickedE90]

Originally Posted by Expert@ApexRaceParts

No clearance issues with this setup. It was rub-free and we didn't note any witness marks on the tires or fender liners.

Sample wheel weights are not indicative of final production wheel weights. They should correlate quite closely but we will release the final weights after we've weighed a larger sample of production wheels. With that being said, the sample front wheel weighed 22.6 lbs while the rear was 23.2 lbs.

-Tom

Expert@ApexRaceParts Thanks, good to know. Will the wheels be offered in Race Silver & able to take the BMW standard center cap or self-levelling one?

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by 1WickedE90

Expert@ApexRaceParts Thanks, good to know. Will the wheels be offered in Race Silver & able to take the BMW standard center cap or self-levelling one?

The release finishes are Anthracite (pictured), Race Silver, and Satin Black. The wheels will be built to the OE BMW cap diameter and will be compatible with factory BMW caps or any other aftermarket caps built to BMW specs including the self-leveling variety.

-Tom

[Oxidgrey_bmw_g21]

Originally Posted by 1WickedE90

Nice set of wheels! Do the front wheels/tires clear the spring perch or does it rub under any conditions?

No rubbing at all.

[Banana Clipper]

Been waiting on those VS-5RS for like 18 months now. When I took my car to your facility I was told by EOY 2021 ... any idea when they will actually be available? Wanted to get a set for both mine and my wifes car but if my lease will end before you guys have these for sale then I'll find something else

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by Banana Clipper

Been waiting on those VS-5RS for like 18 months now. When I took my car to your facility I was told by EOY 2021 ... any idea when they will actually be available? Wanted to get a set for both mine and my wifes car but if my lease will end before you guys have these for sale then I'll find something else

I just spoke to Joe M who conducted your fitment test with the original Supra wheels. I don't think he promised G20 VS-5RS by end of 2021, but if he did or anyone else at APEX did then it wasn't correct and I apologize. I don't have an ETA on G20 VS-5RS wheels at the moment. They haven't gone through engineering/production approval yet and we are focused on launching the SM-10s for this chassis.

-Tom