[saudisinaudis]

As title says. I can’t tune the car since DME is locked and therefore I was told I can’t even use ethanol. Under these parameters, I don’t think I can run over Map 1. Therefore, how much HP total can I gain with the catless DP and otherwise stock build?

[G30M]

sell it and get a M4/M3/M5 CS

if you don't you will never be satisfied. tuning is a disease.

[saudisinaudis]

Originally Posted by g21

sell it and get a M4/M3/M5 CS

M3 / M4s sell for 130k+ here, while M440i was $98k (in US currency)

[G30M]

you will spend more money tuning, breaking, diagnosing, modifying, tuning, breaking, diagnosing, modifying -> it never stops

before you know it you spent >30k and still not happy.

my advise either be happy with the car or buy a M car.

but your life your money, do what you want.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by saudisinaudis

As title says. I can’t tune the car since DME is locked and therefore I was told I can’t even use ethanol. Under these parameters, I don’t think I can run over Map 1. Therefore, how much HP total can I gain with the catless DP and otherwise stock build?

i think MAP 1 not much gains, not sure if worth the hassle, best to modify to get better maps.

ask under tuning section

[mwinemil]

Originally Posted by g21

sell it and get a M4/M3/M5 CS

if you don't you will never be satisfied. tuning is a disease.

But you know...

You'll need to tune one of those too.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by mwinemil

But you know...

You'll need to tune one of those too.

you can spend 30k tuning the M440i and it will never be half the M3/M4 from the factory

the M cars are already been tuned by BMW

sure you can tune it more, but it's already tuned when you get it

[mwinemil]

Originally Posted by g21

you can spend 30k tuning the M440i and it will never be half the M3/M4 from the factory

the M cars are already been tuned by BMW

sure you can tune it more, but it's already tuned when you get it

Oh I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying, as someone that loves tuning cars, I imagine the day that I trade up to an M3 I will begin thinking about how I'm going to tune it.

The tuning bug is the tuning bug. Hell people tune the GT3.

[Panscan340]

Originally Posted by g21

you can spend 30k tuning the M440i and it will never be half the M3/M4 from the factory

the M cars are already been tuned by BMW

sure you can tune it more, but it's already tuned when you get it

Huh? Your points are nonsensical. Yes tuning a 340 or 440 doesn’t make it an m3 or m4. But if you can spend 1-2000 dollars for 50-80 horsepower , that’s a pretty decent ROI. Obviously that doesn’t change the suspension or brakes. No one needs to spend 30k and I agree spending 30k on a m sport car in upgrades is dumb . It’s prob dumb to spend 30k to upgrade an m3 as well but whatever makes someone happy I guess.

The M cars are just as tuneable or even more so than a 340 so idk what “ these cars are already tuned” means. By definition every car is already tuned. The s58s have as much or more headroom from stock than the b58s.

Ya these cars are already fast enough to get thrown in jail very quickly stock but you’re framing it in a pretty nonsensical way.

[Soslomode]

Thanks for that.. lol..I was going to reply to him and you saved me the key strokes. For the record there's nothing inherently special about an m3. Realize that for some people it's not a good fit. A lot of them are driven by stay at home moms who just went in and got the most expensive 3 series.