[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by solstice

I agree, there is no way you'll mistake this for a vanilla BMW. One of the most muscular and mean looking BMWs I've ever seen. I can't wait to get the process going to get one

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Agreed. I think the the F30 M-Sport and F8X were the first BMW 3's that I ever considered to look aggressive. I felt like the E46 and E9X were a bit soft from the front. The G8X takes it to another level.......another world......possibly Tatooine.

[///AVM]

As testament to BMWs barrage of 'spy shots' - and my ability to accept change - I have actually started to like the look of the camouflage exterior . . . that is some serious branding!

///AVM

[schnell325]

Originally Posted by Colinv6

What do we think the odds of more powerful manual versions appearing down the line are?

Could the M4CS follow the M2CS and offer 500+ hp with manual option?

Just tune it and you have what you’re asking for!

[Colinv6]

Originally Posted by schnell325

Just tune it and you have what you’re asking for!

With no warranty. I’m not a fan of aftermarket tuning personally. Rather just have what they give us in terms of power.

Suspension etc is different as it’s all bolt on bolt off. I’m not rich enough to handle an engine rebuild due to tuning.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by solstice

I agree, there is no way you’ll mistake this for a vanilla BMW. One of the most muscular and mean looking BMWs I’ve ever seen. I can’t wait to get the process going to get one

Definitely not.

I really don't like it in pictures - I do think it could have looked great if it matched the approximate size and shape of the CSL Concept car, and I am hoping that's what the G87 looks like.

Aka, if the revised grills were ~20% smaller, then the design change would have been more proportional to the rest of the car and "worked" in my opinion.

It will be interesting to see how it looks in the flesh.

[-EndOfAnEra-]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

As testament to BMWs barrage of 'spy shots' - and my ability to accept change - I have actually started to like the look of the camouflage exterior . . . that is some serious branding!

///AVM

Sounds like Stockholm syndrome! j/k

[Sim simma f80]

this shit is setup! how does a random render become a reality? BMW has been playing us this whole time.

with that said ill still buy one! lol

[JayFar]

Originally Posted by KINY3RA

EXACTLY! Were BMW designers supposed to remain stuck in the past? So much unnecessary hate and I'm willing to bet once a test drive's taken, the matter of looks will be secondary. I LOVE the look of this, it's refreshing to see difference and a distinct visual difference in terms of model hierarchy.

Ironic statements considering BMW stated they designed the remarkably huge grills to resemble the 1930s 328.

[scm6079]

I'm going to keep watching until official pics are released. I'm not a fan of what I'm seeing, but sometimes seeing the full package it has a different impact.

Coming from an E30, E42, E90, F80 owner that has been purchasing new BMWs regularly for more than 2 decades, this is the first new release I've been on the fence about. Between the looks and subscription talk, I think I may be moving on. I was even a supporter of moving from the V8 back to the I6 even with the mounds of crap I got in the forums for it!

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Agreed. I think the the F30 M-Sport and F8X were the first BMW 3's that I ever considered to look aggressive. I felt like the E46 and E9X were a bit soft from the front. The G8X takes it to another level.......another world......possibly Tatooine.

I agree. BMW since the E28 M5 has been a "wolf in sheep's cloth" type of sports sedan/car. Only the E30 M3 really looked very aggressive b/c it really was a purpose built race car. When I saw the F80, I knew I had to have one b/c BMW made it much more aggressive looking than the E9X it replaced, but not over the top aggressive like a Nissan GTR. It struck a good balance in performance, styling, and practicality. The G8X will at best hit 2 of those 3 criteria.

The G80 does look better than the G82 but the overall look to me falls inline with a Nissan GTR and that is probably why most of us have our doubts about its looks. But I know it will sell well if BMW incentivizes the crap out of these at 70%+ residuals since its like driving for free.

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by Miko M

They left it out for CS model

Here is a theory:

M starts to realize the base and competition are not worthy of the power dome after all...what's next can be the carbon roof, or maybe it's missing already...

The reservation of these two carbon piece is going to add significantly to the value proposition of the CS, with which they look pretty determined to ask 40-45% premium over the base.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Here is a theory:

M starts to realize the base and competition are not worthy of the power dome after all...what's next can be the carbon roof, or maybe it's missing already...

The reservation of these two carbon piece is going to add significantly to the value proposition of the CS, with which they look pretty determined to ask 40-45% premium over the base.

I think it'll likely have the CF roof. As for a power dome, if it's not necessary, it's not necessary. I don't feel like we need an arbitrary hood bump just because. This car has hood nostrils, and hood nostrils along with a power dome might not flow well together.

[Ilyam5]

I do not think it will grow on anyone. Ugly is ugly. We saw the first renders more than a year ago - it is still as ugly now - and not just the front

Grill dominates the whole car and you can’t stop looking at it - like an ugly wound
Rear udders continue the m2 tradition of huge mufflers
No manual handbrake dictates electric button and no proper rear brakes- bad for track
Auto gear box -potential to overheat at track
Awd transfer case - potential to overheat at track
Ugly asymmetric radar sensors and no place for license plate for usa market

Manual car will miss on all the electric assist features and be less powerful
Acc
Lane departure
Autonomous driving
Self parking
Self back up

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by scm6079

I'm going to keep watching until official pics are released. I'm not a fan of what I'm seeing, but sometimes seeing the full package it has a different impact.

Coming from an E30, E42, E90, F80 owner that has been purchasing new BMWs regularly for more than 2 decades, this is the first new release I've been on the fence about. Between the looks and subscription talk, I think I may be moving on. I was even a supporter of moving from the V8 back to the I6 even with the mounds of crap I got in the forums for it!

What is the subscription talk about?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by RPM33

What is the subscription talk about?

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=26386706

[Ferg]

Originally Posted by 2000Z3M

No wide rear fenders for the M4? And still no hofmeister kink :/

ETA: This is looking as lame as the E36 M3 when compared to the 328.

The wide fenders is an issue with me as well.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by frank.m2

They aren't 666Ms. The pattern is different and seems to more concaved.

pattern looks identical to me. A friend of mine has his 666M's powder coated black and that exactly what they look like.

Typically, not always, on test mules they do NOT give away the wheel design.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

pattern looks identical to me. A friend of mine has his 666M's powder coated black and that exactly what they look like.

Typically, not always, on test mules they do NOT give away the wheel design.

Get better eyes. ...and most test mules have the actual production wheels, just usually all black.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Get better eyes. ...and most test mules have the actual production wheels, just usually all black.

Damnnnnn.

Looks like a straight up 50/50 mix between the M8 Comp wheels and the 666M.

I will miss my CS wheels if these are the only options (but I get to avail myself of the best grilles ever designed so who I am to complain?).

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Get better eyes. ...and most test mules have the actual production wheels, just usually all black.

On another note, I am shocked a man of your stature in this community has sprint cell service!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

On another note, I am shocked a man of your stature in this community has sprint cell service!

Well, there are a multitude of reasons for that:

1) I am on employee rate plan that is dramatically low with unlimited everything (...$50-ish a month AFTER taxes ).

2) I've been with them since 1999.

3) Sprint just recently merged with T-Mobile, so the network just improved substantially. It was immediately noticeable when I was in a canyon the other day. Previously I had no service, but now I get service.


Where I am in SoCal, Sprint hasn't ever really been an issue for me. Elsewhere in the U.S. may be different though.

[Beemerm3]

My f80 felt like it just drop 10 gs in depreciation. Haha so sad.