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      12-14-2023, 08:09 PM   #67
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I have to disagree. A 3200lb car will always feel way more nimble than a 3950lb car. The G80 is a cruiser. Nothing wrong with that, but its weight it very noticable.
Hey, mine is only 3780 lbs! Ha. But I feel it compared to the Z4. More effort in braking, less agility, and especially can feel the mass in downhill curves. I think it’s 250 lbs heavier than the Z4. It feels noticeably lighter than my comp x did at close to 3950 lbs.

3000-3200 lbs is a much different experience.
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      12-15-2023, 04:15 PM   #68
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Hey, mine is only 3780 lbs! Ha. But I feel it compared to the Z4. More effort in braking, less agility, and especially can feel the mass in downhill curves. I think itÂ’s 250 lbs heavier than the Z4. It feels noticeably lighter than my comp x did at close to 3950 lbs.

3000-3200 lbs is a much different experience.
This is why I'm interested to see how much lighter the M3 feels vs the M5. I'm sure it will still feel significantly heavier than the GT3 and GT4 because it is.
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      12-15-2023, 04:18 PM   #69
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This is why I'm interested to see how much lighter the M3 feels vs the M5. I'm sure it will still feel significantly heavier than the GT3 and GT4 because it is.
My first BMW was a 320. My second was a 340. I could immediately feel the weight difference of the 6-cyl over the nose of the 340.
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      12-16-2023, 08:53 AM   #70
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This is why I'm interested to see how much lighter the M3 feels vs the M5. I'm sure it will still feel significantly heavier than the GT3 and GT4 because it is.
I imagine you'll immediately feel the difference between the m3 and m5. If you got bored with the m5 as a daily, and don't mind giving up on the luxury, and smoother ride, the m3 is more fun to drive...to me.

With that said, in 2024 I'll be looking at getting into an lci m3 or the new m5. Will certainly drive both, but at this point I don't know which way I'd go. Sometimes, I think man I miss the comforts of the m5. But once I step into the m3, I always go back to wow this is def more fun.

Personally, I don't think the m3 is a very comfortable daily, as compared to the m5. I love it, but you definitely give up something in convenience and comfort moving to the m3. You do gain the fun factor though. 🤷‍♂️
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I imagine you'll immediately feel the difference between the m3 and m5. If you got bored with the m5 as a daily, and don't mind giving up on the luxury, and smoother ride, the m3 is more fun to drive...to me.

With that said, in 2024 I'll be looking at getting into an lci m3 or the new m5. Will certainly drive both, but at this point I don't know which way I'd go. Sometimes, I think man I miss the comforts of the m5. But once I step into the m3, I always go back to wow this is def more fun.

Personally, I don't think the m3 is a very comfortable daily, as compared to the m5. I love it, but you definitely give up something in convenience and comfort moving to the m3. You do gain the fun factor though. 🤷‍♂️
I totally agree. The M3 is more fun than the M5 but it’s also definitely harsher on my back. I have a weekend toy for punishing my back even further. I’m already thinking of using my wife’s Macan GTS as my DD and buying something else for her to drive. The M3CX is still exciting to keep around for a few more years!
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      12-17-2023, 05:06 PM   #72
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I totally agree. The M3 is more fun than the M5 but itÂ’s also definitely harsher on my back. I have a weekend toy for punishing my back even further. IÂ’m already thinking of using my wifeÂ’s Macan GTS as my DD and buying something else for her to drive. The M3CX is still exciting to keep around for a few more years!
Not really worried about my back given I've DDed 911s before. I am curious whether I'll be bothered by the loss of ~100hp but with the drop in weight I might not notice.
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      12-17-2023, 05:27 PM   #73
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I dunno. I have both an F90 and G80. They both have their strengths. My F90 is my daily. It's great for my commute (all 11 miles of it into and out of NYC everyday) -- it's fast and comfortable. It goes whenever you want. Super reliable. I thought (stupidly) that as soon as I got my G80, I'd easily be able to get rid of the F90 as my f80 was missing the AWD I craved and the driver asst I love in the M5.

However, the F90 is just so engaging and well controlled, even for how big it is. It's ALWAYS fast, at every point in any gear. The G80, while nimble and "quick" is nowhere near as fast at any point, and it's kinda discouraging knowing it's significantly lighter. I'd strike a bunch of weight from mine (titanium exhaust, lw wheels, ceramics) - hopefully a tune will change my mind.
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      12-17-2023, 05:54 PM   #74
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Good points there. Having both is certainly a good solution.

I should’ve mentioned my f90 was full bolt on and my g80 is lightly modded with racechip and xhp. If you keep your cars stock, my comments may not be applicable. Apologies there.

The driving experience of a stock g80 vs even a lightly modded one are quite different. Same of course for the f90 and, well, any ride.
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