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I feel like I live in a different universe - when I replaced my F31 with the Model 3, my premium went down by about 10%.
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10% off insurance premium (~$20 a month..?) isn’t really a material savings in the grand scheme of when leasing/financing a new Tesla or BMW. If that savings makes or breaks your purchase/lease decision, you’re liking considering other brands.
Additionally, not having my car for a year means I’m throwing away money for what... a loaner of a much less caliber? Glad I saw this article because I would never consider a Tesla until I know they can get to a reasonable repair window. Far less concerned about me being at fault compared to all the idiots on the road! |
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My comment was directed at those who would spread FUD regarding Tesla in general. No, insurance premiums for Teslas are NOT generally higher than other premium-branded cars. As with most consumer products, it pays to shop around. My premiums are essentially unchanged for my Model 3 Performance compared to the 2 cars of similar value that I previously drove.
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Not sure where you are getting your information, but the Model 3 actually handles very well for the class (if you were to lump it into the luxury/sport compact class). I tested a Model 3 Performance, and it felt sharper than my old M340i xDrive (the rear drive M340i may be a better competitor).
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It would be interesting to see how they do in that class.
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Didn't expect this thread to be resurrected.
I've driven the Model 3 performance. It performs incredibly and leaves the m340i in the dust. That being said, my experience with it left me feeling empty. Aside from the cool party trick of instant torque, it was one of the most emotionless driving experiences I've ever had from a high performance car. I've said it before and I'll say it again - the current trend towards spreadsheet cars means automakers are targeting performance at the EXPENSE of what driving is actually supposed to be - fun. I haven't yet had the opportunity to drive a Taycan, so I can't say for sure if the lack of emotion was a Tesla issue or just a general EV issue. I REALLY hope it isn't a general EV issue, because if it is, then I'm screwed.
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Having spent 3 months and multiple test drives in consideration of the Model 3, I cannot fathom any true BMW driver, enthusiast, loyalist being happy with the Model 3 over a 3 series. I say this as a person who has driven BMW 3 and 4 series since the 1990’s and I’m driving my 9th BMW.
I really wanted to like it, I really did. I actually like they exterior stying of the Model 3 (even though it looks somewhat like a typical Japanese production car). It has some cool tech and a futuristic cockpit with the glass roof and minimalistic interior. But the car utterly lacks any sort of driving personality. It’s an electric go cart feel. Sure, instant power is fun, but there is no character or feel to the car and handling feels sloppy for a luxury car. There’s nothing sporty about the way it drives other than the instant power. The regenerative breaking is annoying at first and takes some getting used to. And the tech, while cool that your car basically updates itself with constant software updates and unlocking of features, is still so simple it’s annoying. It lacks a lot of useful features to achieve its “modern” design...you get basically a steering wheel and an iPad. It’s a distraction to do even the most basic things, like directing your air vents, or wiper speed, etc. The interior lighting at night consists of a dim white footwell light if you get the more expensive model. They finally just updated the trunk to a power close in 2021. There are just so many features, like heads up display, etc. that you’d expect in a car that costs >$50k that the Model 3 just doesn’t or may never have. The only thing that that I liked about driving it was the ease of switching into autonomous driving by double-clicking the wheel stock. I suspect this will become a standard feature on all new luxury cars over the next 5-10 years. In my opinion, no one who truly loves driving and has spent any real time behind the wheel of a BMW will be satisfied with the Tesla Model 3. The model 3 is for people who view driving as just transportation. The people who love it are usually people coming from lesser brands and not typically “car people.” Add to that, the extra cost and hassle of the charging install to make it practical at home, planned stops for longer trips and all the after market crap u have purchase, I don’t see how any seasoned BMW driver will be satisfied with this car. Maybe the S or X models, but the Model 3 is just a gadget/toy that after the novelty wears off would be a regretful alternative to a new 3 or 4 series BMW. That’s my honest opinion but obviously there are many others who completely disagree. Last edited by Smiller155; 03-19-2021 at 10:03 AM.. |
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I agree with your thoughts. One thing that you forgot to mention is a lot of model 3 drivers I think are buying them to be part of the "in crowd" or cool. As many have stated, I think the initial novelty of super quick acceleration will wear off quickly, not to mention you aren't going to practically be able to use that straight line speed regularly, not to mention you'll probably make your passengers either sick or annoyed.
For a very brief moment I gave consideration to the model 3 performance spec but soon realized I'd get bored with it. I want to hear the engine and "feel" the car. ALSO, there are simply way too many of these driving around no matter where you are. They're becoming like Toyota Corollas. |
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