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Also if Teslas are great, why do they only sell a handful outside the US, where you'd think demand would be insatiable given that fuel prices are unrecognisably higher? |
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11-01-2018, 09:34 AM | #47 | |
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I am just touting the benefits & power and simplicity of that electric engine but I could care less that electricity is used instead of petrol if it were true that the electricity that powered Teslas came from clean sources like solar/wind/wave then I'd be all for it but.. no.. most of it comes from oil/gas/coal so we are simply converting fossil fuels into electricity where the conversion is inefficient and wasteful then allowing alot of it to waste in electrical resistance thru long dist ance transport wires hardly clean.. mostly wasteful.. but the oil/gas conglomerates love that.. and the fckin Saudis |
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11-01-2018, 10:44 AM | #49 |
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Anyone that compares Tesla to BMW, please tell me what your smoking, I’ll DM you my address because I want some. I applaud what Tesla is doing and they deserve credit, but come on.
Yes, BMW is lagging behind in terms of EV development right now. Yes, the i3 is an unattractive car for the middle school teacher that still wears Vineyard Vines sweaters and thinks their job matters. But give them time they will figure it out. With the Porsche Taycan around the corner I guarantee their working on something very competitive right now. |
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11-01-2018, 12:21 PM | #50 | |
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Actually you can’t be, schoolteachers in Britain aren’t paid enough to buy and run an i3 unless they’re Head Of This new Model 3 is the future, in at least one respect. Let me go and try one. Oh it appears they’re not actually on sale here, or indeed, anywhere else in the world. Like the forum as a whole, perhaps the future should also be segregated by country? |
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11-01-2018, 12:39 PM | #52 |
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11-01-2018, 02:36 PM | #55 |
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Until it goes flat. Teslas round here get driven very gingerly because there's hardly anywhere to charge them
Also not everyone does FIGJAM, even if it is G. I do like the looks, though - smoother lines than the angular and overly styled G20, if the shots of the M Sport variant are anything to go by. |
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11-01-2018, 03:04 PM | #56 |
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I'm sure a lot of M owners appreciate they can go for a full race day and be able to drive home after immediately if needed. all I can think of is putting a beating on those batteries using ludicrous mode and going around a track week in and week out (if you're an avid track person) and eventually pieces of your shitty built tesla start flying all over the track and the batteries go to shit and then you can't even drive home because you're waiting for a 4 hour charge. lol. I'm pretty sure tesla can't even do a full nurburg lap without something exploding or overheating or something going wrong. I saw somewhere it just shat itself half way around multiple tracks. bmw will be just fine and 99% of these people on the forums couldn't care less about what tesla is or isn't doing and what bmw is or isn't doing about tesla. such as myself.
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11-01-2018, 05:46 PM | #57 |
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I want to personally thank everyone driving a Tesla and buying them
It leaves more gasoline for me to watse 😁 |
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11-01-2018, 06:40 PM | #58 |
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I actually don't hate Tesla. I don't have strong feelings about them either way. If someone buys one and enjoys it, that's great for them. Who am I to piss on their parade.
What I don't quite understand is why they feel the need to post on a bmw forum, about the reasons they believe their car is superior. I'm not referring to the author of this thread either. That person was clearly just trolling. There have been, however, several long standing, literate members who start threads just to rave about Tesla, and then tend to get defensive when someone challenges their assertions. What do you expect? This is, after all, a bmw forum. Many of us here drive and enjoy our bmws, and we log on here to read about bmws. Just because you've moved on to something else doesn't mean that we're all ready to. When I want to inform myself about Tesla models, I'll go to the appropriate source, which isn't a bmw site. Now, of course I expect to read reviews and opinions about other brands of cars here. Most of us aren't limited to driving only bmw models, nor are we necessarily married to the brand. Some comparisons of how bmw stacks up to the competition keeps things interesting. I don't, however, want to log on here and read a litany of threads extolling the many virtues of Tesla, and then slog through all of the back and forth nonsense that invariably follows. |
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11-01-2018, 06:47 PM | #59 | |
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Easily the most annoying group of car owners ever, and I generally suspect most of them have never been into cars and are a horde of former steve job acolytes who needed a new person to worship. I even care about the environment. I'm the type of person who is like yeah a 330i/e vs a m3 well i'd rather not waste gas / foul up the air more than I need to and I actually care. But I'm 100% hoping Tesla fails just to see them all stfu. Now that most of the other manufacturers have cars in production / going to be in production, well it won't be a big loss. |
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Here I was thinking that losing a manual transmission was catastrophic and this thread has me now thinking how much worse driving will get in time. A silent, electric car that most likely will drive itself. What a sad day that will be for enthusiasts.
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11-02-2018, 02:47 PM | #64 |
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When Tesla demonstrates they can build a vehicle with world class tolerances, superb interior design and quality of materials, commensurate to the asking price, we'll talk.
The day when you can fully recharge a Tesla/EV in what it takes to fill up a 16-17 US gallon fuel tank (Read: under 5 minutes), we'll talk. When the prima Donna, narcissistic/Attention seeking Tesla CEO steps down or gets booted by the board or directors and investors, we'll talk. When maintaining an out of warranty Tesla doesn't become an exercise in futility and dealing with proprietary repairs, sourcing of parts and service (Read: only Tesla service centers can fix your car) we'll talk. When Tesla gets their act together with quality of service and repairs at their so call proprietary service centers, we'll talk. When the battery packs of a Tesla doesn't pose a danger to occupants and rescue crews in the aftermath of an accident, we'll talk. Remember, Tesla's are proprietary money pits out of warranty and no one can fix them even if they wanted to outside of the official repair channels. Don't believe? Take a look and subscribe to YouTube channel "Rich Rebuilds" to see the hell that entails to service, repair and maintain a Tesla out of warranty and manufacturer support. An eye opener!.
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11-02-2018, 03:10 PM | #65 |
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Model S is a nice car but what I don't like is the Tesla guys calling the Model 3 as M3. Dude, It's no M3.
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No, if I'm a troll I would post this in Tesla's forum not here. I like BMW but I'm getting more and more disappointed for BMW not moving fast for hybrid and electric. Mercedes and Audi have released 48v hybrid system but I haven't seen BMW's investment on this, also Audi has opened pre-order for e-tron ahead of iX3. The thing I'm worrying about is, would BMW even survive after Tesla starts operating factory in Shanghai and releasing model Y?
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