[The1]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Haha... I cringed when I saw that Tiffen filter on his lens. But, I refrained from saying anything.

you should read the link Leemik posted up. very informative.

[Chewy734]

Originally Posted by The1

you should read the link Leemik posted up. very informative.

I read it. Here's the thing, I agree you can't discount all Tiffens, Hoyas, etc. Their upper echelon filters are pretty good.

That being said, my first filter set were Tiffens. After purchasing my B+Ws, I see a noticeable improvement in IQ. Whether that shows up simply as % transmission or not, I can't say, but the overall IQ is better.

I personally think there is a reason why most pros choose B+W, Heliopan, Singh-Ray, etc filters over other brands. This isn't like a comparison between Monster cables vs. Monoprice cables, imo.

[The1]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

I read it. Here's the thing, I agree you can't discount all Tiffens, Hoyas, etc. Their upper echelon filters are pretty good.

That being said, my first filter set were Tiffens. After purchasing my B+Ws, I see a noticeable improvement in IQ. Whether that shows up simply as % transmission or not, I can't say, but the overall IQ is better.

I personally think there is a reason why most pros choose B+W, Heliopan, Singh-Ray, etc filters over other brands. This isn't like a comparison between Monster cables vs. Monoprice cables, imo.

I agree, most of mine are the B+W, however, i still take them off when i shoot about 50% of the time now, unless i'm shooting around my girlfriend on her horse, a lot of dust gets kicked up, so i'd just rather keep the lens clean.

It definitely comes down to the old argument, you paid 1500 for a lens, why make it worse?

Or

you paid 1500 for a lens, why not protect it?

Unfortunatly, i sit on the fence on this one, I both like the idea of protecting my lens, but i also like allowing my lens to do it's job.

I think Canon, or someone else, needs to come up with a filter that is a quick disconnect like the lens cap, so it can be quickly removed, but that would be over complicated.

[Chewy734]

Well, a CP has more functionality than just protecting a lens. But yes, some filters are there just to provide a barrier between the pavement and your glass just incase an accident occurs.

[The1]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Well, a CP has more functionality than just protecting a lens. But yes, some filters are there just to provide a barrier between the pavement and your glass just incase an accident occurs.

I've seen the revers situation occur. My buddy was changing his lens, and he thought he had his neck strap on, so he just let go of his camera body and he fell.

still worked after. We had a good laugh about it. First thing he said though, "glad it wasn't the lens!!!"

[Chewy734]

yeah... close call! He got lucky.

[leemik]

honestly.. I *do* have a B+W filter on it.. and all my filters are B+W..

the lens was purchased with the tiffen when the picture was taken... I didnlt say there's a B+W on there now because I just don't like the attitude over there.. it's akin to someone here buying VMR rep rims here and saying damn you got a 50K 3-series but but VMR's on? WTF, you ruined the car.. now that's stupid.

If I took two pictures with a tripod of the same thing, same settings only difference was to put a B+W filter vs. Tiffen or none or _insert brand_ and said pick the one that you like best.. No one will be able to tell me which was which.. or if there is even any difference in the pics at all!

I'm willing to bet money on that.

[The1]

Originally Posted by leemik

honestly.. I *do* have a B+W filter on it.. and all my filters are B+W..

the lens was purchased with the tiffen when the picture was taken... I didnlt say there's a B+W on there now because I just don't like the attitude over there.. it's akin to someone here buying VMR rep rims here and saying damn you got a 50K 3-series but but VMR's on? WTF, you ruined the car.. now that's stupid.

If I took two pictures with a tripod of the same thing, same settings only difference was to put a B+W filter vs. Tiffen or none or _insert brand_ and said pick the one that you like best.. No one will be able to tell me which was which.. or if there is even any difference in the pics at all!

I'm willing to bet money on that.

DO IT

All i know is all my L series lenses work better then anything else i've had, UV protector or not.

only time i've ever noticed the protector as an issue is taking a picture of the moon, then i took it off and took another shot.

[leemik]

Originally Posted by The1

I think Canon, or someone else, needs to come up with a filter that is a quick disconnect like the lens cap, so it can be quickly removed, but that would be over complicated.

well they make these lens cap leashes that are pretty handy.. i have a few of these..

http://www.adorama.com/LNCL2.html

sory about the "house brand".. these are probably inferior to B+W lens cap leashes =P or you could probably DIY..

[The1]

Originally Posted by leemik

well they make these lens cap leashes that are pretty handy.. i have a few of these..

http://www.adorama.com/LNCL2.html

sory about the "house brand".. these are probably inferior to B+W lens cap leashes =P or you could probably DIY..

I mean for a filter.

I actually need some leashes, but, where are you supposed to attach your leash to if you're always changing your lenses?

[leemik]

Most of the lenses I have and use most often are 77mm.. so I just use the 77mm cap.. I think they make ones that stick to the lens too..

Originally Posted by The1

DO IT

I'll try it this weekend.. take 3 pics indoors.. 3 pics outdoors.. tiffen, B+W, none.. ask everyone to pick the best looking one.. but I may trick ppl though and post 3 the same pictures to see if there's a placebo effect lulz..

I'll post it on POTN.. under "Anyone see any differences here?" not even post reasons why.. haha

[The1]

Originally Posted by leemik

Most of the lenses I have and use most often are 77mm.. so I just use the 77mm cap.. I think they make ones that stick to the lens too..



I'll try it this weekend.. take 3 pics indoors.. 3 pics outdoors.. tiffen, B+W, none.. ask everyone to pick the best looking one.. but I may trick ppl though and post 3 the same pictures to see if there's a placebo effect lulz..

I'll post it on POTN.. under "Anyone see any differences here?" not even post reasons why.. haha

I like this plan.

nobody is even going to notice (if it's possible) the difference it makes if they print a normal sized photo from it.

if you're printing a billboard, then yes, i can see there being a difference possible. But then you'd likely be using a medium format camera instead.

[leemik]

I was just thinking about the lens cap leash thing.. It just dawned on me that the design is VERY similar to the Wii wrist strap

i bet you could just use a Wii wrist strap .. tighten it around the lens barrel and somehow velcro a lens cap to end of it.. would be an awesome "free" solution if you have a Wii

[The1]

gave my wii to my girlfriend

but you're right, very similar!

[bosstones]

Originally Posted by leemik

Most of the lenses I have and use most often are 77mm.. so I just use the 77mm cap.. I think they make ones that stick to the lens too..



I'll try it this weekend.. take 3 pics indoors.. 3 pics outdoors.. tiffen, B+W, none.. ask everyone to pick the best looking one.. but I may trick ppl though and post 3 the same pictures to see if there's a placebo effect lulz..

I'll post it on POTN.. under "Anyone see any differences here?" not even post reasons why.. haha

Ha! I like it. I have a mix of Hoya and B+W filters (and one Calumet that I got for free w/ my 10-22mm). I'll do the same w/ those.

I have UV filters on all my lenses...mainly as protection. I don't care so much that I would argue over IQ over it. I think leemik's point (and forthcoming experiment) is spot on anyways. The glass you shoot with is likely to make more of a difference.

[johnnymu]

Shot this with a 7d

[Chewy734]

^ mother of god...

can I have one?

[johnnymu]

I only own 7d and 1ds iii. The others belong to friends. I just thought it was a cool shot.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

I only own 7d and 1ds iii. The others belong to friends. I just thought it was a cool shot.

"Only?" That's like saying I "only" own a Ferrari and a Lambo. And here I was just psyched that I finally got to order my 35mm f2.

BTW, the reflective table top is cool. Was any of that post processing?

[UdubBadger]

nice

[johnnymu]

Sorry bro, I didn't mean it in that tone. Camera and lenses don't make the photographer, its their vision and imagination that does.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

Sorry bro, I didn't mean it in that tone. Camera and lenses don't make the photographer, its their vision and imagination that does.

Just messing with you and displaying my envy.

So about the table top...