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      06-20-2023, 08:53 PM   #23
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Thanks for this. I’m actually stuck at the Act 2 Astaroth and am lvl 24 but I’m too old and don’t have enough time to really look into builds to fight bosses. Waited 11 years for D4 only to have no time to play it, feelsbadman
I've got my main sorcerer at 47 (non hardcore) and then a 35 Necromancer, 30 Barbarian, and 30 Sorcerer all on Hardcore mode. If you're moderately decent at gaming in general you can bump the world tier up to level 2 and still be fine but gain far more XP for leveling.
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      06-20-2023, 08:57 PM   #24
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It's America everybody buys thing they can't afford.
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Thanks for this. I’m actually stuck at the Act 2 Astaroth and am lvl 24 but I’m too old and don’t have enough time to really look into builds to fight bosses. Waited 11 years for D4 only to have no time to play it, feelsbadman
Check out maxroll for easy build guides.
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So you’d have to make $29k a month to afford maybe a $1200-1500 car payment ?….
Kids are expensive bruh.. plus saving for college, travel soccer, and concert choir. Not to mention the private training sessions and academic tutoring…
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      06-20-2023, 09:00 PM   #27
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D2 > D1 > D4 > forced, unwilling castration > D3

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A bank approval is all you need, right? Let’s get that credit app…!!!

J/K, this is a very loaded question and depends on expenses, not just salary.
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It's America everybody buys thing they can't afford.
+1 to this.

I bought my first new car when it literally cost 2x my gross salary. Still was able to make it work, though I didn't really have anything left over for saving and investing, which I regret now.

I bought my M4 and it cost < 50% of my gross now. I'd imagine for others here it ranges from 20% - 60$ so I'm probably smack dab in the middle of the range.
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I live in a van down by the river! That’s one option.
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Do the math (and this is relative to where people live and their 'lifestyle,' I suppose):

Salary (or other source of income) - 401K plan (if participating) - health insurance (unless free) - Mortgage (unless you rent, then, rent) - Electric - Water - Cable/Internet, Food/Groceries - Entertainment - Cash Savings (if at all possible (might yield 3-5% Interest)) - Investments (IRA/Roth IRA, Etc.) - Yard Maintenance (if any) - Car Insurance - Gas - Car Payment(s) (if M3 will be the sole car, then remove from equation till later) - everything else (gym/club memberships, tv subscriptions, cigars, etc.). What you're left with is $X.00 per month (usually 2 pay cycles 15th/30th or Biweekly (2 months in a year with 3 checks)).

If 'X' is equal to (or greater than) the M3 payment (depending on M3 MSRP + how much you can put down + taxes + dealer fees - trade (if any (if none, taxes will be higher)), you can afford it. If X is not, then don't cut corners to afford it. Just word to the wise, as it is a depreciating liability.

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"The only reason a great many American families don't own an elephant is that they have never been offered an elephant for a dollar down and easy weekly payments." (Alfred E. Newman)
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You can spend between 10-35% of your annual income on a car according to this:
https://www.moneyunder30.com/how-muc...can-you-afford

I like the 10% rule as it includes more scenarios. Basically you should only spend 10% of your monthly gross on transportation including maintenance, fuel, insurance, etc.
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Wife keeps slapping me on the head and says 'you're retired...you're not unemployed'.
My wife says the same.
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      06-21-2023, 06:57 AM   #37
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Wife keeps slapping me on the head and says 'you're retired...you're not unemployed'.
That’s why I keep forgetting, I don’t have a wife to slap my head.
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Just have your Dad pay for it.
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Cooldown build works too. Spec all cooldowns + ice blades and rotate them while running away.

It's a bit nerfed compared to the beta apparently but still works pretty well.

5 pts in Arc Lash + Glinting + Enhanced

Skip down to Ice shield and put 5 into that + enhanced + mystical

2-3 into flame shield + enhanced + shimmering (MUST have if you're on hardcore mode)

3/3 elemental attunement + glass cannon (9 and 3 oclock on the defensive)

1/5 teleport + enhanced + shimmering

next tier, grab 5/5 ice blades + enhanced + summoned

then on the same tier grab 1/3 Align the elements + 3/3 Protection

on to Mastery, grab 3/3 Icy Veil, Static Discharge, and Shocking Impact

Ultimate tier grab Inferno and then Coursing Currents / Electrocution.

Everything else, grab whatever you want, but the main skills to rotate are:

Left Mouse: Arc Lash
Right Mouse: Ice Blades
1: Flame Shield
2: Ice Armor
3: Inferno
4: Teleport

Passive 1: Ice Blades
Passive 2: Flame Shield

This should basically let you face tank most minor bosses, run around anything else, and just keep burning cooldowns / stuns / crits that reset your shields / constant shield barrier till everything around you is dead.

It's not the fastest, but it's very survivable.

edit: the way it works is by constantly spawning ice blades after you've stacked 40s worth of cooldowns....which means you can get 4-5 ice blades going at once when your crits proc. And since enemies can't defend against them...and the blades make enemies vulnerable...which leads to more crits....which leads to resetting your shields / armor / teleport...which leads to more cooldowns...which leads to more blades....you get the idea.

Absolutely need to have ice blades on passive though. Flame shield is optional for the 2nd passive especially if you're not playing on hardcore mode. On HC it's saved my bacon a few times though so I highly recommend it. Sometimes you need a couple extra seconds till the next cooldown is available.
I'm incredibly lost (paragon stuff, crafting, rolls ect) in the game and currently at level 51 with my Rouge. Just started Act 4 (I believe), which ever act you get the mount for the horse. I wish I had more time to play, unfortunately, I don't.
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Does living in parent's basement get counted?
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      06-21-2023, 08:19 AM   #42
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Does living in parent's basement get counted?
As long as it’s a real basement and not a crawl space. That would be weird.
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      06-21-2023, 08:56 AM   #43
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      06-21-2023, 09:23 AM   #44
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Well. Let’s see. M4 costs around 200 grand in my country. Plus, Have to pay 5 grand a year for the insurance and another 5 grand for the car’s tax yearly. Don’t forget the poor gas milage, too. So, you have to be at least a manager/restaurant owner/have rich parents/inheritance…something like that
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