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      01-18-2022, 07:28 PM   #155
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You’re kidding. 8 seconds??
Yes. Mike Botti's A91 supra is running 8.3 right now.
Do you know what the mods were??
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Do you know what the mods were??
Here's a full video breakdown of the A91:





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      01-18-2022, 08:05 PM   #157
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Not True...If you use the cloning process, they clone the ecu to a pre 06/2020 ecu. This means if for some reason the dealer did lock it, you could have anyone that can do a bench unlock reunlock it just as the pre 06/2020 owners already can do.
Sure, but there’s additional cost in that. Plus we know BMW is already working on patching these with possibly an ota update.
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Plus we know BMW is already working on patching these with possibly an ota update.
Turn them off..
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      01-19-2022, 03:57 AM   #159
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Sure, but there’s additional cost in that. Plus we know BMW is already working on patching these with possibly an ota update.
Funny stuff is going on here😂
Looks like here is a biggest Mission to Perform trolling of others work😂
Hope MP will not only push trolls here but will show some real work on newest ECUs. Video without even starting engine looks like kind of ECU “swap” from beginning for me.Mostly everyone who have “bench” tools,old ECU,can make it show “1000hp” with “1000nm” without starting engine itself.
In other hand I can see every day a lot of cars in world who is running Unlock from Femto.
Hope things come more clear to everyone if you will just think about it.
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      01-19-2022, 06:36 AM   #160
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Funny stuff is going on here😂
Looks like here is a biggest Mission to Perform trolling of others work😂
Hope MP will not only push trolls here but will show some real work on newest ECUs. Video without even starting engine looks like kind of ECU “swap” from beginning for me.Mostly everyone who have “bench” tools,old ECU,can make it show “1000hp” with “1000nm” without starting engine itself.
In other hand I can see every day a lot of cars in world who is running Unlock from Femto.
Hope things come more clear to everyone if you will just think about it.
The funny stuff is FEMTO now taking a similar position to MP. Trolls? Lol maybe like someone who joined in 2013 but only has 19 posts. Trolls like to hide behind sub accounts.
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Bootmod3 just added support for vehicles unlocked with Femto with a production date after July 2020.
Bad news is you still first need to ship
the DME overseas to unlock.
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Bootmod3 just added support for vehicles unlocked with Femto with a production date after July 2020.
Bad news is you still first need to ship
the DME overseas to unlock.
Damn goooooood news. I think we will get there soon with the Odb. I may send my ecu out during spring break.
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      01-22-2022, 10:19 PM   #163
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You could pay $3k, send your ecu to Russia, which is a risk in itself shipping overseas, then have it re-locked again by an ota update or dealer who doesn’t listen and updates your car anyway.
Dude, where you get this prices ?
Few days ago i talk with femto, price for unlock 650-750 Euro. + 100$ delivery. Idk where you hear that mad prices.
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Dude, where you get this prices ?
Few days ago i talk with femto, price for unlock 650-750 Euro. + 100$ delivery. Idk where you hear that mad prices.
That’s just to unlock. You still have to pay for the tune.
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Dude, where you get this prices ?
Few days ago i talk with femto, price for unlock 650-750 Euro. + 100$ delivery. Idk where you hear that mad prices.
$2995 for a clone to a pre 06/2020 ecu. 650 euro for the post 06/2020+ ecu bench unlock. Those are completely different things. If the dealer updates your ecu firmware after you do the 650 euro bench unlock, you'll have to send it back to them again. Versus the pre 06/2020 ecu you can unlock it again in the US.
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That’s just to unlock. You still have to pay for the tune.
Jesus! Better i unlock for 750 euros & use MHD/JB4
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$2995 for a clone to a pre 06/2020 ecu. 650 euro for the post 06/2020+ ecu bench unlock. Those are completely different things. If the dealer updates your ecu firmware after you do the 650 euro bench unlock, you'll have to send it back to them again. Versus the pre 06/2020 ecu you can unlock it again in the US.
Oh, idk about difference.
I thought you pay anyway 650/750 EUR & thats enough.
So, if i right understand, my car with gen 2 engine & 2021 year of production need unlock for 650 euros, right ?
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Oh, idk about difference.
I thought you pay anyway 650/750 EUR & thats enough.
So, if i right understand, my car with gen 2 engine & 2021 year of production need unlock for 650 euros, right ?
I think you're confusing the two ecus. Pre 06/2020 ECU's are non bosch and can get be unlocked right now using just a bench unlock. A lot of shops in the US can do this unlock. I have 4-5 local shops that can do this unlock. Post 06/2020 ecu's are bosch ecu's which are fully locked. For 650 euros you can send your bosch ecu to Femto in Russia and they can do a bench unlock. They are the ONLY people right now that can bench unlock a post 06/2020 ecu. For $2995 they will clone your post 06/2020 ecu to a pre 06/2020 ecu. The difference here is, if you go into the dealer and they do a software update, the ECU is now LOCKED again. So you have to send your ecu back to Russia to be unlocked once again. However, if you have a pre 06/2020 ecu or a cloned to pre 06/2020 ecu, you can take it to local shops in the US that can do an unlock or ship it to kiesmotorsports in NJ and they do like 2 day turnaround for unlocks. Hope this helps.
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Jesus! Better i unlock for 750 euros & use MHD/JB4
You don’t need to unlock to use a piggy back like JB4.
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$2995 for a clone to a pre 06/2020 ecu. 650 euro for the post 06/2020+ ecu bench unlock. Those are completely different things. If the dealer updates your ecu firmware after you do the 650 euro bench unlock, you'll have to send it back to them again. Versus the pre 06/2020 ecu you can unlock it again in the US.
To be clear, this isn't FEMTO's pricing.

B58 and S58 have different pricing + both have options for keep remote start enabled.

The $2995 you see is from a business like me who handles the service for customers, and is bundling tuning.

We will be offering a UNLOCK only service so you can handle the tuning yourself - BM3, or MG Flasher for example.

It's been hard to do this because we have been randomly hit with $300 fuel surcharges on shipping.

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To be clear, this isn't FEMTO's pricing.

B58 and S58 have different pricing + both have options for keep remote start enabled.

The $2995 you see is from a business like me who handles the service for customers, and is bundling tuning.

We will be offering a UNLOCK only service so you can handle the tuning yourself - BM3, or MG Flasher for example.

It's been hard to do this because we have been randomly hit with $300 fuel surcharges on shipping.

John
What will be the price for the unlock service through you guys? And when will this be available so we can just start sending all the 21+ guys to you that are desperate for a tune lol
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I think you're confusing the two ecus. Pre 06/2020 ECU's are non bosch and can get be unlocked right now using just a bench unlock. A lot of shops in the US can do this unlock. I have 4-5 local shops that can do this unlock. Post 06/2020 ecu's are bosch ecu's which are fully locked. For 650 euros you can send your bosch ecu to Femto in Russia and they can do a bench unlock. They are the ONLY people right now that can bench unlock a post 06/2020 ecu. For $2995 they will clone your post 06/2020 ecu to a pre 06/2020 ecu. The difference here is, if you go into the dealer and they do a software update, the ECU is now LOCKED again. So you have to send your ecu back to Russia to be unlocked once again. However, if you have a pre 06/2020 ecu or a cloned to pre 06/2020 ecu, you can take it to local shops in the US that can do an unlock or ship it to kiesmotorsports in NJ and they do like 2 day turnaround for unlocks. Hope this helps.
If the ECU is cloned to be a pre 6/2020 ECU, isn't it the version that can be flashed and cannot be locked where it needs a bench unlock?

Where it can be unlocked/flashed through the OBD/Remote unlock?

From my understanding, I think there are 3 different versions.... one, like the old F30 ECUs that can be modified/unlocked remotely that were on the 2019 and some 2020 models, second where it's able to be bench unlocked and can be locked by the dealer or OTA update but can be bench unlocked again pre 6/2020 ecus...... and third the ones that have no solution now except for sending it to russia to get unlocked or cloned some 2020s and all 2021s. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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This is a good video that explains the new Femto bench unlock for the 06/2020 ecus.
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If the ECU is cloned to be a pre 6/2020 ECU, isn't it the version that can be flashed and cannot be locked where it needs a bench unlock?

Where it can be unlocked/flashed through the OBD/Remote unlock?

From my understanding, I think there are 3 different versions.... one, like the old F30 ECUs that can be modified/unlocked remotely that were on the 2019 and some 2020 models, second where it's able to be bench unlocked and can be locked by the dealer or OTA update but can be bench unlocked again pre 6/2020 ecus...... and third the ones that have no solution now except for sending it to russia to get unlocked or cloned some 2020s and all 2021s. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
There are only two ECUs. Anything pre 06/2020 can be flashed via OBD2 with a caveat*. If you have a more recent firmware update (ie software update done at the dealer when they do the brake recall or OTA update) This locks the ecu. It is something BMW started doing to stop people from flashing/tuning. These ECU's need to be bench unlocked. This even applies the F30 340i ECU's. My friend had to bench unlock his 2017 340i. So for example, my car is a 05/19 manufactured car. According to that, I should just be able to flash and go because it is an early version ecu. But it is locked. I verified with MHD and BM3 that I need a bench unlock because I have the 07.2021 firmware update on the car (Dealer did the brake recall before I purchased it). But if I still had the original 03.2020 firmware on the car, I would not need the bench unlock. That is why people tell dealers up front to not update the firmware if they have the bench unlock. I have seen a picture on the forum where someone printed a message of "Do not update firmware" and put it on the screen. This is what I plan to do once I bench unlock next month.
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