[PrezRoosevelt]

Had a quick call with Mission since I was curious about picking up a license transfer but it sounds like the 2021+ tuning is going to be a while off. Still going to wait but they made it sound very far off and referred to their website which basically reiterates what was already said in this topic. I wouldn't bother with any ideas of beta testing even if local, they seem to have more than enough and kind of tired of being asked that. Hopefully we get some news next year.

[MTWO]

So after 6 months this is still even a thing? Maybe time to let this thread die or do something.

[xnick101]

The M3 tuning scene is really getting hot right now after so many people are running 10's just on JB4. I am sure someone else will unlock that ECU soon enough! The demand is building up, so more people will start trying.

[rrfitness20]

For those of you tuned on stage 2 where your HP/TQ values changed to 560/560 or 480/560 on the dash?

[chenry]

Originally Posted by rrfitness20

For those of you tuned on stage 2 where your HP/TQ values changed to 560/560 or 480/560 on the dash?

Here you go -

In that stage 2 is safely just about maxing out that HP number at the wheels (meaning 525+ crank) might be time to up those numbers

ps- yes I know the gauges are largely just for fun

[rrfitness20]

Thank you. Always coming through with the best info

[b58.fazil]

Originally Posted by chenry

Here you go -

In that stage 2 is safely just about maxing out that HP number at the wheels (meaning 525+ crank) might be time to up those numbers

ps- yes I know the gauges are largely just for fun

Uhh according to missions website it's suppose 560 hp and 480 lb-ft torque on the gauges.[IMG][/IMG]

[chenry]

Originally Posted by G20B58Lover

Uhh according to missions website it's suppose 560 hp and 480 lb-ft torque on the gauges.[IMG][/IMG]

Ha that's funny good catch looks he transposed the digital gauge numbers on the website

Anyhoo as long as the actual HP output is what it should be (and it is) and the gauge read outs are a simple line of code to change (or whatever he does to manipulate those things) I remain a happy camper

Ps- for anyone that is interested in finding the chart that was shared it can be found here (it's under the specs tab towards the bottom)
https://missiontuning.com/bmw-engine...lash-tune.html

[b58.fazil]

Originally Posted by chenry

Ha that's funny good catch looks he transposed the digital gauge numbers on the website

Anyhoo as long as the actual HP output is what it should be (and it is) and the gauge read outs are a simple line of code to change (or whatever he does to manipulate those things) I remain a happy camper

Ps- for anyone that is interested in finding the chart that was shared it can be found here (it's under the specs tab towards the bottom)
https://missiontuning.com/bmw-engine...lash-tune.html

Totally not a big deal just wanted to point that out lol

[chenry]

Originally Posted by G20B58Lover

Totally not a big deal just wanted to point that out lol

No it was a great catch

Too bad he's not one of those companies that pays to find errors with their app or website - I mean I think this is at least worth an MP hat or something

[Patgilm]

My stage 2 numbers in the gauges were the same as chenry's, 480hp and 560tq.

[Fronttwelv]

Originally Posted by xnick101

The M3 tuning scene is really getting hot right now after so many people are running 10's just on JB4. I am sure someone else will unlock that ECU soon enough! The demand is building up, so more people will start trying.

This is misleading. The g80 tuning scene consists of $6000 tunes and sending ecu to Russia. That's hardly a solution . MP still has the only solution stateside. Hopefully they roll it out soon

[b58.fazil]

Originally Posted by chenry

No it was a great catch

Too bad he's not one of those companies that pays to find errors with their app or website - I mean I think this is at least worth an MP hat or something

Mhmmm. Is that like an actual job—finding errors?? If so what’s the actual name of a job of this sort. Also, should I report my findings to Alex. Seems like this happened to more than one person.

[xnick101]

Originally Posted by Fronttwelv

This is misleading. The g80 tuning scene consists of $6000 tunes and sending ecu to Russia. That's hardly a solution . MP still has the only solution stateside. Hopefully they roll it out soon

It's $2995 for the unlock actually but at least it's a WORKING solution that people can use to unlock their ECU. Most people I have heard from are getting their ECU back within one-two weeks using this solution and they are able to tune like normal. MP has not released anything to the public. And someone will fully crack it soon. Trust me. I have also heard rumors that Femto may be able to soon do the cloning remotely. So the sending to Russia part won't be needed.

[Justagoodguy]

Originally Posted by xnick101

It's $2995 for the unlock actually but at least it's a WORKING solution that people can use to unlock their ECU. Most people I have heard from are getting their ECU back within one-two weeks using this solution and they are able to tune like normal. MP has not released anything to the public. And someone will fully crack it soon. Trust me. I have also heard rumors that Femto may be able to soon do the cloning remotely. So the sending to Russia part won't be needed.

Omfg, i hope it will be soon. Bcs send to Russia, wait 2-3 weeks & after start to tune - not good soultion.

[Rux]

Cloned DME. Probably the only viable, safe solution right now.



They contacted me:

We can unlock it inhouse however we will need the cars for 4-5 days.
For a DME unlock and a custom stage 1 ECU tune, we charge:
-DME unlock:£1200+VAT
-Stage 1: £799+VAT

2300 USD. Wish someone in the US offered this service.

[chenry]

Re: Gauges

I mentioned this to Alex yesterday during my beta app call with him. He shared that originally the gauges were 560/560 but many customers asked that the gauges (not the actual output haha) be lowered so he obliged. He asked my opinion and I said I thought they should be put back to 560/560 which would represent crank and be consistent with the oem approach when it comes to the sport gauge readouts

As an example my stage 2 car dynos very safely at 475ish WHP which equates to 525ish+ crank HP depending on what percentage you want to use for drivetrain loss. So even though I never look at the sport gauges I think 560/560 would be best - just my 2-cents

[b58.fazil]

Originally Posted by chenry

Re: Gauges

I mentioned this to Alex yesterday during my beta app call with him. He shared that originally the gauges were 560/560 but many customers asked that the gauges (not the actual output haha) be lowered so he obliged. He asked my opinion and I said I thought they should be put back to 560/560 which would represent crank and be consistent with the oem approach when it comes to the sport gauge readouts

As an example my stage 2 car dynos very safely at 475ish WHP which equates to 525ish+ crank HP depending on what percentage you want to use for drivetrain loss. So even though I never look at the sport gauges I think 560/560 would be best - just my 2-cents

Ahh ok. I was just about to call Alex and inform him regarding my findings. Personally, I also think having 560/560 is very good. Also very nice hat. Would love to get one but didn't see it on Missions' site. Btw how'd your call with Alex go?

[z€No]

Originally Posted by Rux

Cloned DME. Probably the only viable, safe solution right now.



They contacted me:

We can unlock it inhouse however we will need the cars for 4-5 days.
For a DME unlock and a custom stage 1 ECU tune, we charge:
-DME unlock:£1200+VAT
-Stage 1: £799+VAT

2300 USD. Wish someone in the US offered this service.

Nice offer

But will they send the ECU to Russia or not, since the turnaround time from Europe is supposed to be less than from the US?

Besides that, a cloned DME is not an unlocked one afaik, but correct me if i'm wrong.

[carguy19]

Originally Posted by Fronttwelv

This is misleading. The g80 tuning scene consists of $6000 tunes and sending ecu to Russia. That's hardly a solution . MP still has the only solution stateside. Hopefully they roll it out soon

MP doesn't have a solution technically until they start selling it.

I'm really getting impatient/annoyed with having to wait to get my car tuned. I'm going to be ready to change cars likely before this tune even debuts for the 2021 and up vehicles.

What MP should do is take pre orders for tunes.... get everyone to pay for them in full, rack up what they think is a fair number of people paying full retail for the tunes where they make a fair profit without anyone having their proprietary tuning tricks.... then flash all the ECU's in order of the deposits over a short time. Once all that is done. if other tuning companies copy their knowledge and tuning processes at least they made their boatload of money initially on the offering of the tune/pre sale. Besides, MP is still going to be the top choice of many people even after the other companies start offering similar tunes.

This whole keeping secrets/not releasing tunes/trying to protect their unique way of accessing the DME is essentially a form of greed. Instead of being dedicated to the hobby and the enthusiast they want to find a way to not have someone copy their idea so they can make a ton of money for a long long time. I think they have every right to make money, but coming to market with the product with the best and first solution should hold weight for a lot of people picking a tuning company. They should share their contribution with the hobby and enthusiast and get this party started.

[xnick101]

Originally Posted by carguy19

I'm really getting impatient/annoyed with having to wait to get my car tuned. I'm going to be ready to change cars likely before this tune even debuts for the 2021 and up vehicles.

Don't do it. These cars tuned are stupid fast and still very reliable. Just wait a bit longer. It's definitely coming. G80's/A91 guys need tunes. Someone will crack it or find an easier solution to cloning state side.

[brwnbo1]

Originally Posted by carguy19

MP doesn't have a solution technically until they start selling it.

I'm really getting impatient/annoyed with having to wait to get my car tuned. I'm going to be ready to change cars likely before this tune even debuts for the 2021 and up vehicles.

What MP should do is take pre orders for tunes.... get everyone to pay for them in full, rack up what they think is a fair number of people paying full retail for the tunes where they make a fair profit without anyone having their proprietary tuning tricks.... then flash all the ECU's in order of the deposits over a short time. Once all that is done. if other tuning companies copy their knowledge and tuning processes at least they made their boatload of money initially on the offering of the tune/pre sale. Besides, MP is still going to be the top choice of many people even after the other companies start offering similar tunes.

This whole keeping secrets/not releasing tunes/trying to protect their unique way of accessing the DME is essentially a form of greed. Instead of being dedicated to the hobby and the enthusiast they want to find a way to not have someone copy their idea so they can make a ton of money for a long long time. I think they have every right to make money, but coming to market with the product with the best and first solution should hold weight for a lot of people picking a tuning company. They should share their contribution with the hobby and enthusiast and get this party started.

Originally Posted by carguy19

MP doesn't have a solution technically until they start selling it.

I'm really getting impatient/annoyed with having to wait to get my car tuned. I'm going to be ready to change cars likely before this tune even debuts for the 2021 and up vehicles.

What MP should do is take pre orders for tunes.... get everyone to pay for them in full, rack up what they think is a fair number of people paying full retail for the tunes where they make a fair profit without anyone having their proprietary tuning tricks.... then flash all the ECU's in order of the deposits over a short time. Once all that is done. if other tuning companies copy their knowledge and tuning processes at least they made their boatload of money initially on the offering of the tune/pre sale. Besides, MP is still going to be the top choice of many people even after the other companies start offering similar tunes.

This whole keeping secrets/not releasing tunes/trying to protect their unique way of accessing the DME is essentially a form of greed. Instead of being dedicated to the hobby and the enthusiast they want to find a way to not have someone copy their idea so they can make a ton of money for a long long time. I think they have every right to make money, but coming to market with the product with the best and first solution should hold weight for a lot of people picking a tuning company. They should share their contribution with the hobby and enthusiast and get this party started.

Literally. Considered parting with my car for a 2020z