G26 430/440 Gran Coupe Power seat deletion (ZDC)

sfbimmer · 10-19-2021, 04:53 PM

Just found out from my dealer that BMW has deleted power seats from the first batch of all 4-series Gran Coupe models coming to USA.

This was a surprise find for the dealership and they are just informing bunch of their customers waiting for 430/440 Gran Coupes.

ZDC Deletion of Power seats -995.00

My vehicle is almost at the destination port. BMW seems to have sneaked this in. I still can't see this deletion noted in the "Track My BMW". But the dealer can now see it in the invoice.

If you have a 430/440 GC order please check with your dealership.

dr_frankfurter · 10-19-2021, 05:00 PM

Deletion of power seats? As in they're completely manually adjustable? That's ridiculous...

greekcs · 10-19-2021, 07:36 PM

I just looked up a few G26 VINs and don't see any mention of power seats on any of the build sheets.

sfbimmer · 10-19-2021, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by greekcs

I just looked up a few G26 VINs and don't see any mention of power seats on any of the build sheets.

It's showing up in the dealer invoices now according to dealer. (I got a copy that show the deletion)
I still can't see that on VIN search of my car in myBMW site though.

GranCoupay · 10-19-2021, 11:51 PM

This cannot be. How is BMW ok with selling manual seats?! I hope this is only for the passenger, and even so that's barely acceptable.

VipinLJ · 10-20-2021, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GranCoupay

This cannot be. How is BMW ok with selling manual seats?! I hope this is only for the passenger, and even so that's barely acceptable.

I believe the base seats on the 3 series in Europe are manual? I could be wrong but yeah.

ovesund · 10-20-2021, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VipinLJ

I believe the base seats on the 3 series in Europe are manual? I could be wrong but yeah.

Not just base but also the sport seats.
Then again, it's not like it's a big deal unless you constantly change drivers.

Redditor9000 · 10-20-2021, 04:57 AM

This is shocking to hear, but may not be a deal breaker for me.

Here are some thoughts about this in another posting.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...Vs-Power-seats

bavarianride · 10-20-2021, 07:35 AM

Wow even motorized/powered parts are now affected. What can be next?

E.g. will anyone miss power windows?

No power locks? No alarm? No rain sensing wipers? No garage door opener?

ovesund · 10-20-2021, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bavarianride

Wow even motorized/powered parts are now affected. What can be next?

Power steering?

Burrcold · 10-20-2021, 08:33 AM

I would not accept a vehicle of this price without power seats (especially if you are financing and have to resell down the road). I suspect there will be a few cancelled orders if this is true.

tturedraider · 10-20-2021, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

I would not accept a vehicle of this price without power seats (especially if you are financing and have to resell down the road). I suspect there will be a few cancelled orders if this is true.

You are absolutely correct. I predict BMWNA is going to have a bunch of Gran Coupes sitting on dealer lots gathering dust. Virtually no BMW customer in the U.S. market will accept manual seats on a car at this price point. Big mistake for BMW.

alex2364 · 10-20-2021, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

You are absolutely correct. I predict BMWNA is going to have a bunch of Gran Coupes sitting on dealer lots gathering dust. Virtually no BMW customer in the U.S. market with accept manual seats on a car at this price point. Big mistake for BMW.

Unless the dealer “forgets” to mention these cars are missing power seats and the customer doesn’t find out until they bring their shiny new car home.

Burrcold · 10-20-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

Unless the dealer “forgets” to mention these cars are missing power seats and the customer doesn’t find out until they bring their shiny new car home.

If someone doesn't notice they don't have power seats until they get home, they deserve the botched car. Lol

wrickem · 10-20-2021, 12:58 PM

That would be completely unacceptable to me, especially for a car at launch.

Fwiw, I just ordered a new P-car, and while all options are available, it's going to take at least 10 months from last Friday! I'd rather wait to get the car I want, BMW should have delayed the launch.

bavarianride · 10-20-2021, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ovesund

Power steering?

I think EPS is integral to G20 ECU and lots of work to delete.

Looking at bmw.co.uk configurator, there are lots of ala carte power options, so they may fall off one by one, e.g. power moonroof, power mirror, power lift trunk, ....

Redditor9000 · 10-20-2021, 01:59 PM

Hi sfbimmer,

I can also confirm that my m440i GC build week 37 (currently in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean) also has power seat deleted from the build.

Ajaxxn · 10-20-2021, 01:59 PM

Just confirmed my M440i GC build has had the power seats deleted…Super pissed, and really contemplating not taking delivery. Being credited $995, but still…I agree BMW should have waited and delivered vehicles exact how they were ordered. Should have at least reached out to the customer to give them a choice to wait (for chip that controls the power seat), or to take delivery on schedule with manual seats. If I had the option I would have chose to wait.

Redditor9000 · 10-20-2021, 02:06 PM

Ajaxxn- My main issue is- the way things are going, if we wait, we may be waiting for years to get a car with the electronic options we want that are currently in our builds.

Ajaxxn · 10-20-2021, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Redditor9000

Ajaxxn- My main issue is- the way things are going, if we wait, we may be waiting for years to get a car with the electronic options we want that are currently in our builds.

True

sfbimmer · 10-20-2021, 02:25 PM

According to my dealership, power seats seem to be available for new GC orders. At least for now.

Even BMW Geniuses did not know anything about it as of yesterday. My SF bay area dealer who seems to have pre-sold all 430/440 GC allocations are notifying customers now.
BMW really sneaked this in unlike other deletions, probably to not miss the launch date.

Fans are the ones who jumped into the first batch of orders after waiting for months until they can order. BMW should have notified this asap to dealers, instead of waiting to find out when the ships reach destination ports.

I double checked all options with dealer and through the Genius line just before production started. Pretty mad about this as no way I can convince my wife to accept this as we swap vehicles fairly often and gotten used to easy seat adjustments into preferred settings. Dealer said they asked BMW for a post delivery swap/fix but got a no. They are advising me (customers) to reach out to BMW. If you are affected please complain and see whether BMW can commit to a post delivery swap.

sfbimmer · 10-20-2021, 02:28 PM

Reselling a used loaded BMW in USA and not having power seats will be tough down the road.

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Redditor9000 Private First Class 99 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2022 M440i GC Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	This is shocking to hear, but may not be a deal breaker for me. Here are some thoughts about this in another posting. https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...Vs-Power-seats
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bavarianride Major General 1505 Rep 5,088 Posts Drives: bimmer Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: northern california iTrader: (0)	Wow even motorized/powered parts are now affected. What can be next? E.g. will anyone miss power windows? No power locks? No alarm? No rain sensing wipers? No garage door opener?
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