[Racer-X]

Originally Posted by kjx

Sucks, but I’m going to bet we’ll see a lot more M4 CSL accidents and write offs than M3 CS.

For the simple reason that a car this powerful (even in regular flavors) is best managed as an M xDrive vehicle than an RWD one.

From my own experiences pushing my own regular G82 to the limit on closed courses in all modes, the non-AWD modes are fun but difficult to finesse (even with professional instruction), and 99%+ of the time only worsen the safety envelope for most G8X owners.

So my prediction is that most G8X wrecks on public roads will be cars with:
- the wrong tires for the weather (summer tires in winter mostly, some in cold wet weather).
- RWD cars or AWD cars driven in 2WD mode.
- AWD cars on a 10-stage traction control setting less than 8.

Safe, trained drivers in RWD with the right tires > very unsafe drivers in AWD. My notes were from a statistical standpoint. And untrained but decent drivers in AWD can push a lot harder safely than what even (M Driving School-) trained RWD drivers can achieve with some effort and theater (real world side-by-side observations).

[Racer-X]

[CoffeeLife]

Originally Posted by Boss330

It’s the airbag that damages the windshield when it inflates.

Yea definitely the airbag. Seen it happen on multiple BMWs. It deploys even when no passenger is there and always causes some type of damage to the front windshield.

[M3_Dust]

Greg b?

[miked07]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

I guess even the airbag didn't stop the passenger from hitting the windshield?

The windshield will often break when the airbags blow.

[c18]

Originally Posted by Mani59

According to Zero2Turbo on X (formally Twitter), this South Africa M4 CSL was involved in a bad accident and potentially, will be written off reducing the number of M4 CSLs from 15 to 14 in South Africa.

In any case, I hope everyone involved is OK!

How much for the strut brace?

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

Lots of speculation! How do we know someone didn't cross into their lane? Or run a redlight and cause the driver to swerve to avoid an accident? Maybe a gazelle jumped in front of their car! Who the hell knows?!

Welcome to Bimmerpost!!!!

Originally Posted by Teutonic

To be honest, I dont think is that bad. Front bumper, fender, hood, headlamp, interior headliner and airbags is not that big of a deal, especially given the niche of the vehicle.

If the frame is untouched, it can be fixed.

Anything can be fixed. Doesn’t mean it’s not a write off. This is a write off. If it’ll be fixed and sold somewhere else is for anyone to speculate.

[BDO]

Originally Posted by JJacksonIII

Maybe a gazelle jumped in front of their car!

Chased by a lion!

[dezzracer]

Almost afraid to admit this but.. after much experimentation and discovery, I now almost always leave all nannies on in my F80 CS when on street. Saves on tire wear too.

[G30 B58]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

To be honest, I dont think is that bad. Front bumper, fender, hood, headlamp, interior headliner and airbags is not that big of a deal, especially given the niche of the vehicle.

If the frame is untouched, it can be fixed.

This is how race / track cars are born.

[2M]

Not really, someone wil buy it at auction, fix it, and it will be reborn lol

[pizza240]

Originally Posted by kjx

So my prediction is that most G8X wrecks on public roads will be cars with:
- the wrong tires for the weather (summer tires in winter mostly, some in cold wet weather).
- RWD cars or AWD cars driven in 2WD mode.
- AWD cars on a 10-stage traction control setting less than 8.

Prediction is good aside from your note about the TC at 8 or less.
I think TC needs to be quite low to be a main cause of crashes. Setting it at 8 can barely get slip at all. I started at 7 and lowered it over a couple of days until I liked the feel. Only started to like it around 4. Settled on 3. Still feels "safe".

[barryc365]

Who knows what actually happened

AWD/RWD doesn’t matter, if you’re acting the jack ass you’ll get bitten either way (not saying that’s what happened here)

[NotSharocks]

This is very reminiscent of the E46 M3 CSL when it first came out.

That was more due to tires and weather but still.

Ya'll gotta start driving the collector cars like an old dude with a Vette and build sheet laminated in the damn car.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Who knows what actually happened

AWD/RWD doesn’t matter, if you’re acting the jack ass you’ll get bitten either way (not saying that’s what happened here)

There was definitely a kid on a bicycle involved. For sure.

[NotSharocks]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

Greg b?

I got this.

I doubt anyone else here understood.

RIP M3FFOT.

[2one3E90]

once these get tuned my mhd. Its gonna be a monster

[G30M]

the dash cluster is so beautiful, perfect, expensive and unobtainable

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by ErikJ1

I can't imagine the security situation having a car like that in SA

What security situation?

These cars are targeted by criminal way way less here than they are in Europe.

Here they want trucks and VW Polos.
Higher end cars are too easy to trace.


The biggest problem here with these cars is its extremely difficult to get any track time with them, so most are raced on the public roads.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

What security situation?

These cars are targeted by criminal way way less here than they are in Europe.

Here they want trucks and VW Polos.
Higher end cars are too easy to trace.


The biggest problem here with these cars is its extremely difficult to get any track time with them, so most are raced on the public roads.

I’d move immediately… 💨

[vetteflier]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

To be honest, I dont think is that bad. Front bumper, fender, hood, headlamp, interior headliner and airbags is not that big of a deal, especially given the niche of the vehicle.

If the frame is untouched, it can be fixed.

I agree. For the totaled value of the car, that damage is fully repairable. Insurance companies are not quick to total expensive cars.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I’d move immediately… 💨

Way easier said than done