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      07-14-2020, 02:01 PM   #1
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Details on the upcoming 07/2020.25 from Chinese forum

https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thr...8570671-1.html

The OP apparently has access to the internal upgrade toolkit and some official documentations.

Latest iLevel versions table:
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Here are some highlights:
- btw OP's G28 325Li has 5AU installed.

1. CarPlay moved to Apps view.
(also confirmed by https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=29)
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g29/M...c5mdeV0901.jpg

2. CarPlay navigation now shown in IC and HUD
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g1/M0...loJHp2I514.jpg
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g29/M...LIpb2Sg605.jpg
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g25/M...lOKO_4c274.jpg

3. New automatic window app
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g30/M...VRkQK9Y341.jpg
https://club2.autoimg.cn/album/g30/M...VRkQK9Y341.jpg

4. Digital Key 1.0 to 1.5 details
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1、由于官方在本月初曾发文通告:基于Carkey数字钥匙1.5将在9月推出,之前基于安卓手机的数字钥 匙1.0将被淘汰,那么在此之前激活的数字钥匙届时将无法续费;而能够使用数字钥匙1.5的车辆集成等级必 须是出厂等级为07/2020.XX的车辆,所以,当我升级到07/2020.25后,我的三星手机即不能再作为数字钥匙使用。

在此援此一官方的通告内容:

-从2020年7月开始,互联驾驶商店将架数字钥匙1.0产品,无法续约服务。 您也可以在7月1日前续约您的数字钥匙服务产品。

-出厂集成等级于20-07-5xx,则车辆支持数字钥匙1.0,只支持安卓手机,使用期限为互联驾驶合同开通后的一年内; (如用户有需求使用苹果手机,未来可通过升级车辆软件,刷新BDC模块来支持数字钥匙1.5。苹果手机用户 数字钥匙具体支持时间方法细节待定。)

- 出厂集成等级大于等于20-07-5xx, 则车辆支持数字钥匙1.5,只支持苹果手机,无法支持安卓手机用户。
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1. Since BMW announced at the beginning of this month: Carkey digital key 1.5 will be launched in September, the previous digital key 1.0 based on Android phones will be eliminated, and The digital key activated before this time can not be renewed; the vehicle integration level that can use the digital key 1.5 must be a vehicle with a factory iLevel of 07/2020.XX, so when I upgrade to 07/2020.25, my Samsung mobile phone can no longer be used as a digital key.

Here is the official announcement:

-From July 2020 onwards, the ConnectedDrive Store will delist digital key 1.0 products and existing service can no longer be renewed. You can still renew your 1.0 digital key service product before July 1.

-If out-of-factory iLevel is older than 20-07-5xx , the vehicle supports digital key 1.0, which only supports Android phones, and the period of use is within one year after the opening of the connected driving contract; (If the user needs to use an Apple phone, the vehicle can be upgraded in the future Software, refresh the BDC module to support digital key 1.5. The specific support time and details of digital keys for Apple mobile phone users to be determined.)

-If out-of-factory iLevel is greater than or equal to 20-07-5xx, the vehicle supports digital key 1.5, which only supports Apple mobile phones, and it does not support Android phone users.
So it seems that Digital Key 1.0 is gonna be eliminated in preference to iOS CarKey.
From what I read is that Digital Key 1.5 needs iLevel update at the dealer.
RSU will bring some new features but not all. This collaborates Jay's comment in another thread that Android Auto will only be available at dealer update.

5. Given the complexity of this major version, OP says there will be incremental .xx updates coming out this month.

6. Numerous small UI changes in iDrive7

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      07-14-2020, 02:50 PM   #2
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One thing I still don't understand - when is the new digikey produced, which supports iphone? Because mine is manufactured on 19th of july and I'm wondering whether I'm getting the new system or the old?
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One thing I still don't understand - when is the new digikey produced, which supports iphone? Because mine is manufactured on 19th of july and I'm wondering whether I'm getting the new system or the old?
Someone asked the same question, and the OP says vehicles produced in September will come with the "new version". Not sure if he is referring to just software or iLevel. Also he might be only referring to Chinese models.
https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thr...0671-3.html#41
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Hi,

Hmmm, any mention of Android Auto?
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      07-14-2020, 04:20 PM   #5
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Hmmm, any mention of Android Auto?
Android Auto, along with most other Google services are not available in the Chinese market so there is not much info here.
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Someone asked the same question, and the OP says vehicles produced in September will come with the "new version". Not sure if he is referring to just software or iLevel. Also he might be only referring to Chinese models.
https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thr...0671-3.html#41
No idea, I thought the update would come to my2021 cars, and I got told by my dealer that my car is my2021.
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      07-15-2020, 01:11 PM   #7
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Very interesting.

Are we saying that older vehicles (pre July 2020) with Digital Key Card and Comfort Access could be upgraded to support Apple CarKey as well as Android Auto etc?
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Anyway you can post the pictures here since the links don’t work for me. CarPlay NAV in the HUD would be awesome.
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Anyway you can post the pictures here since the links donít work for me. CarPlay NAV in the HUD would be awesome.
That would be the end of the OEM Nav.
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Anyway you can post the pictures here since the links donít work for me.
Copy image link and open it manually. There's some reference protection enabled on the foreign server.
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That would be the end of the OEM Nav.
Not so sure about that but if thatís the price......hopefully it will be Waze too and not just Apple Maps.
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One thing I still don't understand - when is the new digikey produced, which supports iphone? Because mine is manufactured on 19th of july and I'm wondering whether I'm getting the new system or the old?
Someone asked the same question, and the OP says vehicles produced in September will come with the "new version". Not sure if he is referring to just software or iLevel. Also he might be only referring to Chinese models.
https://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thr...0671-3.html#41
The OP in thread mentioned vehicle "off the production line" in September will equipped with new version, but I don't know how much time it takes to produce a car.
But he also said the car before July can upgrade to new version as well by updating software.
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I got this upgrade today via dealer in UK when having some issues with sunroof fixed. Nov 2019 build.

Not noticed anything major yet but will play tomorrow starting with CarPlay nav.
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I got this upgrade today via dealer in UK when having some issues with sunroof fixed. Nov 2019 build.

Not noticed anything major yet but will play tomorrow starting with CarPlay nav.
So you have the latest July software
Should feel difference especially Google navigation is able to display on HUD.
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-If out-of-factory iLevel is older than 20-07-5xx , the vehicle supports digital key 1.0, which only supports Android phones, and the period of use is within one year after the opening of the connected driving contract; (If the user needs to use an Apple phone, the vehicle can be upgraded in the future Software, refresh the BDC module to support digital key 1.5. The specific support time and details of digital keys for Apple mobile phone users to be determined.)
It seems, based on your translation, that pre July 2020 built BMWs with the 1.0 digital key (Samsung) can be upgraded to support digital key 1.5 (Apple). The body domain controller can just be upgraded? If so, that's great news for all of us that got screwed by this out of cycle update. Then again I doubt it as BMW would have said so when announcing Digital Key.

I really hope it's true though
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Getting 403 errors on the original links, anyone have pics of what CarPlay Nav looks like in the instrument cluster?
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-If out-of-factory iLevel is older than 20-07-5xx , the vehicle supports digital key 1.0, which only supports Android phones, and the period of use is within one year after the opening of the connected driving contract; (If the user needs to use an Apple phone, the vehicle can be upgraded in the future Software, refresh the BDC module to support digital key 1.5. The specific support time and details of digital keys for Apple mobile phone users to be determined.)
It seems, based on your translation, that pre July 2020 built BMWs with the 1.0 digital key (Samsung) can be upgraded to support digital key 1.5 (Apple). The body domain controller can just be upgraded? If so, that's great news for all of us that got screwed by this out of cycle update. Then again I doubt it as BMW would have said so when announcing Digital Key.

I really hope it's true though
I'm hoping for that as well. I think BMW was afraid to create even more confusion as Android Auto is also on the way.
Another perspective is that If you look at the latest press about the July update, their strategy is to sell you as many post-purchase upgrades as possible. I doubt they would let this opportunity go if people are willing to pay.
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I'm hoping for that as well. I think BMW was afraid to create even more confusion as Android Auto is also on the way.
Another perspective is that If you look at the latest press about the July update, their strategy is to sell you as many post-purchase upgrades as possible. I doubt they would let this opportunity go if people are willing to pay.
Sad to say I think this is why we won't see it happen. BMW would be jumping around the idea of selling another feature on the ConnectedDrive store.

I do think that this could be a bit of an issue with Apple actually. Funnily enough Apple got annoyed at BMW for charging a subscription fee to CarPlay and was the driving force behind abolishing it (not the disgruntled customers and bad press). I wouldn't be surprised if Apple told BMW that they can't charge Digital Key to existing customers so BMW just cut their losses and won't offer it to older vehicles at all. Hope I'm wrong but that's probably what will go down.
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I got this upgrade today via dealer in UK when having some issues with sunroof fixed. Nov 2019 build.

Not noticed anything major yet but will play tomorrow starting with CarPlay nav.
So you have the latest July software
Should feel difference especially Google navigation is able to display on HUD.
I wouldn't say it feels massively different tbh.

Google and Apple maps work in the HUD with turning directions but no map is shown in the digital dash.

Waze doesn't work in the HUD or digital dash unless there is a setting I've missed.

Wireless Car play is more stable

Android Auto works fine testing with my Wife's phone but not used it extensively because I use an iPhone.

BMW navigation maps look slightly better but not noticed anything with the 'cloud maps' BMW talk about

IDrive feels quicker

Comfort access also working better in that the walk up and walk away is more responsive
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I've got this update but google maps wasn't appearing in the HUD. Is there a setting I need to enable?
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I've got this update but google maps wasn't appearing in the HUD. Is there a setting I need to enable?
I don't think that is possible at the moment. It depends on if CarPlay allows 3rd party apps to provide turn by turn info to iDrive.
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I've got this update but google maps wasn't appearing in the HUD. Is there a setting I need to enable?
I don't think that is possible at the moment. It depends on if CarPlay allows 3rd party apps to provide turn by turn info to iDrive.
The only thing that works in the HUD with Google maps is the turn directions. Same with Apple Maps.

Waze nothing.
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