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      11-14-2019, 02:29 PM   #1
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Ford's new electric crossover will officially be named 'Mustang Mach-E'

Is there a market for this?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Mustang+Mach+E
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      11-14-2019, 02:42 PM   #2
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The name leveraging does not really bother me. I understand the reasoning. It is a move towards EV without taking away the V8 powered true mustang. Jeep did it years ago and I am sure there was push back in the beginning. I think the Mach-E looks decent in pictures, but I want to see it in person. It would be nice to have a Model 3 competitor that is hopefully still on the affordable side of the equation. I am excited to see what the future holds for automotive!
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      11-14-2019, 03:23 PM   #3
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It looks more like a crossover than a Mustang.



https://jalopnik.com/my-problem-with...h-e-1839863097
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Yikes!😯

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It looks more like a crossover than a Mustang.



https://jalopnik.com/my-problem-with...h-e-1839863097
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      11-14-2019, 04:18 PM   #5
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It looks more like a crossover than a Mustang.



https://jalopnik.com/my-problem-with...h-e-1839863097
Haven't seen those pics....thats a cryin' shame.
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      11-14-2019, 05:47 PM   #7
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Should be called the “Mach E”-ato since it looks like this “Mustang” drank quite a few of those to get to that size.
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      11-14-2019, 06:07 PM   #8
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I am conflicted about this...and I am a stang fan...
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      11-14-2019, 11:38 PM   #9
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And... its already leaked.

https://jalopnik.com/2020-ford-musta...-60-1839875945



Overall, specs actually seem pretty good. Up to 300 miles of range should impress many, and the looks are better than what I thought they'd be - although I set the bar low - but the rear end needs some work. Also, where are the door handles? Anyways, should be interesting to see how this does.
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      11-15-2019, 12:48 AM   #10
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Not to bad looking. Certainly better than the Aztek inspired model x.
Of the specs are true it'll sell well. But tesla has the upper hand with charging stations.
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But tesla has the upper hand with charging stations.
I supposed Tesla charging station specs are standardized? Like gas station as it should be able to service any type of car. Personally I think Tesla charging station would be a waste if they can only be used for Tesla cars. IMHO.
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Rumor is mid 3 second zero to 60.
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Wow, actually looks good. Can't believe Ford got it right, and BMW did this...

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Specs look great too:

First Launch Edition: 270mi EPA range, ~5.5s 0-60, AWD, $52k after tax-rebate. This is squarely aimed at the AWD LR Model Y, which as 280mi EPA range, 4.8s 0-60, AWD, $50k tax-rebate. Slightly worse specs but it also seem to come with special upgraded interior/exterior trim, and the interior quality does look more upscale.

California Route 1 Trim: 300mi EPA range, ~6.5s 0-60, AWD, $45k after tax-rebate. This is even much better value than the LR RWD Model Y at $48k (the Model Y is 1s faster 0-60, but only RWD vs. Ford's AWD).

Select trim: 230mi EPA range, ~5.5s 0-60, RWD/AWD, $36k after tax-rebate, this undercuts any announced Model Y model and would be a great second car/first EV for many families.

Performance GT trim: 235 EPA range, 3.5s 0-60, AWD, $53k post tax-rebate. 45mi shorter range than the Performance Model Y but also $8k cheaper.
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Specs look great too:

First Launch Edition: 270mi EPA range, ~5.5s 0-60, AWD, $52k after tax-rebate. This is squarely aimed at the AWD LR Model Y, which as 280mi EPA range, 4.8s 0-60, AWD, $50k tax-rebate. Slightly worse specs but it also seem to come with special upgraded interior/exterior trim, and the interior quality does look more upscale.

California Route 1 Trim: 300mi EPA range, ~6.5s 0-60, AWD, $45k after tax-rebate. This is even much better value than the LR RWD Model Y at $48k (the Model Y is 1s faster 0-60, but only RWD vs. Ford's AWD).

Select trim: 230mi EPA range, ~5.5s 0-60, RWD/AWD, $36k after tax-rebate, this undercuts any announced Model Y model and would be a great second car/first EV for many families.

Performance GT trim: 235 EPA range, 3.5s 0-60, AWD, $53k post tax-rebate. 45mi shorter range than the Performance Model Y but also $8k cheaper.
It looks like there is also a Premium trim.

https://www.macheforum.com/site/thre...-video-etc.49/

Assuming these turn out to be legit (and they do appear to be), pricing is right about where I expected.

That said, even if we ignore the Launch Edition model, the lineup is a bit confusing. The "California" model seems redundant given the Premium model, but I am wondering if the idea is that it includes the most popular equipment while still coming in comfortably under the new $60k limit for the $2500 EV rebate in California. But why is it a full second slower to 60MPH than the Premium model? And why is it AWD only? And then there's the GT model which looks great, but the range takes a huge hit, unfortunately.

Hopefully the actual battery capacity in kWh and other important details are revealed during the press announcement on the 17th.
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Hate the name, but other than that Ford looks to have something good on their hands. Hopefully it won't end up like the Bolt, because I honestly think this could sell well.
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Hate the name, but other than that Ford looks to have something good on their hands. Hopefully it won't end up like the Bolt, because I honestly think this could sell well.
I'll forward that to the Ford marketing department for you.
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Not going to lie, specs look good and the vehicle actually looks good. Well done Ford. I couldn’t care less what they call it.
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looks like a better value than a model 3 or Y.

Much better interior/exterior and you actually get a gauge cluster. Everything else in terms of performance seems to match up well with the Teslas. Still kinda weird though... mustang tails, SUV body, and R8 headlights, with a mustang badge lol.
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So I just watched one of the attached promotion videos above, and although it's not my cup of tea it looks ok, much better than the tesla in my opinion. I just don't get why they're calling it a mustang. That just makes no sense to me, it's a 4 door cross over which other than the headlights and taillights has nothing in common with a mustang.
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The presentation was one of the weirdest and most awkward I've seen. And them constantly trying to bring out GT's and Shelby's alongside an SUV made it a bit cringy
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