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      06-04-2019, 09:52 PM   #1123
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The first car in the video looked like an xi based on how high the front sat, the white car looked as if it sat significantly lower, for whatever the hell my 2 cents are worth.
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      06-04-2019, 10:12 PM   #1124
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BMW's been good with their designs lately. I trust them with this one 100%.
Really? So you're a fan of the refrigerator size kidneys? Nice to meet the one and only.
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      06-05-2019, 01:02 AM   #1125
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It is definitely not the enthusiast brand it used to be, and if they ditch the MT completely.......it's curtains!
I will be amazed if the M3 is torque converter auto only. Never thought I would see the day. They could redeem themselves by selling the next gen M2 with the S58 from the get go with a manual transmission.
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      06-05-2019, 06:34 AM   #1126
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Really? So you're a fan of the refrigerator size kidneys? Nice to meet the one and only.
BMW would've never decided on this design language if their research showed I'm the one and only person who would like it.
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      06-05-2019, 07:40 AM   #1127
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BMW would've never decided on this design language if their research showed I'm the one and only person who would like it.
Right, just like BMW would never price the M3 CS so high that they must now offer $20,000-plus discounts to move them.

They’ve made judgement errors before, and until the market reacts you have no idea if this will be one of those or a master stroke. Me, I’m out of the G80 market.
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      06-05-2019, 08:03 AM   #1128
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BMW would've never decided on this design language if their research showed I'm the one and only person who would like it.
BMW is an automotive brand created by humans for humans, so there's nothing perfect about it. Nothing is completely failsafe. Things have flopped before. Cars haven't sold well before. How well the vehicle sells is partially dependent on what the competition does. IF there are subjectively/objectively better options, people will seriously consider them.
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      06-05-2019, 08:20 AM   #1129
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My aftermarket Cobra buckets cost me $3k and that is without any mounting HW. I would think $3k is a very fair price for some decent lightweight factory buckets with shoulder harness pass-through. That said, I think the option would be better suited to the M2 as I think the now supersized G80 M3 will cater more to the business crowd than the track crowd. Would still be great if they offer them for the M3 though! My guess is they still won't be anything like the M4 GTS seats... that is what I'd like to see in the M2 going forward.
I have sparco evo 3s since it's the only seat that fits me comfortably, and they barely set me back $700 a piece. For a daily driver I'd much rather have leather with power adjust-ability and no huge hump to squeeze out of. It's nice for driving but not nice for daily use.

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BMW would've never decided on this design language if their research showed I'm the one and only person who would like it.
pretty sure BMW's primary focus is to increase cooling and efficiency, not looks. Everyone is looking to incorporate bigger open grilles for all the intercoolers and radiators that are needed for modern engines. most recently on the M2C they specifically said they made changes to the grille because of cooling issues they found without the updates.
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      06-05-2019, 08:32 AM   #1130
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BMW is an automotive brand created by humans for humans, so there's nothing perfect about it. Nothing is completely failsafe. Things have flopped before. Cars haven't sold well before. How well the vehicle sells is partially dependent on what the competition does. IF there are subjectively/objectively better options, people will seriously consider them.
And we shall see how well they do.
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      06-05-2019, 08:34 AM   #1131
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Right, just like BMW would never price the M3 CS so high that they must now offer $20,000-plus discounts to move them.

They’ve made judgement errors before, and until the market reacts you have no idea if this will be one of those or a master stroke. Me, I’m out of the G80 market.
But their earnings statement shows positive income even after what you stated about $20k discount on CS.
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      06-05-2019, 09:40 AM   #1132
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I never thought that I ever like the rear configuration of new 3 series, but now with the 4 exhaust pipes and that bulging rear fenders it looks amazing.
You never thought you would ever like the rear of the new 3er .. for all these months ... :
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      06-05-2019, 10:17 AM   #1133
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I never thought that I ever like the rear configuration of new 3 series, but now with the 4 exhaust pipes and that bulging rear fenders it looks amazing.
I'm still not a fan of how straight and thin the tail lights are. My bet is they will put a kink in them for LCI and make them look similar to how the 8-series looks now. The overall outline/shape is nearly identical between the two, so all they need to do is kink the red strip a bit. Of course, they couldn't do it now or else the "all-new" 8-series wouldn't look as special. It also gives them something to do to the 3-er tail lights for LCI. Bet this would look amazing on the G80 LCI.
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      06-05-2019, 12:38 PM   #1134
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I really think the G80 will look very similar to the newly revealed M8. The rear certainly will.
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      06-05-2019, 03:35 PM   #1135
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I think we could assume the interior is going to be consistent during this next M phase
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      06-05-2019, 03:51 PM   #1136
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Feel the love if you allow yourself - I look forward to the M3 very much as long as my UK gets brexit on 31st October!

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BMW would've never decided on this design language if their research showed I'm the one and only person who would like it.
Well, as long as you're happy, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
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I'm still not a fan of how straight and thin the tail lights are. My bet is they will put a kink in them for LCI and make them look similar to how the 8-series looks now. The overall outline/shape is nearly identical between the two, so all they need to do is kink the red strip a bit. Of course, they couldn't do it now or else the "all-new" 8-series wouldn't look as special. It also gives them something to do to the 3-er tail lights for LCI. Bet this would look amazing on the G80 LCI.
That's exactly what I think as well, it's too straight and therefore kinda boring and I'm afraid they'll fix that with the LCI.
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The interior will look virtually identical
So you think the interior of the 8er and new 3er look the same?
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      06-05-2019, 05:34 PM   #1140
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Feel the love if you allow yourself - I look forward to the M3 very much as long as my UK gets brexit on 31st October!

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The interior will look virtually identical
So you think the interior of the 8er and new 3er look the same?
Yes. Yes I do

G20, G05, Z4, 850. Copy and paste.
Nothing new, its been like this for years, all interiors share similar designs and buttons/parts, with materials getting better as you step up the food chain. Mercedes and Audi all do similarly w/ their interiors.

Only really the bangle era had a more different looking interior and exterior for each vehicle, other than that, before and after the bangle era, BMW has been using the Russian Doll Approach both inside and out.
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Well, as long as you're happy, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Yep I think the new M3 will look sick even with the anticipated large vertically oriented grill.
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Well, as long as you're happy, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Yep I think the new M3 will look sick even with the anticipated large vertically oriented grill.
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There’s been some concerns that the G80 might not have a power dome and I suspect that is correct should the G80 and new 4 series borrow a lot from the vision dynamics front end and hood. As you can see in pictures the whole mid line of the vision dynamics is one long power dome that starts with the tall kidneys protruding above the rest of the hood line.
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