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      12-12-2018, 12:25 AM   #45
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Thanks for your impressions, I'm sure it'll be a huge upgrade from F30.

I've had an E90 328i, E92 335is, F30 335i, and F30 340. Hands down the F30 interior is lightyears ahead of the E9x. Can't wait to see what the G2x interior will be like.

Edit: I've also had 2 modern Mazdas for gap cars, a couple months at a time. Really scratching my head at some of the reviewers praising the interiors. Also their infotainment systems randomly reboot sometimes twice per trip. Trash.
Looks like a definite “step up” interior wise in comparison to the F30. Interior of the F30 is full of cheap plastic in comparison to the E9X cars. Ask any honest BMW tech and/or SA who has been at it for at least 3 model runs (E46-F30), they can confirm the same about material quality. That being said, exterior wise “F80- ///M3” is still firmly in the game. IMHO
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      12-12-2018, 12:26 AM   #46
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Many reviewers mention that interior materials are "not up to par" and "ho-hum" and "Mazda offers more exciting interior design". I find this very concerning given that the interior quality was a weak spot on the F30.

As for the manual, Audi and Benz don't offer it, true enough. But then why get the beemer over the other two?
I had the chance to sit in the M340i at the LA Auto Show and I was really disappointed on the quality of the interior materials. It was like a smaller, much cheaper version of the new X5. The interior was a major let down for me. And I'm very critical of BMW since I sell them and always look at these cars from a consumer's point of view. And if I didn't feel wowed, my clients are most likely going to feel the same way.
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      12-12-2018, 01:40 AM   #48
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FYI Straight Pipes video also has a quick M340i track test drive that's in the middle of the video.
Seeing them laugh and giggle throughout the track driving portion really brought back old memories of me in my E36 and E46, hopefully the new M340i can rekindle that magic for me, it seems based on the reviews that it can do so.
Sorry man but that's not possible. Electric steering and turbo motor change things so much that... well we should cry....
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F30 interior > E90 interior

I have owned both.

G20 steering feel has not improved significantly as per some of the reviews. However it's more balanced car now.
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Are there any reviews that actually address legit issues or do they all fawn over the car like little schoolgirls?
Finally somebody said it.

Initial reviews are always positive. I remember for the F30 they were glowing too. The real reviews start coming after a year once comparison tests have been done.

Only way to find out for sure is to drive the car yourself.
Even after a couple of short test drives I couldn't quite get it, so I bought f80 based on expectations, brand, and my comparisons with amg and Macan turbo. I wish gulia was out when I was in the market. And all these reviewers were praising f30 generation and now they are talking about improvements made in this new car... I call it BS. Wait 2 years to see real reviews....
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Looks like a definite step up interior wise in comparison to the F30. Interior of the F30 is full of cheap plastic in comparison to the E9X cars. Ask any honest BMW tech and/or SA who has been at it for at least 3 model runs (E46-F30), they can confirm the same about material quality. That being said, exterior wise F80- ///M3 is still firmly in the game. IMHO
I couldn't care less what the salespeople, techs, or SAs think. I've owned the cars myself.
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Glad the driving dynamics are finally back - shame there's no 6MT anymore which is kind of ironic. Would've loved to grab one as a daily in a few years if it had the stick, guess I'll be running my E90 into the ground...
The M3/4 will have a 6MT. That's the one you want anyway.
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Are there any reviews that actually address legit issues or do they all fawn over the car like little schoolgirls?
Plenty - if you read.
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Yup this was concerning as well. So basically the E90 was peak BMW interior quality. Every single thing in the cabin of those cars feels like it will last a million years. Besides some minor flaking of the rubberized window switches on the drivers' side, my 10 yr old interior with 70K miles is showroom new. You have to dig to find any hard scratchy plastic.

The Audi and Merc aren't going to be as fun to drive and in my opinion, aren't as sharp looking as the Bimmer.
Id say the E46 was just as good. The 16 year old dash was as matte, clean and soft-touch as the day it was delivered when I finally sold it. Same for the door trims, and the seats showed no sag after 120,000 miles. That car will probably last forever. And the E34 and E39, probably forever again!
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Disappointing overall review from Stuart Gallagher at Evo magazine:-

"The biggest frustration is that a few laps of the Portimao circuit in a prototype 340i Xdrive showed there is a great deal of talent and ability engineered in to the new G20 3-series, but on the evidence presented here, very little of it has been allowed to filter down to the lesser models"
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Disappointing overall review from Stuart Gallagher at Evo magazine:-

"The biggest frustration is that a few laps of the Portimao circuit in a prototype 340i Xdrive showed there is a great deal of talent and ability engineered in to the new G20 3-series, but on the evidence presented here, very little of it has been allowed to filter down to the lesser models"
That whole "review" (I use that term loosely) is like 2 pages long of actual text and the driving portion is like 3 short paragraphs. Awful.

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/3-series/2...rcedes-c-class
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Disappointing overall review from Stuart Gallagher at Evo magazine:-

"The biggest frustration is that a few laps of the Portimao circuit in a prototype 340i Xdrive showed there is a great deal of talent and ability engineered in to the new G20 3-series, but on the evidence presented here, very little of it has been allowed to filter down to the lesser models"
That whole "review" (I use that term loosely) is like 2 pages long of actual text and the driving portion is like 3 short paragraphs. Awful.

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/3-series/2...rcedes-c-class
Yeh, not great. Evo employs some of the better motoring journos in the UK which is why I'm disappointed not to read more about the driving experience and not to hear more enthusiasm for it
The quality of the ride seems to divide opinion amongst reviewers which is interesting
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Disappointing overall review from Stuart Gallagher at Evo magazine:-

"The biggest frustration is that a few laps of the Portimao circuit in a prototype 340i Xdrive showed there is a great deal of talent and ability engineered in to the new G20 3-series, but on the evidence presented here, very little of it has been allowed to filter down to the lesser models"
This will certainly please the one-upman, badge-level, status-seeking class-conscious of this parish!
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Disappointing overall review from Stuart Gallagher at Evo magazine:-

"The biggest frustration is that a few laps of the Portimao circuit in a prototype 340i Xdrive showed there is a great deal of talent and ability engineered in to the new G20 3-series, but on the evidence presented here, very little of it has been allowed to filter down to the lesser models"
This will certainly please the one-upman, badge-level, status-seeking class-conscious of this parish!
And those seeking the best performance and driving experience from the new 3 class range
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Many reviewers mention that interior materials are "not up to par" and "ho-hum" and "Mazda offers more exciting interior design". I find this very concerning given that the interior quality was a weak spot on the F30.

As for the manual, Audi and Benz don't offer it, true enough. But then why get the beemer over the other two?
Either the reviewer is biased or it’s clickbait. The interior is a huge step up in materials and finish over f30. Design is subjective.
My guess is they are just comparing it to the C class which lacks those larger swaths of plastic. The new 3 series interior is improved in design but I noticed by the shifter, there is what looks to be large area of pretty plain flat plastic. Where the C class avoids all of that.
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So in the CarWow review he does a 1/4 mile test. Not bad - 12.6 at 112.4 mph. I'm sure the AWD helped get that time down but the mid 112 mph speed is impressive for a stock 340.

Also, Automobile magazine review says the 330 lost 121 lbs yet lists the official curb weight as 3583 lbs. BMWs website for the current 330i automatic says it's 3541. They always seem to play games with weight loss. If they were accurate every time they said this, the 3 series would be 3,000 lbs by now.
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Yup this was concerning as well. So basically the E90 was peak BMW interior quality. Every single thing in the cabin of those cars feels like it will last a million years. Besides some minor flaking of the rubberized window switches on the drivers' side, my 10 yr old interior with 70K miles is showroom new. You have to dig to find any hard scratchy plastic.

The Audi and Merc aren't going to be as fun to drive and in my opinion, aren't as sharp looking as the Bimmer.
I'd say the E46 was just as good. The 16 year old dash was as matte, clean and soft-touch as the day it was delivered when I finally sold it. Same for the door trims, and the seats showed no sag after 120,000 miles. That car will probably last forever. And the E34 and E39, probably forever again!
I agree. e46 was great.
I know some don't have experience in the e38...THAT was the finest tank. Really rock solid.
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Over $60k USD for a loaded M-Sport 330i? Nope.
Ya, The day I spend that kind of money for a 4 cylinder is the day I check myself into a mental hospital.
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