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      10-22-2019, 07:20 PM   #23
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Great now the only hope is it isn't f**king horrible to look at like everything they're putting out
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Don't forget about the kidney grille.
The should be an aftermarket manufacturer whose sole business will be producing custom front ends.
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People who never owned a RWD 6 cylinder car, this is the time

BTW, are we going to see a RWD 2GC based on this platform?
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
100%. Especially the M2 which doesn't really appeal to the badge whores who prefer M4s and M5s.

Compared to modern BMWs and modern cars in general, the M2's steering is adequate for me.
M2 steering is one thing...but it's also well insulated. My friend had M2C...the exhaust feels like it's 2 blocks away....these cars should be more raw....just my opinion
With more and more noise regulation, unlikely?
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
100%. Especially the M2 which doesn't really appeal to the badge whores who prefer M4s and M5s.

Compared to modern BMWs and modern cars in general, the M2's steering is adequate for me.
M5 could be more raw but it would probably miss it's target audience by miles
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Don't forget about the kidney grille.
You mentioned in an earlier thread that the kidney grille won’t be as large as the G80.Will the kidney grille be any larger than the CSL Hommage.
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The 2 is the new 3...
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The 2 is the new 3...
Quite possibly!
Has been since the 2 came out IMO
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Just RWD and manual doesn't help much...the cars need to give some feedback. Too much insulation and there is no road feel, that just kills half of the fun. At least, these lower series cars should be more connected.
100%. Especially the M2 which doesn't really appeal to the badge whores who prefer M4s and M5s.

Compared to modern BMWs and modern cars in general, the M2's steering is adequate for me.
M2 steering is one thing...but it's also well insulated. My friend had M2C...the exhaust feels like it's 2 blocks away....these cars should be more raw....just my opinion
With more and more noise regulation, unlikely?
Not from outside...I mean at least whatever the car is doing outside, it should feel inside.
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The 2 is the new 3...
If only they'd give us 4 doors on this box.
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Don't forget about the kidney grille.
BMW design has a disconnect across their lineups. Some cars have HUGE grilles while others don't. Crazy thing is the new 3er has the updated conjoined grille while the 4er is getting the saloon door front end.


But, there's still hope that the next gen 2er won't have a monstrosity of a grille. At least I 'hope' so.
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Looking forward to buying a 2025 M2 S58.
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Looking forward to buying a 2025 M2 S58.
5 years is a long time

A lot can change
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5 years is a long time

A lot can change
Agreed but I will keep my M2 at-least seven years.
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Will it have an s58 and will there be an M2C?
M240 with that engine would be quite the car
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no worries; there is still time for them to add a terrible ZF 8 speed slushbox into the mix to ruin everything.
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M2 steering is one thing...but it's also well insulated. My friend had M2C...the exhaust feels like it's 2 blocks away....these cars should be more raw....just my opinion
Agreed. But given the direction BMW has taken since the start of this decade I'm just glad they still make a car like the M2 since literally nothing in their portfolio feels "raw" anymore.
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No worries; there is still time for them to add a terrible ZF 8 speed slushbox into the mix to ruin everything.
Screw that.

Long live the proper 7spd DCT ‼️
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Looking forward to buying a 2025 M2 S58.
Me too but I think it's not gonna look good!
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No worries; there is still time for them to add a terrible ZF 8 speed slushbox into the mix to ruin everything.
Screw that.

Long live the proper 7spd DCT ‼️
Not like BMW had the best DCT in town, when you drove ZF8 and left it in auto, how often do you find it to be in the wrong gear?
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No worries; there is still time for them to add a terrible ZF 8 speed slushbox into the mix to ruin everything.
Screw that.

Long live the proper 7spd DCT ‼️
Not like BMW had the best DCT in town, when you drove ZF8 and left it in auto, how often do you find it to be in the wrong gear?
I have found it's a lot less responsive to my input when I prefer to drive way more aggressive.
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As long as it doesn't come with that ugly elongated M4 grill then this is very good news indeed.
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As long as it doesn't come with that ugly elongated M4 grill then this is very good news indeed.
The next M2 will have its own elongated grille, but this M2CS will escape the new grilles.
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no worries; there is still time for them to add a terrible ZF 8 speed slushbox into the mix to ruin everything.
Even Mercedes started using 7spd DCTs. I don't know why bmw moved away from them in their performance cars.
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