Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General BMW News and Cars Discussion Recall on some B48 and B46 engines for bearing issue

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-25-2019, 09:07 PM   #23
PackPride85
Major
United_States
745
Rep
1,190
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cfm56d7b View Post
Does BMW manufacturer this part or some other supplier?
I doubt BMW manufactures any single component in the motor itself that they assemble in their factories. Bearing tolerances are so tight in motors today there's not much room for error. This was likely a QC issue at the bearing manf. they didn't catch.
Appreciate 0
      10-25-2019, 09:30 PM   #24
Eau_Rouge111
Lieutenant
Eau_Rouge111's Avatar
Canada
338
Rep
465
Posts

Drives: 2009 128i and 2007 Z4M Coupe
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Mississauga, Canada

iTrader: (0)

BMW and bearing issues...shocker. This coming from someone who owns a car with an S54
Appreciate 0
      10-25-2019, 09:41 PM   #25
chassis
Second Lieutenant
chassis's Avatar
United_States
163
Rep
287
Posts

Drives: BMW G01 X3, M-B GLE350W4
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Indiana

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Unlikely BMW manufacturers the bearings themselves. The thin "shell" bearings.

Engine block, bearing caps and crankshaft are often machined in the engine assembly plant. I know with 100% certainty that some automakers do this, not sure about BMW.

This means the engine is in fact "manufactured" or "produced" or "made" in the engine assembly factory, by virtue of the boring and grinding (metal removing or "machining") operations on site.

Bearing shells are not machined during assembly.

For engines that come from their own engine factories, BMW is responsible for the complete engine design and manufacture, and specification of all subcomponents, such as bearing shells.
Appreciate 0
      10-25-2019, 10:00 PM   #26
M3 Number 86
Major General
2963
Rep
6,093
Posts

Drives: black m3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: pasadena

iTrader: (1)

Nothing new lol
__________________
Appreciate 0
      10-25-2019, 10:34 PM   #27
Bemo
Captain
Bemo's Avatar
United_States
704
Rep
937
Posts

Drives: 911.1 GTS | E92M3 LRP Edition
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Connecticut

iTrader: (0)

Bearing Motoren Werke!
Appreciate 5
      10-26-2019, 02:28 AM   #28
dezzracer
Lieutenant
United_States
323
Rep
459
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 CS
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: The Great Mojave Desert

iTrader: (0)

Bummer. I would not be happy if my new car had to have an engine replaced by a dealer. Nothing is ever as good as factory fresh.
Appreciate 1
Pyrat 21230.50

      10-26-2019, 02:46 AM   #29
hybris
Lieutenant
hybris's Avatar
Norway
143
Rep
417
Posts

Drives: BMW 330e F30 M-sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Norway

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Wonder why only G and not F, I was under the impression it was still the same generation B48 in the G-cars. (?)

EDIT: I see it says B48D and B48C, there's been a technical update then I guess. Did they switch out that part, and end up making it worse than the original one?
__________________
Thorbjorn
16 BMW F30 330e M-sport
Bootmod3 Stage2 / BMS Intake / RM Motors high flow catted downpipe & custom exhaust / BBS CH 19" / H&R Sport springs
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 03:40 AM   #30
romero1990
Private
United_States
14
Rep
99
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, F25 X3
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 M3  [0.00]
aways bearings
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 05:42 AM   #31
CurbBender'90
S
CurbBender'90's Avatar
United_States
24
Rep
417
Posts

Drives: 2010 S65
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: West.Bloom

iTrader: (1)

Some nerve of them, I mean it's the right thing to do but you couldn't do this for THE M3 S65....Shame on them¹
__________________
DCK
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 10:10 AM   #32
F32Fleet
Major General
F32Fleet's Avatar
United_States
1487
Rep
7,852
Posts

Drives: 2015 435i
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Southeastern US

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PackPride85 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfm56d7b View Post
Does BMW manufacturer this part or some other supplier?
I doubt BMW manufactures any single component in the motor itself that they assemble in their factories. Bearing tolerances are so tight in motors today there's not much room for error. This was likely a QC issue at the bearing manf. they didn't catch.
Yep.
__________________
"Drive more, worry less. "

435i, MPPK, MPE, M-Sport Line
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 10:40 AM   #33
SleepingBMW
First Lieutenant
United_States
228
Rep
366
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDM View Post
WOW! You mean BMW is really doing a recall on this? What about the previous bearing issues in e46 M3s and E9X S65 engines from back in the day?
I think it's obvious that bearings in M cars were abused by owners where this is wearing under normal use.
Appreciate 1
clee1982521.00

      10-26-2019, 11:41 AM   #34
530iDriver
Lieutenant Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1037
Rep
1,753
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

What build dates/VINs are actually affected? That's the key guys.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 1
      10-26-2019, 11:55 AM   #35
530iDriver
Lieutenant Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1037
Rep
1,753
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by German1967 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by teapot View Post
Does anybody know if this is for all listed cars, or some of them? I'm expecting G20 delivery in the next few days.
Not all vehicles. If affected you will be notified.
How do you know this?

Why all this madness and no a single credible source posting an affected VIN/Build date range?
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 01:58 PM   #36
German1967
Lieutenant
German1967's Avatar
United_States
214
Rep
521
Posts

Drives: 2015 M235xi - 2020 Z4 M40i
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by German1967 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by teapot View Post
Does anybody know if this is for all listed cars, or some of them? I'm expecting G20 delivery in the next few days.
Not all vehicles. If affected you will be notified.
How do you know this?

Why all this madness and no a single credible source posting an affected VIN/Build date range?
Attached is the corresponding note to the dealerships. Some folks in Germany have contacted their dealers and this internal memo seems legit.

It primarily refers to a delivery stop of not yet delivered cars. Delivered cars are to be called in for service. So, I presume you will get contacted if your car has already been delivered and is impacted.

But I agree, unless there is a documented case or clarity how many cars might be impacted, no need to get nervous.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Hoc Lapidem Non Vi Sed Saepe Cadendo!
Appreciate 1
clee1982521.00

      10-26-2019, 02:45 PM   #37
classyfast
Colonel
613
Rep
2,189
Posts

Drives: e36m/e46m/E92 LCI 335/f30 335
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Terrible and expected
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 07:29 PM   #38
530iDriver
Lieutenant Colonel
530iDriver's Avatar
United_States
1037
Rep
1,753
Posts

Drives: 2017 BMW 530i
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by German1967 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by 530iDriver View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by German1967 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by teapot View Post
Does anybody know if this is for all listed cars, or some of them? I'm expecting G20 delivery in the next few days.
Not all vehicles. If affected you will be notified.
How do you know this?

Why all this madness and no a single credible source posting an affected VIN/Build date range?
Attached is the corresponding note to the dealerships. Some folks in Germany have contacted their dealers and this internal memo seems legit.

It primarily refers to a delivery stop of not yet delivered cars. Delivered cars are to be called in for service. So, I presume you will get contacted if your car has already been delivered and is impacted.

But I agree, unless there is a documented case or clarity how many cars might be impacted, no need to get nervous.
Sounds like a recent batch of produced cars.
__________________
2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more".

Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
Appreciate 0
      10-26-2019, 07:54 PM   #39
TheBingoBalls
Brigadier General
Canada
924
Rep
3,293
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Doesn't seem like it's a huge issue in terms of number of VIN's affected. Recall/stop delivery was initiated some time at the beginning of October and at that time, only 23 Canadian G20 VIN's were affected in all of Canada which is relative low considering the number of G20's that have been sold and are currently available in stock.
Appreciate 2
clee1982521.00
530iDriver1036.50

      10-26-2019, 08:30 PM   #40
Johnnyib
New Member
36
Rep
9
Posts

Drives: 03 E39 540i M-sport,E36 M3
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SF Bay

iTrader: (0)

Here is more official info for you guys.

PDF's attached for mobile viewers who can't see attachments
Attached Images
File Type: pdf 2019-G20-29-EngineCounterbalanceShafts-QA-(9Oct2019)[81f33e1b].pdf (48.2 KB, 326 views)
File Type: pdf B111119[81f33e1c].pdf (16.8 KB, 264 views)
File Type: pdf B111119_Recall_Notice[81f33e1d].pdf (34.8 KB, 365 views)
__________________
Johnny Ibrahim
BMW OF ROSEVILLE
Client Advisor
Appreciate 2
CSBM51252.50
Arnieg4.50

      10-26-2019, 08:43 PM   #41
agentorange
Lieutenant
United_States
173
Rep
487
Posts

Drives: 328d
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Desert SW

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Q6. How will my vehicle be repaired?
The engine will be replaced for free and will take several hours.
Of course, your service advisor will just pull a new one off the shelf from right next to the pile of diesel EGR coolers. Wait...what!?
Appreciate 1
pdegene313.00

      10-27-2019, 03:37 AM   #42
F30lolz
I can haz cheezburger?
F30lolz's Avatar
United_States
2842
Rep
2,152
Posts

Drives: 09 335i/11 CTS Coupe/15 428 GC
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 428 GC  [0.00]
2009 335i  [0.00]
2011 CTS Coupe  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom7835 View Post
They increased the warranty length for timing guides/chain, my X1 has been increased to 7y/125k according to my dealer
Did a quick search and didnít see anything that the warranty has been extended. Will talk to my local dealers to verify this.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaptorKTM View Post
So there is actually more of a chance to get more hp out of a 330 then a 335 in my opinion
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 08:34 AM   #43
bryanyoung
New Member
0
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: BMW G30 530i
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: CHINA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyib View Post
Here is more official info for you guys.

PDF's attached for mobile viewers who can't see attachments
How about the 5series G30. My 530i has been made in 3rd Sep. And I dont pick the car from the salestore.what should i do if the car will be recalled ?
Appreciate 0
      10-27-2019, 08:42 AM   #44
zswickliffe
Private
32
Rep
55
Posts

Drives: BMW 330i xDrive Wagon (F31)
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Somewhere

iTrader: (0)

Subscribing to this for future info. Interested to see if f-series is affected.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:01 PM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST