(Map view) Live cockpit professional vs Audi virtual cockpit

47yellow · 09-01-2021, 04:14 PM

I was playing around with my 330e live cockpit display the other day. Normally I have adaptive cruise on with the screen to show lane control and distance.

But the other day I switched on the map view and I started to compare map view with my wife's TT.

The TT's screen is brighter due to the use of colour but in map view the speed is smaller. The map looks cartoonish and I struggle to understand lane position and roundabout exit.

I really like the BMW map view. It's simple and easier to follow. I find it easier to read the road and follow directions.

Does anyone else use the map view on their cockpit?

willougs · 09-01-2021, 04:57 PM

I dont tend to use it as normally have the active cruise stuff there, but vaguely recall it was just a monochrome rough outline of roads nearby, with pretty much zero detail?

xenon · 09-02-2021, 12:16 AM

I prefer the Audi live cockpit

Charlie (Wessex) · 09-02-2021, 02:56 AM

I have to say that I find that the BMW one is utter rubbish, so lacking in detail, that it is nigh on useless - that's the live map bit. To be totally frank, I find the cockpit to be pretty weak as far too cluttered with awful fonts/graphics. I hardly ever look at it TBH, as HUD does all I need.

xenon · 09-02-2021, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie (Wessex)

I have to say that I find that the BMW one is utter rubbish, so lacking in detail, that it is nigh on useless.

Agreed. It's like an etch-a-sketch compared to the Audi live cockpit.

Charlie (Wessex) · 09-02-2021, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

Agreed. It's like an etch-a-sketch compared to the Audi live cockpit.

Had a Golf R before, and that had a live cockpit, which I guess is either the same or a forerunner of the Audi one (but without the satellite view). Never had the map there (not least as it only showed OEM satnav) and I tended to use Waze

paulockenden · 09-02-2021, 04:20 AM

I like the BMW one and it's lack of detail, albeit I use it in the HUD rather than the console. It just gives the shape of the roads without any extraneous and distracting detail, and that's perfect for me. If I need more detail at any point I can just glance at the big screen, but I hardly ever need to.

marksandygill · 09-02-2021, 04:37 AM

Definitely prefer the BMW over Audi, the whole point of the map is that it's meant to be simple and easy to read and not lead to sensory overload!

And the introduction of satellite imagery is even more OTT, especially while you're trying to concentrate on driving...

SilverGrey · 09-02-2021, 04:45 AM

I like it. It’s particularly useful when navigating to somewhere I’ve not been before whilst driving in busy traffic. It’s clean and uncluttered.

xenon · 09-02-2021, 05:06 AM

The points about the BMW map being uncluttered are fair ones.

chrisnoy · 09-02-2021, 05:07 AM

Yes, really like it, the uncluttered theme is good.

09-02-2021, 05:32 AM

I have never owned a BMW before but I do like the layout of the display.. the map is clean and tidy just gives you the detail you want.

Stu

willougs · 09-02-2021, 05:35 AM

I must have a setting not set correctly then, or we are talking about different things. I was talking about the mini map that sits between the speedo and rev/power meter on the main dash?
On mine, when that's displayed and not the cruise stuff, I just get some vague grey lines that are supposed to resemble nearby roads. That's it, other detail at all. I dont find that remotely useful.

And definitely don't have option to display that in the HUD. That only displays anything map like when I have a destination programmed into sat nav.

Have no problems with the map in the iDrive screen. Find thats pretty good.

Charlie (Wessex) · 09-02-2021, 05:37 AM

willougs I'm in your camp.

225 · 09-02-2021, 07:33 AM

Not really bothered by it as have the big screen on the left for details and the HUD for directions.
Only going by pictures but the Audi screen does look good.
Looks like they have made the speedo and rev counter even worse in ID8 as well.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/03/15/b...inment-system/

What annoys me is not being able to see what gear you are in via HUD when in manual mode. It's not too hard to remember but still would be nice also a proper rev counter.

Charlie (Wessex) · 09-02-2021, 01:56 PM

Paid a bit more attention to it today. If a route is being used, then I do think its OK and the simplicity is clear. When no route is input, its rubbish.

But having said that, when a route is put in, then HUD is better. So overall, the center dash is useless.

09-01-2021, 04:14 PM	#1
47yellow New Member 16 Rep 18 Posts Drives: Golf GTD, Mercedes C class Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	(Map view) Live cockpit professional vs Audi virtual cockpit I was playing around with my 330e live cockpit display the other day. Normally I have adaptive cruise on with the screen to show lane control and distance. But the other day I switched on the map view and I started to compare map view with my wife's TT. The TT's screen is brighter due to the use of colour but in map view the speed is smaller. The map looks cartoonish and I struggle to understand lane position and roundabout exit. I really like the BMW map view. It's simple and easier to follow. I find it easier to read the road and follow directions. Does anyone else use the map view on their cockpit?
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09-01-2021, 04:57 PM	#2
willougs Captain 267 Rep 861 Posts Drives: BMW 330e Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Southampton iTrader: (0)	I dont tend to use it as normally have the active cruise stuff there, but vaguely recall it was just a monochrome rough outline of roads nearby, with pretty much zero detail? __________________ '21 BMW 330e xDrive ///M Sport For cheaper charging, switch to Octopus Energy using this link and get £50 free credit
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09-02-2021, 12:16 AM	#3
xenon Major General 1397 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	I prefer the Audi live cockpit
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09-02-2021, 02:56 AM	#4
Charlie (Wessex) Captain 289 Rep 922 Posts Drives: G21 M340i Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New Forest, UK iTrader: (0)	I have to say that I find that the BMW one is utter rubbish, so lacking in detail, that it is nigh on useless - that's the live map bit. To be totally frank, I find the cockpit to be pretty weak as far too cluttered with awful fonts/graphics. I hardly ever look at it TBH, as HUD does all I need. __________________ e36 325tds (1996-2001), e39 530d Touring (2001-2011), e61 535d (2011-2018), Golf 7.5R Estate (2018-2021), g21 M340i (2021- ) Last edited by Charlie (Wessex); 09-02-2021 at 03:03 AM..
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09-02-2021, 04:20 AM	#7
paulockenden Major 575 Rep 1,220 Posts Drives: 330e xDrive Touring Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: South Coast iTrader: (0)	I like the BMW one and it's lack of detail, albeit I use it in the HUD rather than the console. It just gives the shape of the roads without any extraneous and distracting detail, and that's perfect for me. If I need more detail at any point I can just glance at the big screen, but I hardly ever need to.
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09-02-2021, 04:37 AM	#8
marksandygill First Lieutenant 240 Rep 388 Posts Drives: G20 320d xDrive F22 M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Definitely prefer the BMW over Audi, the whole point of the map is that it's meant to be simple and easy to read and not lead to sensory overload! And the introduction of satellite imagery is even more OTT, especially while you're trying to concentrate on driving... __________________ Current: G20 320d xDrive F22 M240i Previous: Many, many boring BMWs, 116d (F20), 220d, M240i (F22), 318d (F30), 320d (F30 and G20), 330e (G20), 420i (F32), 420d (F32), 435d GC (F36)
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09-02-2021, 04:45 AM	#9
SilverGrey Lieutenant 126 Rep 417 Posts Drives: BMW 330i M Sport Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Chestefield, England iTrader: (0)	I like it. It’s particularly useful when navigating to somewhere I’ve not been before whilst driving in busy traffic. It’s clean and uncluttered.
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09-02-2021, 05:06 AM	#10
xenon Major General 1397 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	The points about the BMW map being uncluttered are fair ones. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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09-02-2021, 05:07 AM	#11
chrisnoy Private 11 Rep 80 Posts Drives: bmw 330e 2020 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (0)	Yes, really like it, the uncluttered theme is good.
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09-02-2021, 05:32 AM	#12
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09-02-2021, 05:35 AM	#13
willougs Captain 267 Rep 861 Posts Drives: BMW 330e Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Southampton iTrader: (0)	I must have a setting not set correctly then, or we are talking about different things. I was talking about the mini map that sits between the speedo and rev/power meter on the main dash? On mine, when that's displayed and not the cruise stuff, I just get some vague grey lines that are supposed to resemble nearby roads. That's it, other detail at all. I dont find that remotely useful. And definitely don't have option to display that in the HUD. That only displays anything map like when I have a destination programmed into sat nav. Have no problems with the map in the iDrive screen. Find thats pretty good. __________________ '21 BMW 330e xDrive ///M Sport For cheaper charging, switch to Octopus Energy using this link and get £50 free credit
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Charlie (Wessex) Captain 289 Rep 922 Posts Drives: G21 M340i Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New Forest, UK iTrader: (0)	willougs I'm in your camp. __________________ e36 325tds (1996-2001), e39 530d Touring (2001-2011), e61 535d (2011-2018), Golf 7.5R Estate (2018-2021), g21 M340i (2021- )
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09-02-2021, 07:33 AM	#15
225 Brigadier General 2281 Rep 4,933 Posts Drives: 340i Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	Not really bothered by it as have the big screen on the left for details and the HUD for directions. Only going by pictures but the Audi screen does look good. Looks like they have made the speedo and rev counter even worse in ID8 as well. https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/03/15/b...inment-system/ What annoys me is not being able to see what gear you are in via HUD when in manual mode. It's not too hard to remember but still would be nice also a proper rev counter.
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09-02-2021, 01:56 PM	#16
Charlie (Wessex) Captain 289 Rep 922 Posts Drives: G21 M340i Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: New Forest, UK iTrader: (0)	Paid a bit more attention to it today. If a route is being used, then I do think its OK and the simplicity is clear. When no route is input, its rubbish. But having said that, when a route is put in, then HUD is better. So overall, the center dash is useless. __________________ e36 325tds (1996-2001), e39 530d Touring (2001-2011), e61 535d (2011-2018), Golf 7.5R Estate (2018-2021), g21 M340i (2021- )
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