[colas0919]

Called my SA yesterday and asked him about the status of the transport of my 2023 330i. He said my car finished production in Germany and will be coming over from Europe. But I know all 3 series cars for the NA market are produced in Mexico. Am I mistaken or is my SA misinforming me?

[PrezRoosevelt]

Originally Posted by colas0919

Called my SA yesterday and asked him about the status of the transport of my 2023 330i. He said my car finished production in Germany and will be coming over from Europe. But I know all 3 series cars for the NA market are produced in Mexico. Am I mistaken or is my SA misinforming me?

Depends, do you have certain options which needed approval or custom paint requests? I'm not sure if this is still the case but I believe dravit Grey or tanz blue cars still comes from Germany but this might be outdated information.

[mondayze]

Originally Posted by colas0919

Called my SA yesterday and asked him about the status of the transport of my 2023 330i. He said my car finished production in Germany and will be coming over from Europe. But I know all 3 series cars for the NA market are produced in Mexico. Am I mistaken or is my SA misinforming me?

Does your vin begin with a 3 or a W

[colas0919]

Originally Posted by mondayze

Does your vin begin with a 3 or a W

My VIN starts with a 3

[Tron-M3]

Originally Posted by colas0919

My VIN starts with a 3

Then your car is Manufactured in Mexico....

[colas0919]

Originally Posted by Tron-M3

Then your car is Manufactured in Mexico....

Then i guess my SA was lying to me

[calbears]

Originally Posted by PrezRoosevelt

Depends, do you have certain options which needed approval or custom paint requests? I'm not sure if this is still the case but I believe dravit Grey or tanz blue cars still comes from Germany but this might be outdated information.

Incorrect. All 3 series (with the exception of the M3) for the US market are built in Mexico. There are no German allocations for the 3 series for the US, thus no individual (real, approval process) paints are available. Individual paint is coming to Mexico built cars, but unknown time frame.

[PrezRoosevelt]

Originally Posted by calbears

Incorrect. All 3 series (with the exception of the M3) for the US market are built in Mexico. There are no German allocations for the 3 series for the US, thus no individual (real, approval process) paints are available. Individual paint is coming to Mexico built cars, but unknown time frame.

Might have been a recent change. My car's from Germany.

[Bc2005]

If you already have a VIN, just go online and check the status yourself. Or call the toll free number and use the VIN. It not an extremely granular status (might stay in one stage quite a while), but it’s simple to check.

Most SAs aren’t interested enough to want to track your car carefully.

[bmwdriver77]

This happened to me as well. My advisor said originally that my 330e was being made in Germany, but the VIN decoder here (https://www.nhtsa.gov/vin-decoder) indicated Mexico...

[calbears]

Originally Posted by PrezRoosevelt

Might have been a recent change. My car's from Germany.

Starting with MY23

[LPTyler]

Maybe not lying but misinformed? My experience is a lot of SAs really don’t know that much about the cars they sell or the ordering process. This blows my mind, but it seems to be. The way it is.

[TurtleBoy]

It seems many CA's, and other dealer personnel, are confused about where the 3 Series is being built. Prior to this year there were two different groups of allocations for the 3 Series, one with an NA in the description for those built in Mexico and the other without it meaning Germany. Since all production for the US market was moved to Mexico there was no need for the NA in the description so that is gone. Unfortunately many look at that and believe the vehicle is being built in Germany.

[TheMaxXHD]

If you ordering from the US, unless in super rare cases (super custom order usually), your 3 series sedan is being built and shipped from Mexico.
Almost all 3 series sedan production for the US comes from that plant now.
If you are from Canada, it appears like its a mix of Mexico or Germany, but hard to tell, probably to relieve the Mexico plant to focusing just on US, given Canada is a smaller market.

I don't know why the rumor of US 3 series sedan coming from Germany is a thing. I think it's people being confused about some Canadian production coming from Germany, and M3 production.
It is not true in 95% of all cases it seems for the US. The US market is just too large to be serviced by BMW's factories in Germany.
Indeed, the 3 series sedan for the US has not been mass produced in Germany for YEARS. I think there were a few more cases than there are now of Germany -> US, but not crazy amounts.
Before the Mexico plant, most US production came from South Africa for the regular 3 series sedans.

Edit: I think, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, the E90 generation is when they started to flip US production from Germany to Rosslyn (SA) in substantial amounts.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

If you ordering from the US, unless in super rare cases (super custom order usually), your 3 series sedan is being built and shipped from Mexico.
Almost all 3 series sedan production for the US comes from that plant now. .

As mentioned above, this is not correct. No 3 Series vehicles for the US are produced in Germany anymore effective at the beginning of MY23, they all come from Mexico. Currently Individual orders for the 3 Series are not available.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

As mentioned above, this is not correct. No 3 Series vehicles for the US are produced in Germany anymore effective at the beginning of MY23, they all come from Mexico. Currently Individual orders for the 3 Series are not available.

Ah, then I guess that means 0. Like I said, I think people are getting confused with some Canadian orders that are being serviced by Germany in some quantities, or M3 production (which comes from Germany I believe).

The point being, and I think you and I are both on the same page here, at present anyway, there is no evidence to support that people are or will have their MY2023 orders from the US being built in Germany. Of course they can chose to flip production around at any given time, but at present, if you are ordering a US 3 series sedan, minus M3, you are getting it built from Mexico

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Ah, then I guess that means 0. Like I said, I think people are getting confused with some Canadian orders that are being serviced by Germany in some quantities, or M3 production (which comes from Germany I believe).

The problem is not people getting confused but rather dealers getting confused and passing along bad information. The allocation description changed this year and it is the same as the one used last year for the German built 3 Series.

I asked my Sales Manager if he is getting any allocations for German 3 Series. He says he didn't notice the change but there are no NA allocations this year so all 3 Series are being built in Germany. I let him know what that change was and why and he said "Oh, that makes sense". I believe the same thing is happening at other dealers given the information our members here are getting.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The problem is not people getting confused but rather dealers getting confused and passing along bad information. The allocation description changed this year and it is the same as the one used last year for the German built 3 Series.

I asked my Sales Manager if he is getting any allocations for German 3 Series. He says he didn't notice the change but there are no NA allocations this year so all 3 Series are being built in Germany. I let him know what that change was and why and he said "Oh, that makes sense".

Crazy that dealerships don't know what is going on, because they should if they cared enough to go find. It might require some digging, but I know they can find out these answers if they wanted to.

My CA told me upon ordering, in clear direct terms and correctly, that all 3 series production is now coming out of the San Luis Potosi plant in Mexico.

Also, in case people were confused about this too, a 3 series BMW built in Germany is not anymore different than a BMW built in Mexico. It will be the same quality. It is built all the same way using the same parts. Really the differences lie in the options provided by your market, which can vary.

[sizeej]

They simply do not know. My SA told me about the NA falling off so they believed the car was coming from Germany but after seeing VINs of the MY23, its apparent they are still from Germany, they just too the NA off the ordering #.

[AP]

Yeh the vin is the definitive answer.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by sizeej

They simply do not know. My SA told me about the NA falling off so they believed the car was coming from Germany but after seeing VINs of the MY23, its apparent they are still from Germany, they just too the NA off the ordering #.

I think you meant not from Germany.

[sizeej]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I think you meant not from Germany.

yes... thank you.