[tn1krr]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

I don't think the car reports that info anywhere. If someone knows how to get it, I'd be happy to look it up for you.

The kWh/100 km average value is shown in the "Journey Data" when car is in pure Electric mode; at least if the units etc. are configured as they are in my car.

I do my daily commuting 100% purely in electric mode and I'm averaging about 24-25 kWh/100 km. This is with constant heating in temperatures at around 0 celsius (+/-5 degress) in mixed driving. I do Climatize before unplugging from 8 A charging. I can get 40-45 km per charge in constant higway speeds, but 50 km per charge is not gonna happen as long as heating is needed, maybe in summer in case neither heating or cooling is needed.

[rf3000]

Originally Posted by tn1krr

The kWh/100 km average value is shown in the "Journey Data" when car is in pure Electric mode; at least if the units etc. are configured as they are in my car.

I do my daily commuting 100% purely in electric mode and I'm averaging about 24-25 kWh/100 km. This is with constant heating in temperatures at around 0 celsius (+/-5 degress) in mixed driving. I do Climatize before unplugging from 8 A charging. I can get 40-45 km per charge in constant higway speeds, but 50 km per charge is not gonna happen as long as heating is needed, maybe in summer in case neither heating or cooling is needed.

Good info tn1krr !

You average 24-25kWh/100km at highway speed? 110-120km/h? That gives a 40km range (with 10kWh effective battery) in pure electric, at low temperature with preheating. Not bad

[ricdanger]

Originally Posted by rf3000

Good info tn1krr !

You average 24-25kWh/100km at highway speed? 110-120km/h? That gives a 40km range (with 10kWh effective battery) in pure electric, at low temperature with preheating. Not bad

From the picture, he's getting 25kWh at 43.8kmh. Not 110-120kmh.

[Cranester1983]

Is there any benefit to preconditioning the vehicle prior to departure other than warming it up a little? Just wondered if there were any efficiency gains to be had by warming up the battery or anything I should be aware of?

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by Cranester1983

Is there any benefit to preconditioning the vehicle prior to departure other than warming it up a little? Just wondered if there were any efficiency gains to be had by warming up the battery or anything I should be aware of?

I'm looking to see if the 330e can really fit my use and driving profile.

I see pre-conditioning for maximum cabin heat and any benefit to the battery capacity, essential for getting maximum range, once on the move.

Will be interesting to read user's experiences.

[tn1krr]

Originally Posted by ricdanger

From the picture, he's getting 25kWh at 43.8kmh. Not 110-120kmh.

That pic was just to show one gets the kWh/100 km Display, grapped the pic earlier today.

The best range (=lowest kWh/100 km) for me comes from "ring road highway" speeds, that is about 90-95 km/h over here with minimal traffic. Unsuprisingly that is the speed you get best mpg from with any car. The higher the average speed the less energy is used to heat the cabin due to less time spent travelling.

About a week ago I drove 36.5 km in -2 degrees celsius, over 80% of which was such ring road speed. Started at 100%, had 27% and 10 km battery left when I arrived home. Given the temp I think that was very good, but there were two things that improved range
1. The car had just been charged in about 3 hours from 10% to 100% in a 3.7 kW charger. This must heat the battery somewhat ==> more range.
2. I did full length Climatization to 22.5 degrees Celsius while still plugged in 3.7 kW charger.

In our current temps (around 0 Celsius) cabin heating affects the range a lot. I stop at the gym for 1.5 hours every other day (practically zero detour due to this) on the way to work in the morning; on those days I have about 20% less battery when I arrive at work when compared to driving non-stop from home with the 330e Climatized while plugged in to 8 amp charger. Climatization while connected to wall has big effect on range as others have noted.

Given what I have learned in about 2.5 weeks I've had the car I'm gonna look for charging point installer next week to get 3.7 kW charging at home and will used time charging so that the battery is charged in the morning hours before I leave for work.

[Falten]

Hi there!

New on the forum, got myself a g20 330e recently (October)
Have been doing some research how to get more distance in electric mode..

Today I preheated and was in 99% battery when driving off. Got 43 km (+Celsius outside )when battery depleted, but the interesting thing was that it sad average consumption was 18.4 kWh/100km, with a battery that I have heard is using 10kwh, shouldn’t the car be able to do 54km? With this calculation 10/18,4*100=54, or am I missing something? Seems that electric consumption should display the real consumption and with 10kwh battery capacity should go longer?

Nice thread and forum that I have following for some time and happy to be a part of it now

Best regards!

[ricdanger]

Originally Posted by Falten

Hi there!

New on the forum, got myself a g20 330e recently (October)
Have been doing some research how to get more distance in electric mode..

Today I preheated and was in 99% battery when driving off. Got 43 km (+Celsius outside )when battery depleted, but the interesting thing was that it sad average consumption was 18.4 kWh/100km, with a battery that I have heard is using 10kwh, shouldn’t the car be able to do 54km? With this calculation 10/18,4*100=54, or am I missing something? Seems that electric consumption should display the real consumption and with 10kwh battery capacity should go longer?

Nice thread and forum that I have following for some time and happy to be a part of it now

Best regards!

Actually, the G20 330e has a 12kWh battery.
As your math does not account for regen you should theoretically get even more than 54.
But a percent of the battery is unusable as it is reserved for battery management (to keep the battery from dieing early) and the car also always keeps some usable capacity to provide full power after battery depletes.
I read somewhere 20% for battery management + 4-6% to keep engines full power (not xtraboost; just the 250hp), so ~9kWh usable.

[ricdanger]

Originally Posted by joselrl

Yeah, I really can't go for the M sport or any other extra, it's corporate edition as is (can choose the metalic paint color, went for black) or I lose the €12k discount and if the car goes over 35000 the company is penalized in other taxes. Just parking sensors is fine, I've been driving a car with no sensors for 5 years now with no problem parking, so I will be fine

M Pack is now free for all the model ranges.
So, even if you get a Corporate Edition, it would get the M pack if you order it now.
(sorry for this brief offtopic)

Today I made a 110km trip fully charged, and got 4.9 l/100.

[Falten]

Originally Posted by ricdanger

Actually, the G20 330e has a 12kWh battery.
As your math does not account for regen you should theoretically get even more than 54.
But a percent of the battery is unusable as it is reserved for battery management (to keep the battery from dieing early) and the car also always keeps some usable capacity to provide full power after battery depletes.
I read somewhere 20% for battery management + 4-6% to keep engines full power (not xtraboost; just the 250hp), so ~9kWh usable.

Thanks for info, yeah I was meaning 10kwh for use in electric but as you say 9kwh useable it means less range then more with my calculations, then it should be more like 9/18,4*100=49, much more near my actually range..

[joselrl]

I asked the dealership and they said the campaigns weren't cumulative.

Already got it tho, loved it and already had some fun with it in Sport

After that did my first 350+km trip, 140km/h in cruise control with the momentary 150/155 to overtake, started with battery 80%ish, ended with "depleted" (still would go eletric at low speed) Car with 4 people + full trunk



About what I expected, now it's time to charge and 0l/100km

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by joselrl

I asked the dealership and they said the campaigns weren't cumulative.

Already got it tho, loved it and already had some fun with it in Sport

After that did my first 350+km trip, 140km/h in cruise control with the momentary 150/155 to overtake, started with battery 80%ish, ended with "depleted" (still would go eletric at low speed) Car with 4 people + full trunk



About what I expected, now it's time to charge and 0l/100km

Maybe not the best idea to mention the speed in a public forum, considering the speed limits in your country... Just sayin'

[joselrl]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

Maybe not the best idea to mention the speed in a public forum, considering the speed limits in your country... Just sayin'

I mean... I heard people are way more strict with speed limits in your country, don't know if it's true, but here, in the highway I just did, you will see more people over than at/under the speed limit

Several times now I see a police car at the speed limit, people will pass it at +10 without problem. As long as people aren't stupid, weather is fine and the road allows it... Meh

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by joselrl

I mean... I heard people are way more strict with speed limits in your country, don't know if it's true, but here, in the highway I just did, you will see more people over than at/under the speed limit

Several times now I see a police car at the speed limit, people will pass it at +10 without problem. As long as people aren't stupid, weather is fine and the road allows it... Meh

Hahaha, fair enough Here the cops monitor public fora and then you receive a nice surprise if they can prove you've been having too much fun

[dm_86]

Originally Posted by mlcgd21

I drove at 130kmh during 70 klms, the other 15 klms of this trip I did in electric, total average was 4,6 liters/100km and used 15 klms of electric range.

boas sou português também. sabes fazer carregamentos programados no teu carro?

[joselrl]

nunca experimentei, nao tive essa necessidade, mas acho que me lembro de ver no carro a opção para "carregar agora" ou definir uma hora de carregamento quando desligo o carro

Sorry about not talking in english, he was just asking about how to set a time to charge the car

[Cranester1983]

4 days in and had my first experience of some douchebag pulling my charging cable out of the charging unit in a car park. People can be such dicks sometimes.

Thankfully the car end locks the cable in place so they couldn’t nick it!

[joselrl]

Originally Posted by Cranester1983

4 days in and had my first experience of some douchebag pulling my charging cable out of the charging unit in a car park. People can be such dicks sometimes.

Thankfully the car end locks the cable in place so they couldn’t nick it!

The charger doesn't also lock and the other end? Or are we talking about a normal house plug?

[Cranester1983]

Originally Posted by joselrl

The charger doesn't also lock and the other end? Or are we talking about a normal house plug?

It was a public charging point at a car park in Stirling. I thought so too - so messages Charge Place Scotland - they have listed a ticket in case it’s faulty.

[Cranester1983]

So I noticed tonight that it jumps from around 23mile range at 98% charge to 30 miles at 100%. Literally the second I turn car on it’ll drop back to 23/24 mile range. Weird.

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by Cranester1983

So I noticed tonight that it jumps from around 23mile range at 98% charge to 30 miles at 100%. Literally the second I turn car on it’ll drop back to 23/24 mile range. Weird.

You gotta check what the car is actually travelling in electric mode and not pay too much attention to what the app or the initial estimation shows. The car relies on regeneration as well, so it depends on where you drive, how you drive, the mode you use, etc. Some folks discussed it here in detail about 5-6 pages back.

[dxdx]

Recently traded in my 320d F30 2017 for a 330e G20.

Generally pleased with it. Been averaging 5.4 L/100 km, which is on par with my old F30 320d. The hybrid drive really excels in city driving, but can't compete with the 20d on longer highway drives. Especially when cruising at 120+ km/h. If you don't charge it and mostly drive at highway speeds - it is thirsty! It is all about how you drive it...

With my driving style (quite heavy right foot... it's a BMW), I've averaged around 30 km (+/- 5 km) electric range in eco pro mode. In city driving 40 km range is not an issue.

Hopefully the next trade in will be for a fully electric BMW