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      04-16-2020, 01:51 PM   #331
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Ehhhh. Not different enough to warrant an upgrade.
Are you making a determination about how good a car is purely by how it looks in some grainy photos? There are a lot of valid criticisms about the F30/80 generation in terms of driving dynamics. Huge grille notwithstanding, I think the G80 is going to be a much better car overall.
Interior will not be much different from the current g20
Is that a surprise? When has not been the case? The F80 interior was the same way. So because BMW is doing the exact same thing they've always done, the new M3 is not worth the upgrade?
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It looks like no one has posted the following picture - that was an article about the future plans of BMW M in German Sport Auto magazine (3 weeks ago), along with the image of an M4.
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      04-20-2020, 06:27 AM   #333
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It looks like no one has posted the following picture - that was an article about the future plans of BMW M in German Sport Auto magazine (3 weeks ago), along with the image of an M4.
Add black grille surrounds and that'll look pretty good.
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      04-20-2020, 06:57 AM   #334
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Although it's not gonna look like that. The M4 will have a completely different front bumper, bigger headlights and a hood line.
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Updated April 21, 2020

First video footage of the G82 M4 Coupe testing at the Nurburgring.

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Looks very planted !
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I’m hugely excited over the G82’s exterior including and mainly because of the new fresh front end. What dampens this excitement somewhat is the expected interior. Why o why did you not create a sporty interior worthy a coupe for the 4 series as part of this break from the 3 series mold?

This is about as exciting and sexy as a pair of beige grandma panties with worn elastic...

Leaked G22 interior picture:


Yes, this is unfair with a styled, better colors, no mess etc. picture but it doesn’t matter how much you dress up that G20 based interior, it will never feel nearly as special as this. However if we can select a center tachometer like this in the M4 Screen it would go a long way:

I think getting a car that is built with the tachometer is my answer.
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I think getting a car that is built with the tachometer is my answer.
Porsche - there is no substitute.
I have a thing for nice analogue tachometers and this modern interpretation by Porsche is just about perfect. Would a Digital Patek be the same? Hardly. Nice job Porsche keeping that center piece as it should be.
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Looks very planted !
Very! It sounds very good too.
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      04-21-2020, 06:24 PM   #340
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I think getting a car that is built with the tachometer is my answer.
Porsche - there is no substitute.
I have a thing for nice analogue tachometers and this modern interpretation by Porsche is just about perfect. Would a Digital Patek be the same? Hardly. Nice job Porsche keeping that center piece as it should be.
And for having the tach go clockwise.
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Ehhhh. Not different enough to warrant an upgrade.
Are you making a determination about how good a car is purely by how it looks in some grainy photos? There are a lot of valid criticisms about the F30/80 generation in terms of driving dynamics. Huge grille notwithstanding, I think the G80 is going to be a much better car overall.
Interior will not be much different from the current g20
That is super sad imo
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Ehhhh. Not different enough to warrant an upgrade.
Are you making a determination about how good a car is purely by how it looks in some grainy photos? There are a lot of valid criticisms about the F30/80 generation in terms of driving dynamics. Huge grille notwithstanding, I think the G80 is going to be a much better car overall.
Interior will not be much different from the current g20
That is super sad imo
Interiors of the m3/4 have mostly followed that of the non m versions iirc; never much difference other than seats.
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I have commented numerous times on how these these so-called spy shots are more like planned sneak peaks than actual spy shots . . . I mean, some of the most recent spy shots were taken by the 'spy' sitting in the freaking back seat.

At any rate, I am not a business man, but I was recently reading about an apparently well-known marketing strategy based on cognitive behavior. Variably labelled, but commonly referenced as 'Mere Exposure Effect' which is a fancy way of saying 'familiarity breeds content.'

So, at least in my mind, BMW - and many automotive companies alike - seem to intentionally expose the consumer to a new product so that it is accepted before even released. I suspect, more than acceptance, they are after product desirability.

I am really not sure how this strategy, camouflaged as 'spy' work, is working when it comes to the M3 and M4? Admittedly, I generally succumb to changes after variable exposure, however, have yet to find myself accepting of the front snout.

I can say for certain I do not have any particular desire to own what I have seen of the upcoming M3 or M4 iterations over the most recent iterations.

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Ehhhh. Not different enough to warrant an upgrade.
Are you making a determination about how good a car is purely by how it looks in some grainy photos? There are a lot of valid criticisms about the F30/80 generation in terms of driving dynamics. Huge grille notwithstanding, I think the G80 is going to be a much better car overall.
Interior will not be much different from the current g20
That is super sad imo
Interiors of the m3/4 have mostly followed that of the non m versions iirc; never much difference other than seats.
Oops must have misread it.

What you are saying makes complete sense.

I thought what I read was BMW was keeping the new interior like the current design.
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Regarding the M4 on the Nurburgring . . .

I more than like the M3 and M4 offerings. My favorite sporty sedan/coupe on the roadways. However, either the Nurturing is getting smaller, or the M3/4 have gotten too big for the track . . . yes, tongue in cheek, but these awesome BMW offerings belong more and more on the road and less on the track. They have gotten enormous and heavy. Seems perfectly fine, as I suspect some 95%-plus of owners never sniff the track.

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Regarding the M4 on the Nurburgring . . .

I more than like the M3 and M4 offerings. My favorite sporty sedan/coupe on the roadways. However, either the Nurturing is getting smaller, or the M3/4 have gotten too big for the track . . . yes, tongue in cheek, but these awesome BMW offerings belong more and more on the road and less on the track. They have gotten enormous and heavy. Seems perfectly fine, as I suspect some 95%-plus of owners never sniff the track.

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Lol. True, and 95% is a conservative number. I'm guessing 98%?
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Something about the overall shape (front end especially)with the camouflage on there reminds me of a Jag XF as it comes around the corner. Maybe it's the lights. Even the overall size seems similar which is not a good thing.
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Lol. True, and 95% is a conservative number. I'm guessing 98%?
Sabine, in my defense, I did state '95%-plus'

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Something about the overall shape (front end especially)with the camouflage on there reminds me of a Jag XF as it comes around the corner. Maybe it's the lights. Even the overall size seems similar which is not a good thing.
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Why Jaguar Won't Do 'Crude' Big Grilles Like Rivals

Jaguar's Director of Design Julian Thomson has spoken out against rivals' "over-the-top" front ends and has insisted his team won't go down that route"
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Lol. True, and 95% is a conservative number. I'm guessing 98%?
Sabine, in my defense, I did state '95%-plus'

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Something about the overall shape (front end especially)with the camouflage on there reminds me of a Jag XF as it comes around the corner. Maybe it's the lights. Even the overall size seems similar which is not a good thing.
Yep, considering that the XF is a direct competitor to the 5-series.
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Looks very planted !
Yes first thing I noticed, effortless speed!
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