[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

my car likes to get airborne so I put a wing on it. You think it's not functional?

There is a saying about bicycle shorts that is relevant here. The saying goes that you look like a fool in bicycle shorts if you're not within arms length of a bicycle. Big wings are like that... Cool at the track but goofy everyplace else.

[dmboone25]

However, both are over-large, over-elongated and bland.

The new 3er does seem to have more non-functional moronic, styling cues...perhaps that’s noteworthy differentiation.

[DCG]

I don't know what they were thinking with these monsterous concave doorhandles. You think by now BMW's Exterior Design Team and suits can come up with something sleeker. Total fail!

[hans007]

Originally Posted by E46M54325Ci

What I think is interesting is that, at least to me, the G20 looks like more of a successor to the E90 than the F30 does, just as the F10 looks like more of a successor to the E39 than the E60 does.

we can just pretend the F30 and especially the E60 never happened. we can put them in the Rocky movies after 4, and Terminator movies after 2 pile.

.....

and now... the G20, the long overdue replacement for the e90 after 14 years. Sure looks fresh.

[jwong77]

Good grief! You guys find all sorts of stuff to nitpick about. The door handles? Really?!? Come on!

[misterjim]

"Although the new G20 3 Series has grown in size compared to its predecessor, Horn explains that efforts were made to keep this increase to a minimal, so as to represent the 3 Series' as a sports sedan and not as a mini-5 Series."

So why did the new 3-series have to grow in size at all? It seems they are compelled to increase the size every generation. The f30 is already plenty big enough!

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by misterjim

So why did the new 3-series have to grow in size at all? It seems they are compelled to increase the size every generation. The f30 is already plenty big enough!

So it will have sufficient differentiation once the 2 Series Gran Coupe and/or 1 Series sedan arrive in the showroom.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by misterjim

"Although the new G20 3 Series has grown in size compared to its predecessor, Horn explains that efforts were made to keep this increase to a minimal, so as to represent the 3 Series' as a sports sedan and not as a mini-5 Series."

So why did the new 3-series have to grow in size at all? It seems they are compelled to increase the size every generation. The f30 is already plenty big enough!

More stringent safety and crash regulations. You want that car to ace all NHTSA, IIHS and Euro NCAP? Crash tests they throw at it? there you have it.

That car has to be heavier and bigger than the previous generation.

[hans007]

Originally Posted by misterjim

"Although the new G20 3 Series has grown in size compared to its predecessor, Horn explains that efforts were made to keep this increase to a minimal, so as to represent the 3 Series' as a sports sedan and not as a mini-5 Series."

So why did the new 3-series have to grow in size at all? It seems they are compelled to increase the size every generation. The f30 is already plenty big enough!

I think the answer is the a4 is bigger and has more leg room...

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

There is a saying about bicycle shorts that is relevant here. The saying goes that you look like a fool in bicycle shorts if you're not within arms length of a bicycle. Big wings are like that... Cool at the track but goofy everyplace else.

I mean for car show guys yes but not for track rats. We're different. You should see the front end you might have a heart attack lol

I do take it off for the street but too lazy. I know it's ridiculous haha

Buuttt...my car has track mods only so it all goes together. Seats, once had a welded half cage, sunroof delete, no carpet, front and rear aero, bbk, coilovers, hood vents, etc. my mods are at least fully functional and 100% used. Not like pedestrian show cars with mods that make the car actually handle worse.

And something to be said about the guy in bike shorts who can pull it off nowhere near a bike

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

There is a saying about bicycle shorts that is relevant here. The saying goes that you look like a fool in bicycle shorts if you're not within arms length of a bicycle. Big wings are like that... Cool at the track but goofy everyplace else.

Actually bicycle shorts look ridiculous on a bike, off it, near it, or far.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Fuller

Actually bicycle shorts look ridiculous on a bike, off it, near it, or far.

As a former competitive cyclist I can confirm there are plenty of situations where you'd look like a fool if you're not wearing bicycle shorts.

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

As a former competitive cyclist I can confirm there are plenty of situations where you'd look like a fool if you're not wearing bicycle shorts.

I know, it was just a bad attempt at humor.

[ScottAndrew]

Originally Posted by misterjim

"Although the new G20 3 Series has grown in size compared to its predecessor, Horn explains that efforts were made to keep this increase to a minimal, so as to represent the 3 Series' as a sports sedan and not as a mini-5 Series."

So why did the new 3-series have to grow in size at all? It seems they are compelled to increase the size every generation. The f30 is already plenty big enough!

Been happening since the war. Not just the safety aspect, but people just want more, more, more. They're fatter, too, on the whole.

[Tallest]

Yeah it looks NOTHING like G30. They need to stop drinking their own cool aid. If it didnt look like G30, we would be saying it, not them. BMW marketing people.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Fuller

I know, it was just a bad attempt at humor.

It was pretty funny

[lancerr]

Originally Posted by upsidedownfunnel

Here's a good comparison video of the G20 vs the G30. I think overall the G20 looks better and a better representation of the future BMW styling cues. The G30 will look older faster like the F10.

Thanks for posting this. These two look very similar as an overall package in this video unless you focus on individual design elements.

[cdgatti]

Originally Posted by hans007

we can just pretend the F30 and especially the E60 never happened. we can put them in the Rocky movies after 4, and Terminator movies after 2 pile.

.....

and now... the G20, the long overdue replacement for the e90 after 14 years. Sure looks fresh.

Isn't is just 7-8 years after the E90??

[hans007]

Originally Posted by cdgatti

Isn't is just 7-8 years after the E90??

oh haha true. i mean the end of the start of the e90 i guess. so 14 years between new designs I guess. Since the e90 would have been on the market for 14 years in my alternate universe

[nozydog]

Originally Posted by Darkfleet

I like the design overall,but the tailights are gonna be hard to get used to. they should've done something like this.

They will, with the 2022 facelift!!

[nozydog]

The 3 and 5 have looked pretty different to me for at least the last three generations now (see very helpful persons post above with loads of pics) so why make a deal about wanting the new G20 to look different from the G30??

As for them wanting to keep it as compact as possible... well they’ve failed, it’s now over 4.7 metres long... hardly ‘compact’!!

[raysspl]

Well that's good to know