[low135]

Originally Posted by icpee

So much hurt in this post, i can almost feel it.

Alot of you live in the past. Hardly anyone has accepted the fact that times change and so do companies visions and priorities.
The BMW of yesterday with hoffmeister kink, angel eyes etc. is just that. The BMW of 'Yesterday'. People like yourself have a very hard time moving on from that.

Half these threads are people moaning about the design. It's not going to change and the moaning won't make BMW change their vision or pull the launch to rework the design.

The majority of potential customers don't frequent these boards or forums. They will buy anything BMW puts a badge on so you 'boycotting' a new M3 makes no difference. There will be thousands more lining up to buy one on launch day.

I'm sure there was guys on Rennlist saying the same thing about the 996. Look how that turned out.

[lochview]

Truly awful front end and the ACC sensor could have been so much better executed on that (hate the fact it isn't symmetrical). They could have split the sensor either side of the central part of the lower grill just to make it look slightly better and easier on the eye for the OCD folks out there.

As a few others have said a bit bugs bunny like front end. The rear isn't much better either.

Having had a 435d M Sport GC in the past, I can't help think they have missed the middle ground and should have come up with a better more appealing grill and rear profile to keep the enthusiasts happy while making it slightly more angular and modern.

Real pity and it certainly won't be on my radar in the near future.

More likely to be an X5 M50i for my next ride stepping up from my X3 M40i currently which is a blast with the rather excellent B58 engine (even with the filter slightly muting the exhaust growls and burbles)... oh well!

[OF Hero]

That rear fender arch!

[MammothGarden6]

Originally Posted by icpee

So much hurt in this post, i can almost feel it.

Alot of you live in the past. Hardly anyone has accepted the fact that times change and so do companies visions and priorities.
The BMW of yesterday with hoffmeister kink, angel eyes etc. is just that. The BMW of 'Yesterday'. People like yourself have a very hard time moving on from that.

Half these threads are people moaning about the design. It's not going to change and the moaning won't make BMW change their vision or pull the launch to rework the design.

The majority of potential customers don't frequent these boards or forums. They will buy anything BMW puts a badge on so you 'boycotting' a new M3 makes no difference. There will be thousands more lining up to buy one on launch day.

This! Thank you. Every time I get on here its seems to be 99% of y'all are just bitching. Slews of negative posts are not going to change how it is.

[See5]

From a purely style basis, if Cadillac dropped a car with a front end like this there would be 100% dissent by this section.

[evo-mike]

Um...(internal monologue: my mom says if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.)

...the wheels are pretty sick and they're still using Michelins so that's a plus

[Ftpohyeah]

The F8x m3/4 really dont look that good either. It feels real svelte. At least the m2c has a better blend of mean and lean. The g80 front end looks more aggressive, even while camouflaged. Im sure the rear end of the car will also look better, stronger than the outgoing generation.

[dappercivility]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

This is basically Stockholm syndrome

Depends on how you look at the matter. But it will be really interesting to see what the sales figures are like when it goes into production and sale.

[G80indy]

Wow , not in a good way

[Doctor///M]

To think we'll be subject to 6 years of this car... no convincing is going to help Bimmerpost.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by dappercivility

Depends on how you look at the matter. But it will be really interesting to see what the sales figures are like when it goes into production and sale.

Honestly I assume sales will be fine. I'll be keeping an eye on them from my F90 though.

[SteveinArizona]

To quote Adlai Stevenson: "Hell will freeze over" before I buy one of these.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Agreed

I think my OGM2 looks more aggressive than this

Clean and classy sir! LOVE IT!

[Lighting.Grey]

That cruise control radar looks like is in the left side of the grill, it will be so ugly when you have your license plate installed, it just doesn't come together. They should fire the guy who designed this thing.

[Sim simma f80]

Originally Posted by V-Eight

In my opinion the problem is not the grille at thi point, is the shape of the snorkel be side it.

I made a fast PS of a different kind of it, that takes inspiration from the M2. In my opinion, the result is much better. It gives a good value to the grille itself, and makes the front even more dynamic and aggressive.

what do you think?

https://ibb.co/NL7Xht8

Thats a no bro! lol

[F85MTuNED]

Originally Posted by duky

To design a new generation of a car that will

• get thousands of people to spend over $70,000 of their hard earned cash
• get many more thousands of people including adults and kids to want it, buy posters of it, like it on social media, etc.
• get reviewers/critics to rave about it
• excite and keep people talking about it for over half a decade
• be faster and more fuel efficient than its predecessor
• be more comfortable than it's predecessor
• be at least as engaging to drive as it's predecessor
• have better, easier to use tech than it's predecessor
• be safer than its predecessor
• not be too similar to its predecessor
• be differentiated from its competitors and beat them in head-to-heads without knowing what the competitors will be like
• not be too different from its predecessor to avoid inflaming the loyalists/early adopters
• maintain some core ethos of what makes an M car an M car
• not be too much heavier than it's predecessor

Yeah I think it's pretty hard and I think they have consistently done it quite well historically so why don't we trust them a bit to deliver again

Thank you sir!

Side note: I can't wait to watch majority of these guys change their minds, I swear it will be comedy.. better than a Chappelle Netflix special ��

[SCOTT26]

It's going to be all kinds of awesome. Aggressive is not just in its appearance.
Although I will probably post one day "It's been like 4 years...Get Over it!"

[MFNATIK]

He's alive! ����

[gemini.m3]

Jury still out for me personally.

What if the "Pure" model with manual and lesser HP retains the G20 grills? If they were smart, they would do that.. that way they can go back on this design but still give people that want to be daring the opportunity to get the full blown grill with the competition model? Seems like an easy way to satisfy both sides of the opinion on this - just a thought.

That said, I will be looking at the reveal closely to make a final determination - I love my 18 f80 ZCP.. 6k miles, full PPF, just babied -- lease expires right around when these will be out -- it'll be a tough choice, but I think having a non molested low mile and well conserved f80 might trump this new model, at least until LCI -- but having the option either way is great.

[saphire240]

sold.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by deceptiv.M3

Jury still out for me personally.

What if the "Pure" model with manual and lesser HP retains the G20 grills? If they were smart, they would do that.. that way they can go back on this design but still give people that want to be daring the opportunity to get the full blown grill with the competition model? Seems like an easy way to satisfy both sides of the opinion on this - just a thought.

That said, I will be looking at the reveal closely to make a final determination - I love my 18 f80 ZCP.. 6k miles, full PPF, just babied -- lease expires right around when these will be out -- it'll be a tough choice, but I think having a non molested low mile and well conserved f80 might trump this new model, at least until LCI -- but having the option either way is great.

LOL at that comment. I makes no economical sense to do that

[Law]

Originally Posted by deceptiv.M3

Jury still out for me personally.

What if the "Pure" model with manual and lesser HP retains the G20 grills? If they were smart, they would do that.. that way they can go back on this design but still give people that want to be daring the opportunity to get the full blown grill with the competition model? Seems like an easy way to satisfy both sides of the opinion on this - just a thought.

It's because they wanted to be smart that they didn't waste engineering expenses to re-engineer the entire front end that we're still able to have a 4-door M3 with a manual transmission.

Even though it seems simple but a hypothetical redesign specifically for G80 M3 would only share, at most, the headlights & grilles with the G20.
It makes zero sense to re-engineer a new front clip/front assembly (i.e., safety, aerodynamics, cooling, components placement) and have a different production process beginning with differentiating the design process all the way to differentiating the automated processes on the assembly line.

In other words, it'd be a new independent design exercise and process that is separate from the M4.
And since the 2-door version of the M3/M4 has typically outsold its 4-door variants, there isn't even enough sales numbers to justify an independent new design for the 4-door.