[gofast182]

Originally Posted by Vmaxx

I can’t believe BMW would change such a pronounced characteristic of the car without even notifying customers or an official announcement. What happened to this being a car for enthusiasts??

To be fair it still burbles and pops just not as much. It no longer does it just when lifting off the throttle and the transmission shifts more readily to higher gears than it used to. Still, I liked that character of the car and wish it wasn't taken away.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by jbarba

This could be true for id7, but in id6 are idrive and ilevel bundled together? Currently im on ilevel SA18A-20-07-560 and idrive version O2014C1R

I wasn’t aware that any G series vehicles were running id6. What year/model do you have?

[jbarba]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I wasn't aware that any G series vehicles were running id6. What year/model do you have?

Prior to july 2020, in EU only G series with professional cockpit had id7 (post july 2020 all G series has id7). My G21 320i was built on 2020/02 and has cockpit plus.

[Mr.G20 M340]

Originally Posted by Vmaxx

I can't believe BMW would change such a pronounced characteristic of the car without even notifying customers or an official announcement. What happened to this being a car for enthusiasts??

I totally agree with you and honestly I'm surprised they haven't been slapped with any lawsuits. The first batch of g20s has way more of a fun factor than the newer ones.
Every damn year the g20 has had different performance and exhaust note and each one has different benefits! Wtf kind of bs is this?

First batch g20s have louder/deeper exhaust note, faster and more burbles pops if they didn't update and they have the "simple cluster feature"... every g20 that has come out afterwards has had less excitement to it.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by jbarba

Prior to july 2020, in EU only G series with professional cockpit had id7 (post july 2020 all G series has id7). My G21 320i was built on 2020/02 and has cockpit plus.

Okay, thanks for the information.

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by RSnic

MBM340 ,

With the introduction of G20, 3 series cars were provided the ability to receive OTA software updates. US cars were only recently enabled to accept this capability. For example, my car received version 07/2020.54 about a month ago. Prior to that, only dealers could update software.

To find out what version of software your car has, select CAR, SETTINGS, GENERAL, scroll down to & select REMOTE SOFTWARE UPGRADE. This option serves two purposes. Displayed on first line is version currently in car. If you select, CHECK FOR UPDATES, it will do just that.

BMW updates software to fix bugs/problems & provide additional or enhancing features. Major updates are made in March, July & November each year -- hence the update numbering system; additionally, minor updates are the 2 digits after decimal.

To find out what is included in major updates, go to BMW USA Connected Portal: https://connecteddrive.bmwusa.com/ap...x.html#/portal

At botton is a listing of what's included in major updates.

Finally, think the reason you got an OTA update, even though your car is new, is to put your car on the same baseline version. Again using my car as an example, it had been updated to 07/2020.45 at dealer, but as I said, was OTA'd to 07/2020.54

Hope that helps!

It does and I will check soon and let you guys know. Thanks.

I think if it gets annoying to me I will get a downpipe and a set of aftermarket pipes and it should be decent for me. I don't need the 20MY pops and all that but we will see how much they detune it before it finally breaks me.

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by MGM340i

I took mine September 2020.
New SW update (over the air) is sitting there "ready to install" however, I have been ignoring it...

Same.. I let it sit for so long it doesn't even pop up in my notifications anymore lol. I'm sure something else will break when updating it just to gain a feature or two. I'll pass.

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by Vmaxx

I can’t believe BMW would change such a pronounced characteristic of the car without even notifying customers or an official announcement. What happened to this being a car for enthusiasts??

Vmaxx you are making my point exactly. WTH are these people at BMW d o i n g? Leave my car alone, I don't need to be connected to you in order to have you detune my car. Thanks but no thanks.

[gofast182]

Just an update: my service adviser who I consider to be a friend said they did not update the software in my car when it was in. He also made the distinction that updates for the powertrain and ones that add things like the steering wheel climate rule are different. I'm not sure what to say, it's not my imagination, a car that I drive in Sport+ probably 60% of the time for a year now grabs higher gears and doesn't have lift-off pops certainly had something changed. I am getting used to the way it is now but I do miss the lift-off pops.

[Jerrytarg6_m340]

Originally Posted by MBM340

I just had a software update yesterday but my car is a 21 and is brand new so I am a little confused as to why I needed a software update on this particular model...when it is BRAND new.
I can't remember the update number but is there anywhere I can find that so I can tell you guys which update it was?
I haven't driven my car in anger yet so have no idea if it reduced what few burbles I have anyway.

You have a 21. Like me. Our car never had the pops and burbles that the 20 did. It's already de-tuned. Is what I call it. I was not happy abt this. But you get over it. Get a exhaust if it bothers you that much Which is prob what I'm gonna end up doing

[obscurehero]

Genuine question. It's the same car right? It's just a computer tune. So if you want a certain characteristic, just pay to tune it to the characteristics you want?

Cracks and burbles are at least not really critically functional so long as you're able to maintain boost right?

[sikotic]

Originally Posted by Jerrytarg6_m340

You have a 21. Like me. Our car never had the pops and burbles that the 20 did. It's already de-tuned. Is what I call it. I was not happy abt this. But you get over it. Get a exhaust if it bothers you that much Which is prob what I'm gonna end up doing

But we're not even sure at this point that an exhaust will even add those characteristics back. We'll have to hear some 21's with new exhaust but my guess is that they wont bring any pops or burbles back without some sort of software tune/adjustment

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by Jerrytarg6_m340

You have a 21. Like me. Our car never had the pops and burbles that the 20 did. It's already de-tuned. Is what I call it. I was not happy abt this. But you get over it. Get a exhaust if it bothers you that much Which is prob what I'm gonna end up doing

Yeah, I already knew the 21s didn't have the same exhaust note as the 20, I was just wondering why it would need to be updated so shortly after purchase but everyone has explained to me that BMW does this like 4 times a year...

I haven't driven it enough to know whether I am going to get an MPE or Dinan, but I use mine as a DD so it doesn't need to be THAT loud anyway. I came from a F series 330i so it already sounds more aggressive than that did.

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by obscurehero

Genuine question. It's the same car right? It's just a computer tune. So if you want a certain characteristic, just pay to tune it to the characteristics you want?

Cracks and burbles are at least not really critically functional so long as you're able to maintain boost right?

It is WAY more complex of an issue than just a simple tune...48V hybrid in the 21s. BMW locked down the middleware in the 21s. I could go on for hours but it isn't a simple solution.

[obscurehero]

Originally Posted by MBM340

It is WAY more complex of an issue than just a simple tune...48V hybrid in the 21s. BMW locked down the middleware in the 21s. I could go on for hours but it isn't a simple solution.

My point is that mechanically, there is very little different between the model years. Yes, the 48V starter/generator is new for that model year. But it sounds like early 21's still had the 20MY sound... everything I've read points to a tune in the software.

That said, these are largely just cosmetic sounds. If you like your car to 'sound' fast, I think there are much cheaper and more bespoke options. But also, it's a taste thing so I don't want to rag on those who care. But I think that's also why it's not that big of a deal to most BMW customers and why BMW is not taking more flak for this.

[Prof3ssor]

Originally Posted by MGM340i

I took mine September 2020.
New SW update (over the air) is sitting there "ready to install" however, I have been ignoring it...

Yeah, same with me. I have been ignoring my update for almost 6 months now. I brought the car in for an oil change recently and I told the advisor that whatever they do, do not update the software. He immediately questioned whether or not I had a tune and I informed him as to why I did not want the service techs to update.

Let's just say that this happens more often then people like to think it does. Imagine that instead of just pops/burbles that your cars performance was reduced? I can't specifically speak about the instance as I signed an NDA with BMW regarding one of my previous cars but these kind of things happen.

[MineralM]

I did one update and that definitely made some changes I didn't like from sound, to shifting points, to neutral rev speed. I have mpe and I noticed the sound changes. I have a new update sitting for over a months and I won't do it ever again.

Stay on the earliest version if you like your car as aggressive as it can be

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by Prof3ssor

Yeah, same with me. I have been ignoring my update for almost 6 months now. I brought the car in for an oil change recently and I told the advisor that whatever they do, do not update the software. He immediately questioned whether or not I had a tune and I informed him as to why I did not want the service techs to update.

Let's just say that this happens more often then people like to think it does. Imagine that instead of just pops/burbles that your cars performance was reduced? I can't specifically speak about the instance as I signed an NDA with BMW regarding one of my previous cars but these kind of things happen.

What the hell business is it of his if you have a tune? I guess if you lease...but if you own the car what business is it of thiers?

[warrenw]

Originally Posted by MineralM

I did one update and that definitely made some changes I didn't like from sound, to shifting points, to neutral rev speed. I have mpe and I noticed the sound changes. I have a new update sitting for over a months and I won't do it ever again.

Stay on the earliest version if you like your car as aggressive as it can be

Thankfully my ConnectedDrive is disconnected, and I do my own oil changes, so no reason to ever visit the dealer unless it's a warranty issue.

I bought my M2 two years ago and it's the same situation, I'm running on mid-2018 software on that LOL

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by MBM340

What the hell business is it of his if you have a tune? I guess if you lease...but if you own the car what business is it of thiers?

Maybe next time you come in whining about the warranty they can easily blow you off?
Or maybe he’s a cool tech that wanted to know how you like it tuned?

[MBM340]

Originally Posted by MGM340i

Maybe next time you come in whining about the warranty they can easily blow you off?
Or maybe he’s a cool tech that wanted to know how you like it tuned?

I guess so but that still tilts me. Unless you report an issue that can be traced to a tune, right?
The latter would be great but don't think that is true too often - not at a dealer at least.

[Giggler]

I've had the 11/2020 update for about a week now coming from the 07/2019 update. There is definitely a difference in the exhaust tune now. At first I thought it was my imagination, but I take the same damned trip to work every day on the same roads at the same speeds in the same mode. Pops and burbles are greatly reduced!