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      02-05-2019, 07:47 PM   #67
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Beautiful Lexus IS350, previous generation looks way better. No aggressiveness at all.
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No. Auto H or Auto hold is a feature that holds the car when it comes to a complete stop and you can let off the brakes. Tap the throttle and it automatically releases.




I don't see it either, but it could be iDrive based.
so in other words.. hill holder for automatics..

Hill holder is feature that holds the car when it comes to a complete stop and you can let off the brakes. It automatically releases after 3 seconds.

I understand the slight differences. but seriously, the Park button works for me.
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Ahhh...of course we now have the requisite extra cupholder in the doors! What an improvement! Aside from this tease and the paint burn on the front bumper, I'm sure I'm not alone in saying the standard M sport looks better than the M340i version...opinion, of course.
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Then back looks like a Lexus. I don't dislike it but it screams Lexus in every way !
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With the roundel covered, you just have to squint to recognize it for the Lexus it is in the back...
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Have you driven the new M5, with the ZF yet?

I don't miss my DCT AT ALL.
No, no real interest in the M5 - and I acknowledge it could be better than the other ZF boxes I have driven, but none have approached either the PDK I had in my 981 or the DCT I have in the F80.

The shifts are just slower and less immediate, which removes the involvement and experience factor in my opinion - again, in my experience, which doesn't include the new M5.
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so in other words.. hill holder for automatics..

Hill holder is feature that holds the car when it comes to a complete stop and you can let off the brakes. It automatically releases after 3 seconds.

I understand the slight differences. but seriously, the Park button works for me.
No park button with the M-DCT.

I know any non-manual is dead upon arrival in your eyes, but the dual clutches are really good. And I don't mean from just a "it's faster" point of view. I've had way more manuals than not in my list of cars, but it's not practical for my day-to-day driving experience. I can appreciate what DCT/PDKs bring to the table in the alternative, which is easier to live with for a DD...now, maybe if I get that third garage bay someday.....
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so in other words.. hill holder for automatics..

Hill holder is feature that holds the car when it comes to a complete stop and you can let off the brakes. It automatically releases after 3 seconds.

I understand the slight differences. but seriously, the Park button works for me.
No park button with the M-DCT.

I know any non-manual is dead upon arrival in your eyes, but the dual clutches are really good. And I don't mean from just a "it's faster" point of view. I've had way more manuals than not in my list of cars, but it's not practical for my day-to-day driving experience. I can appreciate what DCT/PDKs bring to the table in the alternative, which is easier to live with for a DD...now, maybe if I get that third garage bay someday.....
This is in an automatic. Not an M - DCT though right ?
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Very infiniti look from the back
No no, Lexus.
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Looks great. Not sure why people are complaining. BMW did a great job with this thing. Can't wait for the M3!!
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Toyota/Lexus: we accept but on one condition.

BMW: what is it?

Toyota/Lexus: you will put the IS rear end in all your new 3 series.

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Like the front, not feeling the uninspiring Lexus/Audi rear.
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Interior looks great, exterior not so much. Looks like a Merc from the side, Lexus from the back and BMW from the front.
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Have you driven the new M5, with the ZF yet?

I don't miss my DCT AT ALL.
The ZF is so nice, it's as if the car has no gears at all! It's as if it's as lifeless as an electric vehicle..
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Interior looks great, exterior not so much. Looks like a Merc from the side, Lexus from the back and BMW from the front.
That's why I like the front, as well as the improved interior, but the rear destroys my love a little bit. It could have been a really good looking car.
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Have you driven the new M5, with the ZF yet?

I don't miss my DCT AT ALL.
No, no real interest in the M5 - and I acknowledge it could be better than the other ZF boxes I have driven, but none have approached either the PDK I had in my 981 or the DCT I have in the F80.

The shifts are just slower and less immediate, which removes the involvement and experience factor in my opinion - again, in my experience, which doesn't include the new M5.
I agree. It takes away from the fun and engagement of a MT. I'm a MT person at heart. As life would have it my MT days are over (for daily driving).

I have a MT M2, and a F90 now. I had an F82 MT & F82 DCT prior.

All I can say is (personally) the ZF in my M5 is 95% as fast as my past DCT, and 126.5% smoother.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
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