[twssas]

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Looking at options for a future build in a couple of months. The M340 comes standard with 5A4 LED Headlights with Cornering Lights. The option given is a $2600 executive package for Laser Lights.

My question, is someone mentioned on this board a couple of years ago that the 5A4 is a adaptive LED with cornering lights. Is this assumption correct? Currently have a 2018 340 with Adaptive Led's and really like them a lot. If the 5A4 is not adaptive, I may look at the laser light, but dont really know if it is worth the premium.

Thanks

[Auditobimmer42]

The standard LEDs are adaptive. I sometimes feel a little envy on the rare occasion I see the cooler laser lights on the street, but overall I don't regret it. Especially for the price.

[twssas]

Thanks. After studying the Laser lights, it doesn't appear you get full function of the design in the United States anyway. With the 5A4 option of the LED with cornering lights, there is also another standard option which includes automatic dimming. You have saved me some $$. I reallly wasnt interested in the Gesture conrol feature either

[A6bullet]

The long distance throw of the Laser lights is unmatched though. Really good if you do a lot of night driving.

[mf44]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

The long distance throw of the Laser lights is unmatched though. Really good if you do a lot of night driving.

This is true but each person should consider what kind of driving they are usually doing. My understanding is that the laser lights will not turn on unless you are over 60mph AND there are no oncoming cars. In my area, there are very few situations when that would happen. I'm sure in more remote areas, though, they are great.

[A6bullet]

Originally Posted by mf44

This is true but each person should consider what kind of driving they are usually doing. My understanding is that the laser lights will not turn on unless you are over 60mph AND there are no oncoming cars. In my area, there are very few situations when that would happen. I'm sure in more remote areas, though, they are great.

This is true, especially for people in NA because of the dumbed down adaptive beams.

The beams activate at around 37 MPH i think, if my conversion is right.

I think if the system was fully up to snuff like the ROW, more people would find the lasers beneficial, since they would be on more.

[bap340i]

The NHTSA has been working on a change that would impact laser lights since 2018. A final rule may be issued as soon as this month to allow something closer to the full feature set. The Executive option, which includes all of Premium plus laser lights, is $1,200 more than Premium. That is essentially the charge for laser lights. I lifted the link from a different thread on this subject.

https://beta.regulations.gov/docket/...unified-agenda

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

The long distance throw of the Laser lights is unmatched though. Really good if you do a lot of night driving.

Agreed. I am disappointed with the G20 LED long beam lights. I had the ICON LED on my F80 and the output was significantly better.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by Auditobimmer42

The standard LEDs are adaptive. I sometimes feel a little envy on the rare occasion I see the cooler laser lights on the street, but overall I don't regret it. Especially for the price.

If you mean "adaptive == anti dazzle/selective beam" then no, the standard LEDs aren't. They do have advanced cornering lights that moves horizontally in curves.

[twssas]

Originally Posted by mbanck

If you mean "adaptive == anti dazzle/selective beam" then no, the standard LEDs aren't. They do have advanced cornering lights that moves horizontally in curves.

Just want to make sure I undersand this correctly.

The 5A4 LED code is the light that moves in curves, as you turn the steering wheel. Am I reading that right? I want to be sure as I prepare my order. Really do not want to order the Laser Lights due to cost, possible future maintenance, and in the United States, as I understand, really cannot get full use of lights due to regulations

[Aero7000]

Adaptive LEDs are the ones that move with the steering wheel.
Cornering light is an additional light that illuminate outwards when you put turn light on, when slowing down for the intersection.

[Bimmer006]

Originally Posted by twssas

Thanks. After studying the Laser lights, it doesn't appear you get full function of the design in the United States anyway. With the 5A4 option of the LED with cornering lights, there is also another standard option which includes automatic dimming. You have saved me some $$. I reallly wasnt interested in the Gesture conrol feature either

It looks like in US G20 comes with only two options of head lights.

1) LED headlight with Cornering lights
2) Icon adaptive LED headlights with laser

The option 1 is not a fully adaptive LED headlights. As per BMW standard spec sheet it doesn't say adaptive. Also more over an adaptive LED headlights will say BMW adaptive LED on the headlights. So the standard ones that come with G20 says only BMW LED in the headlight.

So if you really want a fully loaded adaptive LED then only option is to get Executive package so that you can get both Icon AdaptiveLED plus Laser. Best of both worlds. I know in NA the laser has limited output. But still it's better than standard LED.

[Auditobimmer42]

Originally Posted by mbanck

If you mean "adaptive == anti dazzle/selective beam" then no, the standard LEDs aren't. They do have advanced cornering lights that moves horizontally in curves.

I mean adaptive as in the the beam following the road and steering movement. And then the slow sharp turn cornering light. I guess it is confusing now since fully adaptive means that it includes the anti-dazzle features. But seems the OP might have only been concerned about the headlights cornering and will get that with the standard option.

[A6bullet]

Originally Posted by Bimmer006

It looks like in US G20 comes with only two options of head lights.

1) LED headlight with Cornering lights
2) Icon adaptive LED headlights with laser

The option 1 is not a fully adaptive LED headlights. As per BMW standard spec sheet it doesn't say adaptive. Also more over an adaptive LED headlights will say BMW adaptive LED on the headlights. So the standard ones that come with G20 says only BMW LED in the headlight.

So if you really want a fully loaded adaptive LED then only option is to get Executive package so that you can get both Icon AdaptiveLED plus Laser. Best of both worlds. I know in NA the laser has limited output. But still it's better than standard LED.

I think that's a misconception. The NA lasers are not capped in output, it's the same as ROW.

[Casone238]

To be honest I got the laser lights only for cosmetic purposes. I was told from the dealer the lights are higher performing then the led, during night driving can you tell the difference ?probably not unless you do a test drive back to back.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Casone238

To be honest I got the laser lights only for cosmetic purposes. I was told from the dealer the lights are higher performing then the led, during night driving can you tell the difference ?probably not unless you do a test drive back to back.

I only got them for the larger DRLs lol

[SunsetSleeper]

Originally Posted by Auditobimmer42

The standard LEDs are adaptive. I sometimes feel a little envy on the rare occasion I see the cooler laser lights on the street, but overall I don't regret it. Especially for the price.

I agree with this for sure. I got every single option including all the M performance parts.

The only options I left out was the BS executive package with laser lights..i wanted the headlights but none of the "safety" stuff that came with it. I have absolutely no idea why BMW won't let you just get the damn laserlights by itself...why do we need all the crap we don't want to come along with it for $2k+.

My M performance parts were worth it but the laserlight I could not wrap my head around what I was actually paying for.

[Bimmer006]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

I think that's a misconception. The NA lasers are not capped in output, it's the same as ROW.

Not sure what do mean ROW. For me I didn't mind about the laser, instead if someone is looking for a fully adaptive LED headlights and a better DRL, then getting the Executive package is the only option for G20.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

I think that's a misconception. The NA lasers are not capped in output, it's the same as ROW.

This is not correct. The lasers in the US and Canada are limited in brightness as well as not having the anti-dazzle. The second should be handled shortly since the rule allowing them should be final within a few weeks.

[WXdrivefun]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

I only got them for the larger DRLs lol

Same here, The DRL LEDs look more aggressive, even when on in the evening.. Very Iconic and sporty interpretation of the hofmeister kink found within the LEDS, representing of the design of the G20.


The previous F30 generation had the angel eyes/halo LEDs which were iconic for that time.

[A6bullet]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

This is not correct. The lasers in the US and Canada are limited in brightness as well as not having the anti-dazzle. The second should be handled shortly since the rule allowing them should be final within a few weeks.

Ah ok, I remember some conversations from release time that the coding was identical pretty much between ROW and NA. Except for the anti dazzle and better beam forming. Maybe its a physical change to the headlights.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by A6bullet

Ah ok, I remember some conversations from release time that the coding was identical pretty much between ROW and NA. Except for the anti dazzle and better beam forming. Maybe its a physical change to the headlights.

Not sure what controls it, perhaps it is just a rumor although I also have read about it in articles. Folks on this side of the Atlantic have been able to enable anti-dazzle with coding but nothing for the brightness. Maybe it is physical or no difference to change.