Mission Presents | M-Link | At-Home Bench DME Flashback, Backup, Recover, and Unlock

weinerbarn · 08-06-2023, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NightOwl-M340i

Question!

If I femto unlock my 22 and buy this MP product will it work?

Can I use it to backup my dme so I can switch back to stock from the tune incase I wanna go in for service?

If bmw does an update on my car while its in service do I need another femto unlock or can I use the MP product to do a bench unlock and I’ll be able to switch back to my tune?

Unlikely to work. If I recall correctly, the Femto “unlock” wasn’t a full unlock but rather just allowing a specific set of partner tuners to write to the tuning parameter areas. If it gets flashed by the dealer, it needs to go back to Femto.

weinerbarn · 08-06-2023, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pdxdbo

I can’t seem to view the docs at this link M-Link wiki

Works for me on multiple devices. Did you expand with the arrow or is the page not loading at all?

pdxdbo · 08-06-2023, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by weinerbarn

Works for me on multiple devices. Did you expand with the arrow or is the page not loading at all?

Weird, iOS Safari I get this:

Danyul · 08-07-2023, 01:41 AM

I see that ‘S68 generation 3 (F90)’ is mentioned—but for the F90 it would be S63TU4. Will there be support for the M5/M8 F9X?

weinerbarn · 08-07-2023, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danyul

I see that ‘S68 generation 3 (F90) is mentioned—but for the F90 it would be S63TU4. Will there be support for the M5/M8 F9X?

He clarified that was a typo and updated the first post It’s actually S63 F9x. The S68 is certainly a 2021+ DME which seemed odd to me as well.

weinerbarn · 08-07-2023, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pdxdbo

Weird, iOS Safari I get this:

Go to Settings > Safari > Advanced in your phone and then toggle JavaScript to enable.

Sinister840 · 08-07-2023, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

Very happy to hear that and the FAQ/User Guide link will be posted over the next day or so.

Regarding your question, yes, and let me springboard off of what you asked... Realizing that the traditional “bench unlock” was a real pain point for the community. We felt it best to make the M-Link complimentary to any tuning platform vs locking it solely to Mission tunes. And this is the first of several upcoming releases, all of which are complimentary to any platform.
While the M-Link pairs nicely with any tuner's platform, our tuning platform remains the front-runner for drivers looking for a set-it-and-forget approach. While still retaining oem like reliability, predictability, and drivability.
Once unlocked, you can flash your ECU at will, all over OBD port. Just follow any special procedures, if any, that your tuning platform posts for regular bench-unlocked DMEs.

The hardware in the M-Link already contains unlocking capabilities for the 2021+ ECUs. Official support for these ECUs will be addressed and discussed for future releases.

Patiently waiting on the 2021+

pdxdbo · 08-07-2023, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by weinerbarn

Go to Settings > Safari > Advanced in your phone and then toggle JavaScript to enable.

That didn’t work (JS was already enabled) but switching the toggle for Request Desktop Webite did the trick in Safari settings. Thanks

kuzdu · 08-07-2023, 10:39 AM

SO when are we getting confirmation for 21 ECU so i can order this thing

ChrisM4 · 08-07-2023, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by totalone

So.. there goes my question for everyone.
I took my car into service, obviously I removed my piggyback. Service was done, when I get home I take a look at the invoice and at the bottom of the page it says, "be ware car is tuned" remark on the invoice (I visited service due to belt tensioner).
Is it safe to say I am fully flagged and I pretty much ****ed, because even if I backup my DME the values has been already tempered with and BMW has detected it and it is not in their system, so even if I go to different service they will see this.

Yup you’re flagged…

totalone · 08-07-2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisM3

Yup you’re flagged…

Yup, that is what I was expecting to hear. No surprise here. Might as well go for a proper tune at this point.

mikeone · 08-07-2023, 12:57 PM

I really hope DME unlock comes for 2021+ can't wait to unlock mine and keep an original backup

pdxdbo · 08-07-2023, 01:28 PM

As someone with a pre 6/20 G20 who doesn’t have a local bench unlock option this is GOLD.

PrezRoosevelt · 08-07-2023, 04:17 PM

Soon™ for the 2021+ unlock flash update... I'll believe it when I see it. Especially with the several important projects needing to be completed comment, I doubt any updates or mentions until well into next year.

Maybe I'll eat my words and they release it timely but having hardware that's compatible/capable doesn't mean anything when it could just be referring to it's ability to connect to ecu's on 2021+ models.

Maybe show an updated unlock video, proof of concept. Unless proven otherwise, it's another Soon™.

Z K · 08-07-2023, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

Example Customer A: Comes in for turbo replacement to a dealer. The initial scan is ran, detecting "Plug And Play variant", aka any piggyback. The flag is set off only internally (since PnP is a level 2 detection currently). Now that data is transmitted to BMW warranty sector that will take that into account when issuing warranty repair orders. Since PnP flag can be set off ONLY by having actual piggyback (ok resistor trick with basic board can set it off as well), the warranty is denied even though the car looks fully stock. Why? Well because this specific flash has only one trigger function, that takes into account acceleration! So if you accelerated much faster then stock (letes hope you did, otherwsie the piggy-back did not actually function) and function detected other key parameters, this will be set off. BMW will also have access to "blackbox" data that outlines what performance paramaters (new one added is RPM/s, or RPM acceleration rate) were taken into account. To summrazie, you are screwed.

With this scenario, is there a way to remove the piggyback and "reset" the acceleration data so when it goes to BMW to not get flagged for PNP Variant?

i.e. Remove piggyback and drive 1000 miles without piggyback before going to BMW? I don't think BMW would store acceleration data forever in blackbox logs.

PrezRoosevelt · 08-07-2023, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

With this scenario, is there a way to remove the piggyback and "reset" the acceleration data so when it goes to BMW to not get flagged for PNP Variant?

i.e. Remove piggyback and drive 1000 miles without piggyback before going to BMW? I don't think BMW would store acceleration data forever in blackbox logs.

They wouldn't need to store the data I'm guessing. It probably triggers a flag based on your vehicle's performance metrics and just keeps it flagged. Maybe snapshots instances where it performed above expected parameters.

I highly doubt driving a few thousand miles will suddenly remove the flag for pnp.

shatty · 08-07-2023, 07:52 PM

HOOOLLDDDD ON A SEC....So post june ECUS this will unlock? I can finally put BM3 on my 2022 G05 M50?!!!!????!!! How much and when can I grab this. My warranty almost over anyway. Approaching 28k miles

PrezRoosevelt · 08-07-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shatty

HOOOLLDDDD ON A SEC....So post june ECUS this will unlock? I can finally put BM3 on my 2022 G05 M50?!!!!????!!! How much and when can I grab this. My warranty almost over anyway. Approaching 28k miles

It's "capable" but not yet. I would read through the topic before you buy. Highly dependant on when they push the update.

totalone · 08-07-2023, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

With this scenario, is there a way to remove the piggyback and "reset" the acceleration data so when it goes to BMW to not get flagged for PNP Variant?

i.e. Remove piggyback and drive 1000 miles without piggyback before going to BMW? I don't think BMW would store acceleration data forever in blackbox logs.

Also interested in that. I was thinking to contacting MP directly on this.

shatty · 08-07-2023, 08:03 PM

Yea says pre 21 on site

Tpriest7893 · 08-07-2023, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by totalone

So.. there goes my question for everyone.
I took my car into service, obviously I removed my piggyback. Service was done, when I get home I take a look at the invoice and at the bottom of the page it says, "be ware car is tuned" remark on the invoice (I visited service due to belt tensioner).
Is it safe to say I am fully flagged and I pretty much ****ed, because even if I backup my DME the values has been already tempered with and BMW has detected it and it is not in their system, so even if I go to different service they will see this.

Did you do the flashback after you removed your piggy back tune?

totalone · 08-07-2023, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tpriest7893

Did you do the flashback after you removed your piggy back tune?

What do you mean flash back? there is nothing to flash with a piggy back

08-07-2023, 01:41 AM	#92
Danyul Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW M440i GC Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I see that ‘S68 generation 3 (F90)’ is mentioned—but for the F90 it would be S63TU4. Will there be support for the M5/M8 F9X?
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08-07-2023, 12:57 PM	#100
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pdxdbo Lieutenant 331 Rep 471 Posts Drives: G20 330i xDrive M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: PDX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW 330i xDrive [0.00] 2016 BMW 328i Gran ... [0.00]	As someone with a pre 6/20 G20 who doesn’t have a local bench unlock option this is GOLD.
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08-07-2023, 04:17 PM	#102
PrezRoosevelt Second Lieutenant 110 Rep 211 Posts Drives: M340i Rwd Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: OC, CA iTrader: (2)	Soon™ for the 2021+ unlock flash update... I'll believe it when I see it. Especially with the several important projects needing to be completed comment, I doubt any updates or mentions until well into next year. Maybe I'll eat my words and they release it timely but having hardware that's compatible/capable doesn't mean anything when it could just be referring to it's ability to connect to ecu's on 2021+ models. Maybe show an updated unlock video, proof of concept. Unless proven otherwise, it's another Soon™. Last edited by PrezRoosevelt; 08-07-2023 at 04:32 PM..
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shatty Second Lieutenant 164 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2024 M2 6MT Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (0)	HOOOLLDDDD ON A SEC....So post june ECUS this will unlock? I can finally put BM3 on my 2022 G05 M50?!!!!????!!! How much and when can I grab this. My warranty almost over anyway. Approaching 28k miles __________________ 2024 G87 M2. Alpine white. Black seats with Mcolor sides. 6M.
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shatty Second Lieutenant 164 Rep 267 Posts Drives: 2024 M2 6MT Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (0)	Yea says pre 21 on site __________________ 2024 G87 M2. Alpine white. Black seats with Mcolor sides. 6M.
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