It’s hard to go back to my M340i since I drove an M5 - Ugh!

jmg · 01-13-2020, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ls3c6

I struggle with the same, I love my m340i and Hellcat Charger but I would like to mold them into the same car I could use all the time.

Sounds like you want the upcoming G80 M3 with AWD. It's not as powerful as the Hellcat but it won't handle like a barge either!

shawntech · 01-13-2020, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

Sounds like you want the upcoming G80 M3 with AWD. It's not as powerful as the Hellcat but it won't handle like a barge either!

Gotta have a V8! Hellcat handles way better than it gets credit for.

gpdriver17 · 01-17-2020, 04:55 PM

I have both. Overall the M5 feels so much more luxurious. The seats are a huge upgrade they fit like a glove. Also the steering feel, ride quality, engine noise, massaging seats and lane keep assist (not sure if you can get that on the M340, probably can).

The power of the M5 is on another level. With a JB4 the M5 runs 0-60 in 2.5 and 0-100mph in 5.4-5.5. With that said, you cannot floor the car unless you're on a really good surface. Any bumps at all will just cause wheel spin. Any moisture on the road, cold surface, poor pavement, etc. and it wont hook up. Forget about flooring it across your average intersection. What's nice about the M340 is you can drop the hammer anywhere and have fun. You can't just do that in the M5. You need a lot of room and you get well over 100mph in places where you shouldn't be lol. On an average day I don't even see one good opportunity to floor the M5 and end up driving the M340 faster.

RLA1999 · 01-17-2020, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSky702

Why did I test drive the M5 comp at the bmw M tour?!?!

Hard to jump back in the M340!!

oh wow, LOL. I just got my M340i and was thinking about one of them M tours and can see how driving the M5 could be a negative in a way. I guess I have a similar experience to a smaller extent since I went to the dealer looking for a 330i. They happened to have the M340i there so i test drove both. So obviously I ended up with the M340i

530iDriver · 01-18-2020, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hans007

is it really that much different? The only G30 i've driven is a 530e, at one of those ultimate drive events, but on an auto cross course it felt terrible because it was so big. I'd guess an m5 on that kind of course would feel pretty large too or does it somehow hide it with some M magic.

530e is too heavy over the rear because of the battery placement and also the heavier power train. Weight distribution is impacted as a result.

Next time try the 530i which is nearly 500 pounds lighter and the only G30 with near perfect 50/50 weight distribution.

Salespunk · 01-22-2020, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gpdriver17

I have both. Overall the M5 feels so much more luxurious. The seats are a huge upgrade they fit like a glove. Also the steering feel, ride quality, engine noise, massaging seats and lane keep assist (not sure if you can get that on the M340, probably can).

The power of the M5 is on another level. With a JB4 the M5 runs 0-60 in 2.5 and 0-100mph in 5.4-5.5. With that said, you cannot floor the car unless you're on a really good surface. Any bumps at all will just cause wheel spin. Any moisture on the road, cold surface, poor pavement, etc. and it wont hook up. Forget about flooring it across your average intersection. What's nice about the M340 is you can drop the hammer anywhere and have fun. You can't just do that in the M5. You need a lot of room and you get well over 100mph in places where you shouldn't be lol. On an average day I don't even see one good opportunity to floor the M5 and end up driving the M340 faster.

This sums it up well. My combination is a bit different with an M5 and Civic TypeR, but the M5 is an amazing car. Main problem is that the limits are so high that when you push the car there could be serious consequences if something goes wrong. Around town it feels a bit like a caged tiger on meth. You start doing what looks like obnoxious sh!t because its power, grip, braking etc are on a different level.

The CTR on the other hand is fun everywhere on the street. It feels quick, but not overwhelming. Every time you get on the gas in the M5 you are over 100 in a few seconds. My guess is that the 340 splits the difference. I need to go drive a 340i soon, but I want to wait for the new M3 before I make any changes.

EXE46 · 01-22-2020, 01:32 PM

Speaking of M5 I was cruising behind one a few weeks ago and the guy was just taking it easy. Out of nowhere a wanker in a new corolla cut him off. Luckily the M5 driver was going the legal speed and braked in time or the idiot would have likely total the new M5. I respect the car but it will never be on my radar. Too big, too much power etc, provided I could afford it that is. The size alone is no go.

530iDriver · 01-22-2020, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EXE46

Speaking of M5 I was cruising behind one a few weeks ago and the guy was just taking it easy. Out of nowhere a wanker in a new corolla cut him off. Luckily the M5 driver was going the legal speed and braked in time or the idiot would have likely total the new M5. I respect the car but it will never be on my radar. Too big, too much power etc, provided I could afford it that is. The size alone is no go.

Not that much bigger than your G20...

Benjamin_Nicholas · 01-24-2020, 07:04 PM

Funny, as I did the opposite.

I still have the M5, but decided on a new M340i as a city daily driver. Easier to U-turn, corner, etc. I haven't regretted the decision.

The M5 remains a monster of a highway car.

evanescent03 · 01-30-2020, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gpdriver17

I have both. Overall the M5 feels so much more luxurious. The seats are a huge upgrade they fit like a glove. Also the steering feel, ride quality, engine noise, massaging seats and lane keep assist (not sure if you can get that on the M340, probably can).

The power of the M5 is on another level. With a JB4 the M5 runs 0-60 in 2.5 and 0-100mph in 5.4-5.5. With that said, you cannot floor the car unless you're on a really good surface. Any bumps at all will just cause wheel spin. Any moisture on the road, cold surface, poor pavement, etc. and it wont hook up. Forget about flooring it across your average intersection. What's nice about the M340 is you can drop the hammer anywhere and have fun. You can't just do that in the M5. You need a lot of room and you get well over 100mph in places where you shouldn't be lol. On an average day I don't even see one good opportunity to floor the M5 and end up driving the M340 faster.

I've had a number of 335is and M3s... also had an M6 GC CP... even though the launch wasn't crazy in that car with RWD only, it picked up speed like crazy and yeah ... 100mph ++ in places you shouldn't be going that fast is very accurate. Really fun but also talking jailtime to try and push the car ... that's pretty crazy. The 3ers are much less nice but more fun for sure. The new G80 is in my short list but, honestly... an M5 and GT3 combo would even be better haha.

I still believe the m340i or M3 is one of the best all round vehicles you can get if you don't have to tow a trailer.

NewM3driver · 01-31-2020, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Salespunk

This sums it up well. My combination is a bit different with an M5 and Civic TypeR, but the M5 is an amazing car. Main problem is that the limits are so high that when you push the car there could be serious consequences if something goes wrong. Around town it feels a bit like a caged tiger on meth. You start doing what looks like obnoxious sh!t because its power, grip, braking etc are on a different level.

The CTR on the other hand is fun everywhere on the street. It feels quick, but not overwhelming. Every time you get on the gas in the M5 you are over 100 in a few seconds. My guess is that the 340 splits the difference. I need to go drive a 340i soon, but I want to wait for the new M3 before I make any changes.

You're comparing an M5 to a Civic Type R? Seriously?

Bud Webber · 01-31-2020, 02:17 PM

I've read that the G20 M340 has 90+% of the M5's performance, for little more than 1/2 of the price.

wtwo3 · 01-31-2020, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Webber

I've read that the G20 M340 has 90+% of the M5's performance, for little more than 1/2 of the price.

Is that "90+%" an actual calculated value or simply arbitrary?

In C&D's annual lightning lap, the M2C got a time of 2:59 while the M5C got a time of 2:54. So a pretty significant difference. I'd guess the M340 would be slower than the M2C around the track.

Seaford · 02-01-2020, 09:14 AM

I had an 850i courtesy car for a while, absolutely top spec.

I didn't have an issue getting back into my 328GT and then a new 330i as I know my place in life!!

Salespunk · 02-03-2020, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NewM3driver

You're comparing an M5 to a Civic Type R? Seriously?

Yes seriously...

Someone made a comment inferring that the M5 may be too fast to use on the street. I own an M5 and a Type R and agree that the M5 is brutally quick while the Type R strikes an almost perfect balance for a street car.

Have you actually driven a Type R? There is a reason that an M5 (or M3) loses 15% of its value when you drive it off the lot and 30% in the first year, yet a used Type R sells for close to sticker price even after a few years. F90 trade in value is already in the mid to low $80K range after a year on the market.

01-17-2020, 04:55 PM	#25
gpdriver17 Lieutenant 293 Rep 456 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0)	I have both. Overall the M5 feels so much more luxurious. The seats are a huge upgrade they fit like a glove. Also the steering feel, ride quality, engine noise, massaging seats and lane keep assist (not sure if you can get that on the M340, probably can). The power of the M5 is on another level. With a JB4 the M5 runs 0-60 in 2.5 and 0-100mph in 5.4-5.5. With that said, you cannot floor the car unless you're on a really good surface. Any bumps at all will just cause wheel spin. Any moisture on the road, cold surface, poor pavement, etc. and it wont hook up. Forget about flooring it across your average intersection. What's nice about the M340 is you can drop the hammer anywhere and have fun. You can't just do that in the M5. You need a lot of room and you get well over 100mph in places where you shouldn't be lol. On an average day I don't even see one good opportunity to floor the M5 and end up driving the M340 faster. __________________ 2018 BMW M5 2018 Porsche GT3 2023 Porsche Macan S 2023 Porsche 911 Turbo S Last edited by gpdriver17; 01-17-2020 at 05:06 PM..
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EXE46 Lieutenant Colonel 2100 Rep 1,532 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i RWD Aka New E39 M5 Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: State of Dystopia iTrader: (0)	Speaking of M5 I was cruising behind one a few weeks ago and the guy was just taking it easy. Out of nowhere a wanker in a new corolla cut him off. Luckily the M5 driver was going the legal speed and braked in time or the idiot would have likely total the new M5. I respect the car but it will never be on my radar. Too big, too much power etc, provided I could afford it that is. The size alone is no go. __________________ Prior's: E36, E46 x2
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Benjamin_Nicholas BEAST? ... How dare you. 444 Rep 416 Posts Drives: BMW, Porsche Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Funny, as I did the opposite. I still have the M5, but decided on a new M340i as a city daily driver. Easier to U-turn, corner, etc. I haven't regretted the decision. The M5 remains a monster of a highway car. __________________ ______________ 1973 Porsche 911S 2023 BMW M550i 2023 BMW X5M 2020 BMW M340i (retired)
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Bud Webber Enlisted Member 36 Rep 46 Posts Drives: M340i xDrive Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	M340 vs M5 performance I've read that the G20 M340 has 90+% of the M5's performance, for little more than 1/2 of the price.
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