Do you like the new 4 Series Coupe Concept Grill?

Cortexiphan · 09-12-2019, 08:40 AM

It makes the G20 and G30 look really old.
It’s also the kind of design change people will like in time. If you look at the history, bold design has always been hated at first, but adapted later.

Ilyam5 · 09-12-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

It makes the G20 and G30 look really old.
It’s also the kind of design change people will like in time. If you look at the history, bold design has always been hated at first, but adapted later.

Not quite.. Look at Bangle designs. Hated by all.... Shoved down our throats ... stuck for couple of years... still hated by all
Bangle leaves.... not able to withstand criticism... Designs back pedal in a hurry returning to classic BMW form and design...

Forgotten like a bad dream.....

FZ36 · 09-13-2019, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

It makes the G20 and G30 look really old.
It’s also the kind of design change people will like in time. If you look at the history, bold design has always been hated at first, but adapted later.

I agree with you, I think change is great even if it’s for the worse. It helps us learn what works and what doesn’t.

The current poll results are 1 in 5 people liking the new design. I wonder how much this is going to change over the next few years.

Sedan_Clan · 09-13-2019, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilyam5

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Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

It makes the G20 and G30 look really old.
It’s also the kind of design change people will like in time. If you look at the history, bold design has always been hated at first, but adapted later.

Not quite.. Look at Bangle designs. Hated by all.... Shoved down our throats ... stuck for couple of years... still hated by all
Bangle leaves.... not able to withstand criticism... Designs back pedal in a hurry returning to classic BMW form and design...

Forgotten like a bad dream.....

The designs weren't hated by all based on sales, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Ilyam5 · 09-13-2019, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

The designs weren't hated by all based on sales, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I do not know... yo'd be the judge;

Ilyam5 · 09-13-2019, 03:11 PM

Hey.. at least the Grills were small////

But we can't even blame the small grill for Bangle designs... Time did not prove them to be any better or more acceptable... Just like Aztech - ugly is ugly

On the other hand - the classic BMW 7 series is still a desirable car - small grills and all

Sedan_Clan · 09-13-2019, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilyam5

I do not know... yo'd be the judge;

There's nothing for me to judge. Sales figures are sales figures. What was considered ugly on the forums (..or in auto mags) proved to sell well with the general public.

Firstm31993 · 09-13-2019, 03:37 PM

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I think the whole thing looks great EXCEPT for the stupid grill and associated smiling bumper. Gross!

Great overall design. Keep the new grill design just shorten back to the dimensions of the other 4 series

530iDriver · 09-13-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by Ilyam5

I do not know... yo'd be the judge;

There's nothing for me to judge. Sales figures are sales figures. What was considered ugly on the forums (..or in auto mags) proved to sell well with the general public.

The E65 7er was and still is the best selling generation of all time. Nothing that came before or after it has been able to topple it off.

allwheelsdriven · 01-19-2021, 09:31 PM

Yuck. I wish there was a regular grill option.

VetteGuy · 01-19-2021, 09:37 PM

Reviving a thread from over a year ago? Really? Time to let it go, man. This is the “regular grille” now.

MBM340 · 01-19-2021, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VetteGuy

Reviving a thread from over a year ago? Really? Time to let it go, man. This is the “regular grille” now.

Regular on the 4...thank God not on the 3

Rux · 01-19-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MBM340

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Originally Posted by VetteGuy

Reviving a thread from over a year ago? Really? Time to let it go, man. This is the “regular grille” now.

Regular on the 4...thank God not on the 3

not yet...

SteveinArizona · 01-20-2021, 08:01 AM

I was at my dealership yesterday morning to have my coolant topped off. While waiting I wandered around the showroom floor. I saw 2 series,3 series, 5 series, 7 series and 8 series (as well as SAVs) but no 4 series. There is a seldom visited second showroom on the second floor (it is hard to even find the elevator to get up there). I took the elevator and lo and behold, there were 2 4 series cars up there.

My guess is that they are hiding the ugly things there.

For whatever its worth, very little if you are a fan, in person it looks as bad to me as it does in pictures.

NorCalAthlete · 01-20-2021, 03:34 PM

I realize the F150 sells far, far more units than the 3 / 4 series, but considering the mounting points are all the same (I think) for a 420/430/M440/M4 and so on, I wonder how much effort it would be for BMW to have a couple different options of grills like the F150 has.

Check Out All 11 Grilles For The 2021 Ford F-150

SteveinArizona · 01-20-2021, 04:05 PM

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I realize the F150 sells far, far more units than the 3 / 4 series, but considering the mounting points are all the same (I think) for a 420/430/M440/M4 and so on, I wonder how much effort it would be for BMW to have a couple different options of grills like the F150 has.

Check Out All 11 Grilles For The 2021 Ford F-150

It would not be hard just as it would be very easy to have some optional displays on the speedometer and tachometer. But BMW seems to believe that tis designers (I use that term in jest) know better no matter what its customers say.

NorCalAthlete · 01-20-2021, 05:02 PM

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It would not be hard just as it would be very easy to have some optional displays on the speedometer and tachometer. But BMW seems to believe that tis designers (I use that term in jest) know better no matter what its customers say.

I mean, I'm not even talking a whole different bumper, just different fillers for the nostrils. Ie some with the little diamond inserts, some slatted like the M4, maybe one that's just mesh ala Lexus, etc.

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Ilyam5 Major 890 Rep 1,075 Posts Drives: 06 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ma iTrader: (0)	Hey.. at least the Grills were small//// But we can't even blame the small grill for Bangle designs... Time did not prove them to be any better or more acceptable... Just like Aztech - ugly is ugly On the other hand - the classic BMW 7 series is still a desirable car - small grills and all Attached Images
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VetteGuy Captain 846 Rep 639 Posts Drives: Arctic Race Blue M440iX Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: St. Louis, MO. USA iTrader: (0)	Reviving a thread from over a year ago? Really? Time to let it go, man. This is the “regular grille” now.
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SteveinArizona Brigadier General 3086 Rep 4,210 Posts Drives: BMW 530e Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Greater Phoenix iTrader: (0)	I was at my dealership yesterday morning to have my coolant topped off. While waiting I wandered around the showroom floor. I saw 2 series,3 series, 5 series, 7 series and 8 series (as well as SAVs) but no 4 series. There is a seldom visited second showroom on the second floor (it is hard to even find the elevator to get up there). I took the elevator and lo and behold, there were 2 4 series cars up there. My guess is that they are hiding the ugly things there. For whatever its worth, very little if you are a fan, in person it looks as bad to me as it does in pictures.
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NorCalAthlete Lieutenant Colonel 3177 Rep 1,666 Posts Drives: '23 M4CX - Tanzanite / Tartufo Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	I realize the F150 sells far, far more units than the 3 / 4 series, but considering the mounting points are all the same (I think) for a 420/430/M440/M4 and so on, I wonder how much effort it would be for BMW to have a couple different options of grills like the F150 has. Check Out All 11 Grilles For The 2021 Ford F-150
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