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      06-17-2019, 07:39 PM   #23
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The E90 was my first BMW...and it still has a place in my heart I still dream of that NA engine and hydraulic steering...but I admit I don't miss the "cupholders"

I'm really liking my new G20, but it still seems a different beast from the E90.

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Having owned every 3er generation, can never wrap my head around those who praise the E9x era or even more perplexing like it over other generations. "Okayest" cars BMW has ever made, especially from a design standpoint. Nothing remarkable about the E9x era and in my opinion broke some design cues which make BMW, such as a driver slanted dash. Instead they just place this plank dashboard atrocity in there and just junky Chris Bangle era design, also found in the E60 5 series even worse. They just felt bloated, and non cohesive in their design, like an awkward step into modernism. Somehow the E82 1 Series dodged that bullet despite being essentially the same technology and time period, had that car (135i) and loved it, so can see why some people like the era. The problem with the E90 is primarily design, but let's be honest that matters.

Every other era feels like the car is designed around you, where the E9x felt more like an assembly of parts. Would never buy another E90 even though it was a good getting around car. F30 crushes it in how much I enjoy the car overall.

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G20, E46, F30, E30, E36, all in about the same regard, each with their unique character and style and..... E9x in a very distant last. The E9X broke too many design cues which make BMW great.
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Case in point on F30 design perfection, my baby:

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Case in point on F30 design perfection, my baby:

The F30 M-Sport is a great looking car.
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
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All ///M4's are hot.
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Agree but feel that pretty much all E9x's fall in this worst category, regardless of trim. Maybe the M3 gets a pass. Also, the E9x is aging horribly, even in a great trim.
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
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I agree that the f80/82 are works of art, and the e90 3-series looks "meh ok", but it's not a fair comparison showing an f82 with all the fixings in show room condition vs a 2007 3-series on a "no credit, no problem" used car lot.
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The higher powered E30s were pretty awesome cars (325i, M3) but the E90 M3 is my personal favorite. A supercar engine in the $60k range, great front end and steering, good seats etc. unbelievable.
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
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Bit unfair though showing a new M4 against a E90 on SE trim?

The way I world word it is that the E9x M cars were subtle in their styling compared to all the loud spoilers and styling cues of the current M generation.
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
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I agree that the f80/82 are works of art, and the e90 3-series looks "meh ok", but it's not a fair comparison showing an f82 with all the fixings in show room condition vs a 2007 3-series on a "no credit, no problem" used car lot.
+1 ... Exactly my reaction when I first saw these two pics

Now let's do it the other way, an M4 pic from Bob's Affordable Used Cars lot and a brand new E90
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
To eloborate:

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I agree that the f80/82 are works of art, and the e90 3-series looks "meh ok", but it's not a fair comparison showing an f82 with all the fixings in show room condition vs a 2007 3-series on a "no credit, no problem" used car lot.
+1 ... Exactly my reaction when I first saw these two pics

Now let's do it the other way, an M4 pic from Bob's Affordable Used Cars lot and a brand new E90
The ///M4 will still win.
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Much more appropriate response, and you made your point very well. That E90 ///M3 photo almost makes me miss mine (...and I owned 3 E9X ///M3's). Almost!
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Well that is not fairer, that's just missunderstanding something that is clearly stated

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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
I don't see any F82 comp or non-M E90 in your post.
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IMO G20 and E46.
And the worst are E36 and F30.
Looks-wise, the best looking is F82 Comp, the worst is non-M E90 sedan IMO.
I said that IMO (In my opinion) non-M E90 (in SE trim) is the worst looking 3-4 series ever, and F82 (Not F30, not F32) comp is the best looking. And pictures belong to those 2 cars. That's it. That's not about fairness.
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Much more appropriate response, and you made your point very well. That E90 ///M3 photo almost makes me miss mine (...and I owned 3 E9X ///M3's). Almost!
Indeed, I feel exactly the same! The E90 M3 in the pic was mine and miss it loads!
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