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      01-12-2019, 08:20 PM   #23
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BMW needs to offer 5000 and 7500 mile options like they've done with Mini in SF Cali.

Some of us city dwellers only need a car for fun evening and weekend driving.
I was able to get a 7500 lease on a new X3 M40i...We typically only do about 4000 a year, but I was tired of turning in cars with 1/3 of the miles on them so I asked if I could do a super low mile lease and it wasn't a problem.
Nice going!

And what major Metropolitan city do you live near?
Were in the Tampa area...I work from home and my wife's commute to the hospital is about 5mi round trip. Most of our miles go on the i3, but even that is around 3k a year just popping around town.
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We're into the month of February!

Any idea when we'll have the leasing programs available?
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      02-01-2019, 11:54 AM   #25
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We're into the month of February!

Any idea when we'll have the leasing programs available?
Answering my own question, based on looking at the Offers section of the BMW deals site.

Looks like there is only 1K of conquest and for 10K the RV is 60%. Unsure on MF since that's not detailed, but APR for finance is 2.89 which results in a MF 0.00120 (seems far too low). For non MY19 3's, looks like the MF is 0.00188, so perhaps that's a better guesstimate.
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We've posted the February 2019 lease program rates! @ https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1571094

Sorry for the earlier error - the M340i rates are not yet available.
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February 2019 Lease Program:

330i (2019MY)
15k miles / 57% residual
12k miles / 59% residual
10k miles / 60% residual

$1,000 APR credit
$2,000 loyalty credit
These residuals are lease for how long? 2 years? 3 years?
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February 2019 Lease Program:

330i (2019MY)
15k miles / 57% residual
12k miles / 59% residual
10k miles / 60% residual

$1,000 APR credit
$2,000 loyalty credit
These residuals are lease for how long? 2 years? 3 years?

36 months is the default standard for BMW unless otherwise specified.
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Yikes steep residual.
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I'm sure it will change after a few months of sales when they get a better ideal of resale value. First model year, and first months are lowest. Probably not much of a discount yet until supply exceeds demand.
Steep residual on a lease is a good thing.
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money factors

Aren't residuals on a stand alone basis nearly useless? When considering the residual without the money factor, you are only working with half of the equation.

In my experience, with higher residuals, they do less incentives on the money factors. And when residuals come down toward the end of a model year, they incentivize the money factors to balance it.

Perhaps I'm missing something!?
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Aren't residuals on a stand alone basis nearly useless? When considering the residual without the money factor, you are only working with half of the equation.

In my experience, with higher residuals, they do less incentives on the money factors. And when residuals come down toward the end of a model year, they incentivize the money factors to balance it.

Perhaps I'm missing something!?
As I understand it, money factors are not permitted to be revealed hence why they are not posted. Since I have no affiliation with BMW, I can tell you that the base money factor across the board is .00188 with the normal possible maximum markup of .0004.
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Aren't residuals on a stand alone basis nearly useless? When considering the residual without the money factor, you are only working with half of the equation.

In my experience, with higher residuals, they do less incentives on the money factors. And when residuals come down toward the end of a model year, they incentivize the money factors to balance it.

Perhaps I'm missing something!?
Bmws money factors do not fluctuate wildly month to month and are the same across their model range. However in the last two years they had progressively trended upward. The residuals see more variation during the annual sales cycle as well as incentives
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Aren't residuals on a stand alone basis nearly useless? When considering the residual without the money factor, you are only working with half of the equation.

In my experience, with higher residuals, they do less incentives on the money factors. And when residuals come down toward the end of a model year, they incentivize the money factors to balance it.

Perhaps I'm missing something!?
You do need the MF combined with the residual to figure out the exact lease amount but knowing the residual isn't really useless on its own.
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      02-06-2019, 05:45 PM   #34
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Hi everyone! I'd love your input on this quote I received. I have to be honest I'm not super thrilled but would love your advice.

This is to replace my wife's '16 X1. I'm leaning toward getting her into the 3, while she's also considering just buying the X1 - she loves the size but I dont like the lack of surround view / etc for her.

Thanks!

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Thank you for taking the time to talk.

Below are the lease details:

Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment 652.46
Security Deposits 0.00
Acquisition Fee 0.00
IL Fees & IL Plates 400.81
Upfront Taxes 0.00
Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,000.00
Total Inception Fees 5,053.27

Rate Information
Disclosed Rate 0.00208

Residual Information
MSRP 53,745.00
Residual (Base) 57.00
Residual (Bump) % 3.00
Residual (Bump) $ 0.00
Additional Miles Adj. (0.00)
Odometer Over Adj. (0.00)
Total Residual 32,247.00
Purchase Option 32,247.00

Capitalized Cost Breakdown
Option Price 299.00
Total Selling Price 52,044.00
Acquisition Fee 925.00
Fees & Insurance 0.00
- Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,000.00
- Trade In 0.00
- Customer Rebate 2,000.00
Total Capital Reduction -6,000.00
Capital Cost 46,969.00
Capped Taxes 2,092.87
Total Capital Cost: 49,061.87

Tax Breakdown
Type Amt Rate Paid
Upfront Tax 2,092.87 7.0000 Capped

Mileage Information
Allowed Miles Per Year 10,000
Mileage Program 10,000
Add. Purchased Miles per Yr 0.00
Additional Miles Chrg 0.20
Total Mileage Chrg 0.00
Total Mileage Allowed 30,000
Excess Mileage Chrg 0.25



Here is the lease buyout on your X1 that we can help you with:
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      02-06-2019, 09:01 PM   #35
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Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,000.00
Don't do this. If your car is totaled you're out the $4k.
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      02-06-2019, 10:58 PM   #36
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Hi everyone! I'd love your input on this quote I received. I have to be honest I'm not super thrilled but would love your advice.

This is to replace my wife's '16 X1. I'm leaning toward getting her into the 3, while she's also considering just buying the X1 - she loves the size but I dont like the lack of surround view / etc for her.

Thanks!

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Thank you for taking the time to talk.

Below are the lease details:

Amount Due at Signing
1st Month Payment 652.46
Security Deposits 0.00
Acquisition Fee 0.00
IL Fees & IL Plates 400.81
Upfront Taxes 0.00
Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,000.00
Total Inception Fees 5,053.27

Rate Information
Disclosed Rate 0.00208

Residual Information
MSRP 53,745.00
Residual (Base) 57.00
Residual (Bump) % 3.00
Residual (Bump) $ 0.00
Additional Miles Adj. (0.00)
Odometer Over Adj. (0.00)
Total Residual 32,247.00
Purchase Option 32,247.00

Capitalized Cost Breakdown
Option Price 299.00
Total Selling Price 52,044.00
Acquisition Fee 925.00
Fees & Insurance 0.00
- Cap Reduction (Cash) 4,000.00
- Trade In 0.00
- Customer Rebate 2,000.00
Total Capital Reduction -6,000.00
Capital Cost 46,969.00
Capped Taxes 2,092.87
Total Capital Cost: 49,061.87

Tax Breakdown
Type Amt Rate Paid
Upfront Tax 2,092.87 7.0000 Capped

Mileage Information
Allowed Miles Per Year 10,000
Mileage Program 10,000
Add. Purchased Miles per Yr 0.00
Additional Miles Chrg 0.20
Total Mileage Chrg 0.00
Total Mileage Allowed 30,000
Excess Mileage Chrg 0.25



Here is the lease buyout on your X1 that we can help you with:
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Terrible deal.. A very loose rule of thumb is to aim for a monthly payment close to 1% of MSRP.. unless I could get under 550 monthly with 0 down, I would not do it..this is regardless of brand new model or not.. BMW 3 series are dime a dozen, I would just shop around.. but I also understand it depends on how badly and how soon you want to get into a new car..Also, I think base MF is 0.00188 and like the other poster said, it is recommended to go 0 down on leases
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Terrible deal.. A very loose rule of thumb is to aim for a monthly payment close to 1% of MSRP.. unless I could get under 550 monthly with 0 down, I would not do it..this is regardless of brand new model or not.. BMW 3 series are dime a dozen, I would just shop around.. but I also understand it depends on how badly and how soon you want to get into a new car..Also, I think base MF is 0.00188 and like the other poster said, it is recommended to go 0 down on leases
You need to work on getting that sale price down. That looks like a lease for a $65k car, not a $50k car.
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Quick question, can you combine the $2000 loyalty credit and $1,000 APR credit for a total of $3000 off or it it either/or?

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Quick question, can you combine the $2000 loyalty credit and $1,000 APR credit for a total of $3000 off or it it either/or?

Thank you
I could be wrong but thought the 2K was for lease and 1K for finance?
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March 2019 program posted - change change.
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March 2019 program posted - change change.
Hi Jason, I don't see any change in your rates compared to February. However, for my zip code, BMW website shows $1000 for loyalty, $750 APR. I'm confused...
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Hi Jason, I don't see any change in your rates compared to February. However, for my zip code, BMW website shows $1000 for loyalty, $750 APR. I'm confused...
Hello, as the first post states:

Please note that the incentives in your local market may differ.
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      03-07-2019, 08:23 AM   #43
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Hopefully April is better. By that point, BMWNA will have a better idea over how these are selling and incentivize (as necessary).
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Hey Jason, was wondering if the April numbers are out yet ?
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