Door opening when driving

marksandygill · 11-28-2021, 10:03 AM

So driving my niece who is 3 in a car seat along the motorway, she reaches over and opens the rear door?!
I have lock doors after pulling away selected so should this be possible?!

Charlie (Wessex) · 11-28-2021, 10:06 AM

Double pull?

bmnut · 11-28-2021, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

So driving my niece who is 3 in a car seat along the motorway, she reaches over and opens the rear door?!
I have lock doors after pulling away selected so should this be possible?!

She pulled on the door release twice in succession possibly?

bmnut · 11-28-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie (Wessex)

Double pull?

You beat me to it Charlie!

P-ToK72 · 11-28-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

So driving my niece who is 3 in a car seat along the motorway, she reaches over and opens the rear door?!
I have lock doors after pulling away selected so should this be possible?!

Is there not a child lock on the back doors?

marksandygill · 11-28-2021, 10:40 AM

Yeah there are child locks, going to put them on now, guess I never thought with all the safety systems that the car has, it will still let you jump out at 70mph?!😆

bmnut · 11-28-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by P-ToK72

Is there not a child lock on the back doors?

Should be I'd have thought. There is a window lock out on the driver's door window control panel I believe?

Can the rear door pulls be locked out through iDrive or with levers on the door mechanisms themselves?

bmnut · 11-28-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

Yeah there are child locks, going to put them on now, guess I never thought with all the safety systems that the car has, it will still let you jump out at 70mph?!😆

Beaten to it again!

UnluckySaxon · 11-29-2021, 03:45 AM

Theres a manual switch on the rear doors. Use the key in your fob to switch it to child lock, takes two seconds.

marksandygill · 11-29-2021, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UnluckySaxon

Theres a manual switch on the rear doors. Use the key in your fob to switch it to child lock, takes two seconds.

Done that now, my issue is more that you can open the doors at 70mph, I mean with all the safety features modern cars have, how is that right?!

UnluckySaxon · 11-29-2021, 11:08 AM

Yeah I hear ya! Also how can a car with a 50k list price not have blind spot warnings ffs!!

HighlandPete · 11-29-2021, 01:32 PM

A little lesson here guys... Read the User Manual!

marksandygill · 11-29-2021, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

A little lesson here guys... Read the User Manual!

You mean the section on child locks/safety switches where it states 'there might be times it is advisable to secure the rear doors'?

Because at other times it's okay to be able to open the doors at 70mph?!

HighlandPete · 11-29-2021, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

You mean the section on child locks/safety switches where it states 'there might be times it is advisable to secure the rear doors'?

Because at other times it's okay to be able to open the doors at 70mph?!

Any adult that is stupid enough to pull the handle twice... do you want them in the back of your car?

330Stevie · 11-30-2021, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Any adult that is stupid enough to pull the handle twice... do you want them in the back of your car?

Exactly this!
We have to accept some responsibility for actions folks!!

marksandygill · 12-01-2021, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 330Stevie

Exactly this!
We have to accept some responsibility for actions folks!!

But again, my issue isn't with adults being able to open the rear doors, it's with a 3 year old being able to do so

Given all the safety features on modern cars how it is still possible to open the doors on a motorway?

Why have something that locks the doors when you pull away but they can still be opened by double pulling the handle?

I have had a child in the front seat before on a long journey as it was just me and them, with no child lock they could have jumped for it!

I'm all for taking responsibility but I can't see why you should be able to open the doors at 70mph?!

Jackrack · 12-01-2021, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

But again, my issue isn't with adults being able to open the rear doors, it's with a 3 year old being able to do so

Given all the safety features on modern cars how it is still possible to open the doors on a motorway?

Why have something that locks the doors when you pull away but they can still be opened by double pulling the handle?

I have had a child in the front seat before on a long journey as it was just me and them, with no child lock they could have jumped for it!

I'm all for taking responsibility but I can't see why you should be able to open the doors at 70mph?!

You can also open the door on a plane travelling 400mph+

HighlandPete · 12-01-2021, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

But again, my issue isn't with adults being able to open the rear doors, it's with a 3 year old being able to do so

Given all the safety features on modern cars how it is still possible to open the doors on a motorway?

I thought that was answered with the child locks.

I'm sure there are reasons why it doesn't deadlock 100%, while driving. I wonder if there are regulations which may apply. I've heard the case for not wanting the car locked at all, the "what ifs" in an accident situation.

xenon · 12-01-2021, 07:17 AM

In an accident situation the doors unlock anyway but the doors locking when you drive away is a security feature rather than a safety one.
In all my years I've never read of anyone opening a door at 70mph and falling out but I guess it's possible. In order for it to be a real danger though our hapless passenger would need to pull the door handle twice, undo or disentangle themselves from the seatbelt, push open the door against a 70mph slipstream, and then tumble out. To be frank I can see why this somewhat unlikely scenario hasn't been discussed all that often.

paulockenden · 12-01-2021, 08:20 AM

I was just about to mention the fact that it won't be easy to open a door at 70mph, but @xenon beat me to it.

330Stevie · 12-01-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by marksandygill

But again, my issue isn't with adults being able to open the rear doors, it's with a 3 year old being able to do so

Given all the safety features on modern cars how it is still possible to open the doors on a motorway?

Why have something that locks the doors when you pull away but they can still be opened by double pulling the handle?

I have had a child in the front seat before on a long journey as it was just me and them, with no child lock they could have jumped for it!

I'm all for taking responsibility but I can't see why you should be able to open the doors at 70mph?!

If you have kids that don’t no better, put them in the back and engage child locks.

Just think of all the Hollywood films that would be unrealistic if you couldn’t open a door under any circumstances at 70mph!

ramparts · 12-02-2021, 02:31 AM

so this isn't how to drive ?

11-28-2021, 10:03 AM	#1
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11-28-2021, 10:40 AM	#6
marksandygill First Lieutenant 240 Rep 388 Posts Drives: G20 320d xDrive F22 M240i Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Yeah there are child locks, going to put them on now, guess I never thought with all the safety systems that the car has, it will still let you jump out at 70mph?!😆
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11-29-2021, 03:45 AM	#9
UnluckySaxon Private First Class 62 Rep 190 Posts Drives: BMW 330e G20 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Theres a manual switch on the rear doors. Use the key in your fob to switch it to child lock, takes two seconds.
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xenon Major General 1394 Rep 8,081 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	In an accident situation the doors unlock anyway but the doors locking when you drive away is a security feature rather than a safety one. In all my years I've never read of anyone opening a door at 70mph and falling out but I guess it's possible. In order for it to be a real danger though our hapless passenger would need to pull the door handle twice, undo or disentangle themselves from the seatbelt, push open the door against a 70mph slipstream, and then tumble out. To be frank I can see why this somewhat unlikely scenario hasn't been discussed all that often. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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paulockenden Major 575 Rep 1,219 Posts Drives: 330e xDrive Touring Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: South Coast iTrader: (0)	I was just about to mention the fact that it won't be easy to open a door at 70mph, but @xenon beat me to it.
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