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      12-03-2021, 02:26 PM   #1
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At a crossroads with M340. Love the car, but the market is telling me to unload. Like everyone probably, I've contemplated new G80 M3 and it's monster S58 engine, but personally I can't commit to it's appearance. I want to love it, I just don't. Not too mention, my dealership has 8 people on M3 waiting list with orders and won't even take another order at the moment.

Then came the 2022 X3M Competition. Shares the S58 motor and provides a little more practicality. I lug around 2 small kids so it's an easier sell to the wife. Not too mention she thinks the M340 seats are terrible (she has no clue).

Appointment at dealership at the end of the month for software update and oil change. We'll see how it goes (if I don't place order sooner).

Anyone else made this switch or at least considered sedan to SAV?

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At a crossroads with M340. Love the car, but the market is telling me to unload. Like everyone probably, I've contemplated new G80 M3 and it's monster S58 engine, but personally I can't commit to it's appearance. I want to love it, I just don't. Not too mention, my dealership has 8 people on M3 waiting list with orders and won't even take another order at the moment.

Then came the 2022 X3M Competition. Shares the S58 motor and provides a little more practicality. I lug around 2 small kids so it's an easier sell to the wife. Not too mention she thinks the M340 seats are terrible (she has no clue).

Appointment at dealership at the end of the month for software update and oil change. We'll see how it goes (if I don't place order sooner).

Anyone else made this switch or at least considered sedan to SAV?

(If I trade M340 I will have quality parts to sell on here).
I have considered the exact same thing. I have had too many software issues with my car and I could really use the practicality of an SAV. No kids to haul around at this point, but two 3 series cars for us means little to no cargo space.
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      12-03-2021, 10:17 PM   #3
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At a crossroads with M340. Love the car, but the market is telling me to unload. Like everyone probably, I've contemplated new G80 M3 and it's monster S58 engine, but personally I can't commit to it's appearance. I want to love it, I just don't. Not too mention, my dealership has 8 people on M3 waiting list with orders and won't even take another order at the moment.

Then came the 2022 X3M Competition. Shares the S58 motor and provides a little more practicality. I lug around 2 small kids so it's an easier sell to the wife. Not too mention she thinks the M340 seats are terrible (she has no clue).

Appointment at dealership at the end of the month for software update and oil change. We'll see how it goes (if I don't place order sooner).

Anyone else made this switch or at least considered sedan to SAV?

(If I trade M340 I will have quality parts to sell on here).
I have considered the exact same thing. I have had too many software issues with my car and I could really use the practicality of an SAV. No kids to haul around at this point, but two 3 series cars for us means little to no cargo space.
Two sedans would be tough. We do have an suv which I consider the spawn carrier (a Palisade). I do love the M340 but it may be the right time to move on.
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      12-04-2021, 12:38 AM   #4
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I was in the same boat. My lease is up in 6 months and wanted a M5 but I would be 7th on the list and even longer for M3. This was at Passport BMW and they have no idea how long it would take to get. I ended up buying out my lease and selling my car to a used car dealer and ordering a Plaid which will be here next Friday.
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It’s amazing how many people lease this car…

Anyhow, I did the opposite. I traded in a SUV for this car. Totally enough space and practical for having kids. I wanted the performance as well, which for an SUV will be much more costly and forever compromised (in my opinion). Plus our family already has a minivan for those trips where much more space is needed
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I was in the same boat. My lease is up in 6 months and wanted a M5 but I would be 7th on the list and even longer for M3. This was at Passport BMW and they have no idea how long it would take to get. I ended up buying out my lease and selling my car to a used car dealer and ordering a Plaid which will be here next Friday.
Ugh, Tesla….

No thanks—EVER
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There's an issue with the S58 engine so you may want to go over to the M thread and read about the recall. People are pissed they can't seem to get the M engines working without issues.
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Parting out. Go see my General G20 Sedan thread if interested. Quality parts to go.
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Ugh, Tesla….

No thanks—EVER
LOL yeah I said the same thing but here I am. I get tired of cars quickly and Tesla was the only one that can actually deliver a car with all options in a timely manner. When cars finally become available again I can always go back.
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LOL yeah I said the same thing but here I am. I get tired of cars quickly and Tesla was the only one that can actually deliver a car with all options in a timely manner. When cars finally become available again I can always go back.
You already had a great car. If you got bored then you should’ve modified the exhaust. But a Tesla?

The fact that nothing else is available yet you can still buy a Tesla speaks volumes. It’s the ultimate anti-enthusiast machine. People who view cars as appliances drive Teslas. And don’t quote me 0-60 times, that misses the point by a mile.
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Guys, respect his position, it's his right to get the Tesla, plus it's his money and he's had an M340i already. Let's not start crapping on fellow members choices.
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Guys, respect his position, it's his right to get the Tesla, plus it's his money and he's had an M340i already. Let's not start crapping on fellow members choices.
I concur.
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You already had a great car. If you got bored then you should’ve modified the exhaust. But a Tesla?

The fact that nothing else is available yet you can still buy a Tesla speaks volumes. It’s the ultimate anti-enthusiast machine. People who view cars as appliances drive Teslas. And don’t quote me 0-60 times, that misses the point by a mile.
Everyone has an opinion and I always like the discussion so no harm no foul. I already had my car tuned with MP stage 2 and a high flow cat so an exhaust really wouldn’t do much for me at this point to keep my interest. As ugly as the M3 front is I would’ve taken that but no way I could get my hands on one new in the near future.

As far as getting the Plaid, the wait times on those are only one month because they don’t sell much of them and it’s more profit. A regular Model S has a wait until 3rd quarter 2022.
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Guys, respect his position, it's his right to get the Tesla, plus it's his money and he's had an M340i already. Let's not start crapping on fellow members choices.
Oh give me a break with the sermonizing, we all know it’s his money and he can buy whatever car he wants.

But I get to say that it’s a really weird decision to cross shop an M car and a damn anti-enthusiast appliance like a Tesla.

It just makes no sense, that’s all. No intention to hurt feelings here, it’s just cars we are talking about, so….

Speaking for myself, if I couldn’t get an M car I would WAIT for one. Never in a million years would I buy a Tesla instead. There are other options. Tesla for me isn’t an option. That’s me, obviously you all have your own opinions—no offense intended to anyone.
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Oh give me a break with the sermonizing, we all know it’s his money and he can buy whatever car he wants.

But I get to say that it’s a really weird decision to cross shop an M car and a damn anti-enthusiast appliance like a Tesla.

It just makes no sense, that’s all. No intention to hurt feelings here, it’s just cars we are talking about, so….

Speaking for myself, if I couldn’t get an M car I would WAIT for one. Never in a million years would I buy a Tesla instead. There are other options. Tesla for me isn’t an option. That’s me, obviously you all have your own opinions—no offense intended to anyone.
But you didn't get an M car...
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^ Touché

But at least it makes noise. And when that AWE exhaust arrives, it will make more noise!

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One other thing that is annoying about BMW is the whole anti-tuning thing going on with them. I get it that it could cost them money with people working the system if their engine goes up based on a tune but as an enthusiast, it takes the fun out of owning it.

I had lost a bunch of features from a software update at one point and didn't realize it at the time and I sent my ECU across the country to get it flashed and it was impossible for me to get those features back by taking it to get the software updated again while keeping my tune and locking my ECU again. So I basically lived with less features because of it. Now that I detuned my car so I can sell it, I took it in for the software update and all the features are now there again.

The Plaid will be my daily driver, I still have my GTR if I want to drive an ICE car on the weekend.
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I have both X3M comp and M340i xDrive. Both are 2020. The X3M is a conundrum to me and definitely a niche vehicle that isn't for everyone. There are scenarios where it feels bumpy and rough one moment and then reasonably compliant the next. To me it's one of those cars I enjoy but passengers might not. It truly is an M3 on stilts. If you haven't driven one, it is a vastly different experience than the M340i. For comfort and gas cost, I've gone back to M340i for my 40 mile round trip daily commute and other than weekend adventures, I'm enjoying the M340i slightly more.
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One other thing that is annoying about BMW is the whole anti-tuning thing going on with them. I get it that it could cost them money with people working the system if their engine goes up based on a tune but as an enthusiast, it takes the fun out of owning it.

I had lost a bunch of features from a software update at one point and didn't realize it at the time and I sent my ECU across the country to get it flashed and it was impossible for me to get those features back by taking it to get the software updated again while keeping my tune and locking my ECU again. So I basically lived with less features because of it. Now that I detuned my car so I can sell it, I took it in for the software update and all the features are now there again.

The Plaid will be my daily driver, I still have my GTR if I want to drive an ICE car on the weekend.
Yeah, I have no plans to tune my BMW, but exhaust mods? Oh yeah!
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I have both X3M comp and M340i xDrive. Both are 2020. The X3M is a conundrum to me and definitely a niche vehicle that isn't for everyone. There are scenarios where it feels bumpy and rough one moment and then reasonably compliant the next. To me it's one of those cars I enjoy but passengers might not. It truly is an M3 on stilts. If you haven't driven one, it is a vastly different experience than the M340i. For comfort and gas cost, I've gone back to M340i for my 40 mile round trip daily commute and other than weekend adventures, I'm enjoying the M340i slightly more.
Appreciate the input. I was able to look at a 2022 X3MC over the weekend and placed an order. Was able to snag a January allocation too.

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Thankfully my used to be daily 30 (each way) commute is now zero (WFH) so gas milage wasn't too much of a factor.

Can't wait for the car.
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Appreciate the input. I was able to look at a 2022 X3MC over the weekend and placed an order. Was able to snag a January allocation too.

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Thankfully my used to be daily 30 (each way) commute is now zero (WFH) so gas milage wasn't too much of a factor.

Can't wait for the car.
^ Congrats! Are you going to trade in your M340i or keep it?
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Appreciate the input. I was able to look at a 2022 X3MC over the weekend and placed an order. Was able to snag a January allocation too.

2022 X3M Competition
Brooklyn Grey
Black Alacantra w/Midrand beige
892M wheels

Thankfully my used to be daily 30 (each way) commute is now zero (WFH) so gas milage wasn't too much of a factor.

Can't wait for the car.
^ Congrats! Are you going to trade in your M340i or keep it?
Thanks, I'll be Trading the 2020 M340 (or for sale if anyone wants it). My wife has a family car, so we won't need a third (barely need 2 at this point).

Also have quality parts to get rid of (795M wheels, DP, JB4, etc). If you or anyone is interested, send me a message.
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