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      06-12-2020, 10:45 PM   #45
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
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479 whp? That would be the first stock M2 that read that high to the wheels in history.

Also, it kind of looks like different days/temperatures.

Not saying the M340 cannot scoot fast as hell, but nothing about this is near scientific.

Oh and I forgot, regardless of whether an AWD M340 is fast in straight line, take them both to the same track or the same canyon and tell me with a straight face you would rather have the M340 than an actual M car.

We went to an M Track Days at Thermal with BMWCCA back in January and I drove both back to back on their autocross course and the deficiencies on the M340 in comparison to the M2C in control, planted feeling, capability is very apparent.

Though the M340 was not a bad car all said. Definitely better than previous 335/340s compared to their respective M iterations.

Probably going to get shit on for this post, so let me just say that this is my subjective opinion, and I concede that the M340 is definitely quick.
I won't crap on you for your opinion. I think people get caught up in "this is better than that" when in reality, most of us car guys want them both. I've driven the M2C and when I drove it I loved every bit of the performance aspect of it. I immediately felt like I was in a race car and it drove and handled like a race car. Fast, light, quick handling, and was fun as f*ck. I was in love with it for the short time I drove it but there were things I didn't like about it. It doesn't by any means make it a bad or less good car than the M340i I wound up with but for me, it wasn't the right car. I have autocrossed an M340i and it was really impressive but would the M2C been more fun? Most likely but I don't autocross anymore so back to the everyday awesomeness of the M340.

The M2C was small and cramped. It's a small car and that's part of what makes it good but it's not what I wanted for a DD and I have a kid which the M2 doesn't accommodate as well as the M340. The M2C was awesome at being a race car on the street but I don't want that feeling in a DD. It's just not for me. To me, and probably everyone who has one, the M340 is the best blend of power, performance, tech, sport, comfort, size, and price that BMW offers the enthusiast right now. It does so many things so well.

The M2C is probably the best "pure" M car right now and I would love one. If I won the lottery I'd probably get one but it wouldn't be my only car. The M340 is the best overall BMW right now. They're both good. They're just made for different purposes.

Did I mention I want them both?
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Completely agree and is the reason why I replaced my M2 with an M340i.

Contemplated going for a F80 M3C but besides the dated interior and crank hub floor I just couldn't get past the lack lustre exhaust note of the S55! The M340i just makes a better DD IMO.
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Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for not making what is 30 seconds of footage into 20 minutes of mindless chit chat like 99% of YouTubers do.
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I would take the M2 on looks alone

OMG what a car, every time I see one on the road I start drooling
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I just tested my M2C against my bro M340i Xdrive, after several passes the best time for the M2C was 12,96 against 12,6 for the M340i, the new G20 is a beast, it pulls from the line like a freighter, after driving both cars I can say the new B58 engine its way better than the S55, the sound is way better, so much that you don`t want to hear the rasppy S55 again, both cars have downpipes and were tested in the exact same place, the time corrected for the slope was 12,52 (m2) vs 12,32 (m340), be aware that this test was performed at over 9800 ft so times are about a second slower than at sea level. The M2C was tested at the dyno and it throw 479 whp so respect for the new M340i.

Figured that was going to be the case.
M2C was made from a BMW parts bin, it's not really a newly engineered car like the M8.

either way. I regret owning an M2.
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As a previous comment mentioned....the car's power is really about trap speeds. So when comparing the 107+ to 111+, that's a fairly significant gap. Furthermore....the "real life" test you'd experience on a road is passing speed, and the M2C would definitely pull on the m340xi in any kind of real world matchup on the road.

Thanks for posting! It's still fun to see good comparisons like that.
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M2 = manual available. M340i = NO manual available. Winner by a LAND SLIDE = M2 !!!!!

No real enthusiast wants to own a car where the computer does all the shifting. Might as well just get an Xbox if you do.

I'll do my own driving and shifting, thank you.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
yes, it is not a "real" m car. but it is a very sophosticated engine. up to date in every way.
the m340i will not beat the upcomming m3 or m4! no doubt.

but it kills the m3 e46, e90 and m2. further... the m340i is very close to the m2c, a little better driving skills behind the steering wheel and the f80 m3 driver will be struggeling, too.

my m340i with mhd stage 2 can beat every stock f80. it can also keep up with f80's on stage 1.


so... it doesnt matter if my car is a real m. dont give a sh about badges. just driving 😂
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Fanboys will be mad but I have said it before--the S55 is a compromised engine from worse economic times. The B58 is a monster and the S58 is the one you want in an M2. Next gen will be great.
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I would only given one recommendation to someone buying an M340i... definitely don't get one new... bcuz a slightly used one will save you a lot of money lol.
Can't argue with that advice...but wouldn't it apply to absolutely every car out there?
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I would only given one recommendation to someone buying an M340i... definitely don't get one new... bcuz a slightly used one will save you a lot of money lol.
Can't argue with that advice...but wouldn't it apply to absolutely every car out there?
well it applies more to ones w an awful resale value
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

LOL
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I would only given one recommendation to someone buying an M340i... definitely don't get one new... bcuz a slightly used one will save you a lot of money lol.
Can't argue with that advice...but wouldn't it apply to absolutely every car out there?
well it applies more to ones w an awful resale value
True - but I am not aware that the M340 has noticeably worse resale than most other BMWs. May be wrong though, as I'm not really following the depreciation of M340s or any other car.
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You're never going to agree with me but the S55 isn't an awesome engine and I'd much rather have the B58 or something based on it. It's a stronger design that's capable of handling a lot more power than the S55. Not to mention the sound of the B58 is way better than the S55. No crank hubs to worry about either.

The B58 is a beast I'm really looking forward to seeing what the S58 does in the new M3/M4.

Personally, I bought an M340i which I'll probably trade in for the new M3 in a couple years if the whole economy hasn't hit the toilet by then.

Haha... this guy... there’s nothing special about B58, it’s a mainstream BMW engine. S55 was developed and tuned by M division. I’m glad you like your m340 but cmon dude, it’s glorified 340i.
When the f80 was first introduced, some were disappointed because the s55 is based on the n55 engine. Yes, it's different from the n55, but it isn't such a radical departure like the s65 was in the e90 era M3. The s65 bore no resemblance to the regular e90 3 series motors.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

LOL
The M2 is a real M car.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

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The M2 is a real M car.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

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The M2 is a real M car.
Lol I own one and trust me compared to m3 it's certainly not. It wears a badge.
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Lol I own one and trust me compared to m3 it's certainly not. It wears a badge.
LOL, this lady has been through a VW Rabbit, an A4, a 325i, a used M3 and a used M5 and thinks she knows what 'real' cars are. LOL
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yes, it is not a "real" m car. but it is a very sophosticated engine. up to date in every way.
the m340i will not beat the upcomming m3 or m4! no doubt.

but it kills the m3 e46, e90 and m2. further... the m340i is very close to the m2c, a little better driving skills behind the steering wheel and the f80 m3 driver will be struggeling, too.

my m340i with mhd stage 2 can beat every stock f80. it can also keep up with f80's on stage 1.


so... it doesnt matter if my car is a real m. dont give a sh about badges. just driving 😂
Take it to the track... you’ll soon realize why all the cars you mentioned are far superior to M340, driver of M340 wouldn’t know which way those cars went lol
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Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

LOL
It’s a nice car, I like the looks of it too. It’s just too soft for my taste. Not to mention that it weighs close to 4000lbs.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

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The M2 is a real M car.
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So many dummies think m340 is a real M car
Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

LOL
The M2 is a real M car.
Lol I own one and trust me compared to m3 it's certainly not. It wears a badge.
Oh yeah that's probably why the Head of the M division says it's his favorite M car.

He must be stupid.
Or maybe..🧐
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The M2 is a real M car.
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Ya but even though it's not, its faster than the M2 (which is not a real M car), probably M3 and M4 off the line.

LOL
The M2 is a real M car.
Lol I own one and trust me compared to m3 it's certainly not. It wears a badge.
Wears the M* badge - check
Has an S* engine - check
Has a different body than a normal 2 series - check
Is not an m performance model (m240i) - check

Regardless of your ownership status or comparisons to the m3, the m2 is an m-car.
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