[RedKloud]

Just be thankful they didn't go with an all 4-cyl line up a' la Merc.

[Blubaron79]

Originally Posted by RigaTony1982

I'd be curious the split between the RWD/AWD models. I have never seen a RWD model in a dealers inventory here in Chicago when looking. Granted it's the Midwest, but figured I'd at least see a few.

It was always supposed to only be AWD, but they know how much Americans whine.

[ynguldyn]

M340i RWD is not cancelled, I simply haven't seen it to confirm that it does exist in metal.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

+1



You’ll never see anything other than xDrive in dealer inventory in Chicago. I just picked up a CPO RWD 2018 340i M Sport and I had to go to Texas to get it.



+1 - RWD G20s are easy to find in the south and west.



I absolutely hate this dash. I won’t buy an LCI because of that dash.

Even Chevrolet puts an actual, traditional instrument binnacle as part of their dash design in the all electric Bolt.

Yeah, because it has absolutely nothing to do with cost like so many people assume. The separate screen allows the dash to slope down like more traditional dashboards and gives the cabin a much airier feel. I remember the old E90 and E60s I had and those cabins felt almost claustrophobic due to the super high dashboard. I much prefer a low slung sleeker dashboard and a screen mounted like that. Also notice how low the screen is in the Bolt. That forces you to lower your eyes even more. Separating the screen from the dash allows the designers to have the screen as high as they want, and the dash as low as they want.

Anyway, to get so worked up about a screen in a BMW seems a bit ridiculous. If interior aesthetics is the most important thing about buying a car for you, Audi and Mercedes have almost always been better.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

However, the powertrains will remain the same across the board, with the lonely (and pretty much irrelevant) exception of Euro-only Alpina B3 bumping the power to 490hp.

and the EU also gets the B48O1ZIK with 10kW (13,4hp) less peak power for the 330i(x) models.

[bmwdrive]

I saw an i4 in person at a BMW event. The screen is different but doesn't look terrible. From the driver view it's a continuous screen that wraps around which is not bad. From the passenger side it does look bolted on which I don't like. I also prefer physical buttons. And I also don't think it's driver focused but more Tesla like instead. I guess that's what sells cars so that's what BMW has to do. There is no question that I prefer the current layout to this new setup.

[matbl]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Just buy a Tesla and call it a day. Bmw is an engine company after all.

Had one (Model S). Great drivetrain, good size, nice exterior but the rest sucked.
As I said, it's all about the interior, that's where I am when driving. I know a lot of people (especially americans) care more about the looks and the acceleration but I don't.
Back on 5-series since a couple of years.

[VetteGuy]

I don’t mind the concept of the screen. It’s the natural evolution of digital displays and it should work well with the iController. What I do mind is how it is “attached” to the car instead of built into the car like an add on. One of the things I really like about the G20/22 is how the infotainment screen sits lower and into the dash as opposed to so many cars that have it standing up high on top of the dash like they glued in an iPad.

[thaalrasha]

Originally Posted by VetteGuy

I don’t mind the concept of the screen. It’s the natural evolution of digital displays and it should work well with the iController. What I do mind is how it is “attached” to the car instead of built into the car like an add on. One of the things I really like about the G20/22 is how the infotainment screen sits lower and into the dash as opposed to so many cars that have it standing up high on top of the dash like they glued in an iPad.

I agree but there was an evloution of the implementation which is very obvious at Audi. They went full on screens everywhere, then on the latest e-tron gt they put back buttons for basic stuff such as climate controls.



Had BMW went through similar mindset i wouldn't mind all the screen stuff.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by thaalrasha

I agree but there was an evloution of the implementation which is very obvious at Audi. They went full on screens everywhere, then on the latest e-tron gt they put back buttons for basic stuff such as cliate controls.

[IMG]https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/lg...-e-tron-gt.jpg[/IMG]

Had BMW went through similar mindset i wouldn't mind all the screen stuff.

Bang on !

removing climate control physical buttons is just plain regression. I knew it would happen eventually that they would get so many complaints and would go back.

I just replaced my Q5 for an Atlas Cross Sport and although the infotainment system is fine, it is very distracting to use for simple tasks like hanging up the phone or fideling with the nav.

[canadianbimmerlover]

I'm honestly getting close to leaving the brand and it pains me. The new design language - both outside and in - is just awful. I can't handle most of what they have done.

[Encanto]

Originally Posted by VetteGuy

I don’t mind the concept of the screen. It’s the natural evolution of digital displays and it should work well with the iController. What I do mind is how it is “attached” to the car instead of built into the car like an add on. One of the things I really like about the G20/22 is how the infotainment screen sits lower and into the dash as opposed to so many cars that have it standing up high on top of the dash like they glued in an iPad.

Info screen high up top of dash (F30) means that the driver's vision is at the same level as the traffic thru the windshield.

[oonowindoo]

I dont really like the new screens but i dont mind it. not a deal breaker like the nose of the 4 series.

BMW set the bar so low with the grill on the 4 series, I find almost everything is tolerable now

[RedKloud]

Will be interesting to see what they've done with the taillights.

[bmwdrive]

Originally Posted by canadianbimmerlover

I'm honestly getting close to leaving the brand and it pains me. The new design language - both outside and in - is just awful. I can't handle most of what they have done.

Yes. I was planning to get the M3. I don't hate the new grill like others but I also don't love it. And buying an expensive car that half the world is laughing at doesn't feel good, no matter how fast it goes.

As far as the new curved screen, I've seen it and it doesn't look bad. But it also doesn't look like a driver focused car. Similar to a Tesla, the interior looks amazing but having bolted on iPads, curved or flat, is not my idea of a driver focused interior.

So it's the current M340i or a different brand. Sigh.

[DavidXJ]

Originally Posted by danf72

Yes. I was planning to get the M3. I don't hate the new grill like others but I also don't love it. And buying an expensive car that half the world is laughing at doesn't feel good, no matter how fast it goes.

As far as the new curved screen, I've seen it and it doesn't look bad. But it also doesn't look like a driver focused car. Similar to a Tesla, the interior looks amazing but having bolted on iPads, curved or flat, is not my idea of a driver focused interior.

So it's the current M340i or a different brand. Sigh.

You won't be disappointed with the current M340i (and if you don't mind picking up an approved-used 2020 build, then you'll have some theatrical exhaust acoustics to boot). To be sure, the G80 grille is growing on me; and 'in person' it actually appears strikingly smaller and more discreet than any of the professional shots made it seem in magazine reviews, with their stylised, road-level camera angles. And in any case, unless you're a track day aficionado, or keen on clinching range-topping bragging rights, the 40i will be all you'll ever need on the road. At the moment, of course, it also has a proper, non-Teslafied dash! I'd get one before they do away with the notched headlights (if those LCI projections are accurate).

[ynguldyn]

I can now predict that non-hybrid US models will get refreshed engines in March 2024.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I can now predict that non-hybrid US models will get refreshed engines in March 2024.

Still the same B motors with increased horsepower and torque?

[VetteGuy]

Originally Posted by Encanto

Info screen high up top of dash (F30) means that the driver's vision is at the same level as the traffic thru the windshield.

I understand that quite well, but it can also be an obstruction if mounted too high like many info screens currently are. My G22 layout is at the perfect elevation and using the steering wheel buttons I don’t even look at the info side that frequently while driving. The current G20/G22 cabin and display layout are the major reasons I bought the car. That’s where I spend my driving time.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Still the same B motors with increased horsepower and torque?

Same motors, their TÜ2's. Not clear about power though: like I mention in the top post, I don't see the B58O2 motor anywhere yet, so it's possible M340i/M440i will get B58M2, which makes 370hp in the X7 application. And I don't have any data about the next B48 at all.

[3ismagic#]

I am seriously considering going back to Alfa Romeo when my current G20 lease is up next summer.

[SweBmw3]

The G20/G21 will not get the new dashboard from the i4.

It wouldn't make sense since the all new 4-series GC have the same as the 3-series and not the one from i4.

If they where going all in for the new i4 dash why would they fit the old one in the new 4-series GC?