[totalone]

Hey guys .
Coming here from s5 b9. Yeah yeah I know what you all about to say

But, all jokes a side, we been very loyal to Audi cars in our family, but our local dealer decided to be a little ***** and not treat us as forever returning customers, so I decided to give a bmw a shot.

Currently I have s5 b9 sportback, and was thinking to swap for m340 or m440. The price is about the same so it is more of a personal preference at this point.

Going through build on bmw website I notice that m440 has option to add sport suspension l, where are m340 dose not. Question is, dose m340 and m440 come standard with adaptive dampers and is sport suspension worth the $700 upgrade?

Also when I mention m440 I am talking about gran coupe.

Thank you!

[r3dbimmer89]

Either will come standard with option 704 "M" Sport Suspension set-up but it is not adaptive. You will need to pay extra for adaptive dampers...you probably only see the option available for the M440i due to the ongoing chip shortage...in normal times the M340i has that option as well but is currently not universally available due to the current supply issues.

[totalone]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

Either will come standard with option 704 "M" Sport Suspension set-up but it is not adaptive. You will need to pay extra for adaptive dampers...you probably only see the option available for the M440i due to the ongoing chip shortage...in normal times the M340i has that option as well but is currently not universally available due to the current supply issues.

So, if I don't opt in for this I will not have adaptive dampers? Its not a standard feature?

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by totalone

So, if I don't opt in for this I will not have adaptive dampers? Its not a standard feature?

That is correct...it is not a standard option so the standard suspension set-up is a passive sport suspension (Lower and stiffer than a standard 330i or 430i). Not sure on these G2X cars but IIRC, the F3X cars' standard passive M sport suspension "stiffness" and "feel" were somewhere between the adaptive suspension's comfort setting and sport setting.

Only full blown ///M cars get adaptive suspension standard nowadays.

[totalone]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

That is correct...it is not a standard option so the standard suspension set-up is a passive sport suspension (Lower and stiffer than a standard 330i or 430i). Not sure on these G2X cars but IIRC, the F3X cars' standard passive M sport suspension "stiffness" and "feel" were somewhere between the adaptive suspension's comfort setting and sport setting.

Only full blown ///M cars get adaptive suspension standard nowadays.

Thanks for the info. Well thats rules out m340 really quick. How is m suspension compared to standard? Just curious.

[h4bvn]

I have just ordered a M340i XDrive in the UK. Adaptive suspension is standard on this vehicle over here. Might be worth double checking as I'm pretty confident it's a standard feature across both 340 and 440


Thanks

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by h4bvn

I have just ordered a M340i XDrive in the UK. Adaptive suspension is standard on this vehicle over here. Might be worth double checking as I'm pretty confident it's a standard feature across both 340 and 440


Thanks

Not in the US market...

[clearwaterms]

i'll be curious what you decide on. I came from a b9 s4 and decided to go to a 330iX deciding that the extra power of the six cylinder wasn't used all that often. The b9 S4 was such a "tweener car" in that it was too fast to enjoy all the time on the street and yet too compromised when autocrossing / on the track. For this reason I decided to save the money and went with the 4 cylinder.

[totalone]

I will definitely go 4 series. 3 series do not have adaptive suspension here. Also, 3 series is a bit small for me, I am 6.1 and I just don't like very small cars.
My s5 already barely enough space.

[totalone]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

i'll be curious what you decide on. I came from a b9 s4 and decided to go to a 330iX deciding that the extra power of the six cylinder wasn't used all that often. The b9 S4 was such a "tweener car" in that it was too fast to enjoy all the time on the street and yet too compromised when autocrossing / on the track. For this reason I decided to save the money and went with the 4 cylinder.

I will definitely go 4 series. 3 series do not have adaptive suspension here. Also, 3 series is a bit small for me, I am 6.1 and I just don't like very small cars.
My s5 already barely enough space.
I dont think ill go to 4 cylinder engine anytime soon. We have a plugin in our family for comfortable drive and my car is more of a fun ride.

[clearwaterms]

Originally Posted by totalone

I will definitely go 4 series. 3 series do not have adaptive suspension here. Also, 3 series is a bit small for me, I am 6.1 and I just don't like very small cars.
My s5 already barely enough space.
I dont think ill go to 4 cylinder engine anytime soon. We have a plugin in our family for comfortable drive and my car is more of a fun ride.

if it's a fun car why not go M3 or m3comp? The only reason I went with the 4 cylinder is i felt the six was a fake M (not track ready) but the M3 is too expensive to expensive to run on track (insurance, upkeep, etc.)

[totalone]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

if it's a fun car why not go M3 or m3comp? The only reason I went with the 4 cylinder is i felt the six was a fake M (not track ready) but the M3 is too expensive to expensive to run on track (insurance, upkeep, etc.)

I think my reasoning is about the same. I think m3 is a bit up there for daily driving, I just can't justify price for it yet. I do not track every week so mid performance line is probably a better fit for my current life style.
Plus, if I am to buy m car I wouldn't want it to be my daily drive, unless its m5, since they are a little more comfort oriented, and Iam still at college lol, so that will have to wait.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

if it's a fun car why not go M3 or m3comp? The only reason I went with the 4 cylinder is i felt the six was a fake M (not track ready) but the M3 is too expensive to expensive to run on track (insurance, upkeep, etc.)

LOL wtf a fake m car? How is it fake when it comes like that from BMW themselves?

[clearwaterms]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

LOL wtf a fake m car? How is it fake when it comes like that from BMW themselves?

BMW's real M cars feature "S" engines. The M340i while an impressive car is a rebadged 340i. It features a B58 engine instead of the S58 in the M3.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

BMW's real M cars feature "S" engines. The M340i while an impressive car is a rebadged 340i. It features a B58 engine instead of the S58 in the M3.

Nobody said the M340 was a real M. It's not an M car so I'm not sure why you're calling it a fake M. It's also insane that somebody would chose the 330 over the M340 because of that lol

[P_Leotardo]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

Nobody said the M340 was a real M. It's not an M car so I'm not sure why you're calling it a fake M. It's also insane that somebody would chose the 330 over the M340 because of that lol

Probably can’t afford the m340 so he has to disparage it.

[clearwaterms]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

Nobody said the M340 was a real M. It's not an M car so I'm not sure why you're calling it a fake M. It's also insane that somebody would chose the 330 over the M340 because of that lol

It was intended to poke fun at modern german cars (BMW putting M on the title of the M340, Mercedes calling the six cylinder C class the AMG C43, Audi calling the six cylinder A4 an S4). I think the 340 is a great car, it just wasn't the right car for me.

As to why I chose the 330 over the 340; I considered both; in the end it was about a $200 a month lease payment difference that I couldn't justify. Since I didn't think the 340 would stand up to track abuse, the cost savings could be redirected to tires, brakes, and fuel for my corvette track toy.

I had briefly considered the M3 but to get the wife's approval on an M3 I would have had to agree to go down to one car and sell my corvette. The problem with that is the track day costs of the M3 when you factor in weekend track insurance on an $80k car was too high.

[clearwaterms]

Originally Posted by P_Leotardo

Probably can’t afford the m340 so he has to disparage it.

I didn't intend to disparage it, simply trying to make a joke about all of the German marks extending their performance division down to the non performance derivatives.

[r3dbimmer89]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

I didn't intend to disparage it, simply trying to make a joke about all of the German marks extending their performance division down to the non performance derivatives.

Enjoy the "sub" performance brands while they last. Once BEV's take over, only differentiating aspect between a full M car and a standard AG car will be the number of batter packs and number of kilowatts.

We'll look back to these days and appreciate that Inline 6... no matter what badge is on the back.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by clearwaterms

It was intended to poke fun at modern german cars (BMW putting M on the title of the M340, Mercedes calling the six cylinder C class the AMG C43, Audi calling the six cylinder A4 an S4). I think the 340 is a great car, it just wasn't the right car for me.

As to why I chose the 330 over the 340; I considered both; in the end it was about a $200 a month lease payment difference that I couldn't justify. Since I didn't think the 340 would stand up to track abuse, the cost savings could be redirected to tires, brakes, and fuel for my corvette track toy.

I had briefly considered the M3 but to get the wife's approval on an M3 I would have had to agree to go down to one car and sell my corvette. The problem with that is the track day costs of the M3 when you factor in weekend track insurance on an $80k car was too high.

I see, well the M340 on the street will not lose too bad to a G80 unless you're talking the AWD one but unless you're going to the track it's not that big of a difference between them for daily driving. The G80 Shines on the track and if you drag the AWD. Other than that it's capabilities are wasted on daily driving to work which is why the M340 was made in the first place. It's pretty damn fast and handles very well and Deserves the "Lite" M badge because that exactly what it is, an M lite.

[clearwaterms]

Originally Posted by r3dbimmer89

Enjoy the "sub" performance brands while they last. Once BEV's take over, only differentiating aspect between a full M car and a standard AG car will be the number of batter packs and number of kilowatts.

We'll look back to these days and appreciate that Inline 6... no matter what badge is on the back.

While I welcome electric cars; I do agree that we are in the golden age of internal combustion cars and you're right the smooth sound of a BMW i6 ripping through the gears creates a feeling that the synthetic whirl of an electric car won't replicate.

[totalone]

So, has anyone actually made a move from b9 platform to m340 or m440 here?

I am really interested on what the comparison is. There is latterly no cars to test drive to compare, it would be nice to hear people experience.