[Alpine110]

Has anyone sourced M340i Staggered Fitment Crossclimate 2s ?

Seem to be able to get front fitment but not rear fitment? I was hoping not to end up with a second set of rims .

[JNW1]

Strange, when I was discussing CrossClimate 2's on another thread back in September I'm pretty sure they were showing on Michelin's website as being available in the sizes to fit the M340i (so 255/35 R19 for the rear). However, now when I look I can't see them - the only size that's showing for 255 wide on 19" rims is 40 profile not 35.

Hopefully this is something temporary relating to availability as I was going to fit a set of CrossClimate 2's when the Pirelli run-flats on mine become due for replacement. However, if Michelin aren't going to offer the right size for the M340i in the UK I'll have to think again - given the X-Drive system's apparent sensitivity to rolling circumference I'd be reluctant to fit non-standard tyre sizes.

[Rhino at Work]

Originally Posted by Alpine110

Has anyone sourced M340i Staggered Fitment Crossclimate 2s ?

Seem to be able to get front fitment but not rear fitment? I was hoping not to end up with a second set of rims .

I thought it was generally frowned upon to repeatedly take a rft on and off a rim as it's not good for the reinforced sides and that this was one of the reasons people have 2 sets of wheels?

[Scottish0177]

Originally Posted by Rhino at Work

I thought it was generally frowned upon to repeatedly take a rft on and off a rim as it's not good for the reinforced sides and that this was one of the reasons people have 2 sets of wheels?

I have read this somewhere too, and common sense would hint at it not being a good idea, at least not often

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Rhino at Work

I thought it was generally frowned upon to repeatedly take a rft on and off a rim as it's not good for the reinforced sides and that this was one of the reasons people have 2 sets of wheels?

But surely the idea of an All Season tyre like the CrossClimate 2 is you run them all year round? Regardless of whether your summers are run-flats or conventional I don't understand why anyone would swap regularly between those and All Seasons; if you're fitting (say) CrossClimate 2's I'd have thought you'd be getting rid of the summer tyres altogether?

I'm guessing Alpine110's reference to another set of rims was him thinking he might have to find some new wheels to accommodate the sizes available in the CrossClimate 2? However, if that was the case, a compromise might be to move to a non-staggered set-up with the same size tyres all round (say 235/40) on the existing 19" rims? That would get away from the concern about different rolling circumferences messing with the X-Drive system although what the effect on handling would be I don't know.....

[danorman777]

When my PZeros are worn I was planning to go Michelin CrossClimate2s so hopefully they will be available sometime soon? As you say JNW1 I will leave them on all year. Previous cars I have had a second set of rims but the cost got out of hand even swapping them myself.

[Charlie (Wessex)]

Would love to find an all season that is rft in the staggered size.

[Alpine110]

Was planning on fitting Pilot Sport 4S next summer if I do a European roadtrip and run the cross climates in the winter .

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Alpine110

Was planning on fitting Pilot Sport 4S next summer if I do a European roadtrip and run the cross climates in the winter .

As I said earlier, to me All Season tyres are exactly that (i.e. all year round tyres) so if you're going to use something like PS4S's in the summer - and then swap them out for winter - I'd be more inclined to go for a full winter as the alternative rather than an All Season like the CrossClimate 2.

[Rhino at Work]

Originally Posted by JNW1

As I said earlier, to me All Season tyres are exactly that (i.e. all year round tyres) so if you're going to use something like PS4S's in the summer - and then swap them out for winter - I'd be more inclined to go for a full winter as the alternative rather than an All Season like the CrossClimate 2.

Agreed.

[verysideways]

My PS4S are looking reasonably worn after 7500 miles, so i think before next winter i'll be looking at swapping them out for Cross Climates (1, +, 2, whatever is available in the right sizes) when they're done... i just have to get through this winter first.

For the last decade or so i've had two sets of wheels for my daily driver, kinda hoping to get away without needing the second set on the M340i if i can switch to Cross Climates.

[Charlie (Wessex)]

I had on my Golf R 18" PS4 (they didn't do PS4S in 18" back then) in summer and CrossClimate for colder months, as a full winter wasn't justified here in the south of England.

The PS4 were a much better tyre in summer grip and handling wise. But that's not to say the CC weren't also good, just not as good as the PS4. And noticeably so. I guess it then comes down to how you drive the car. I quite happily lived well into late spring with the CCs (before selling the car) but then I drove (relatively!) sensibly.

I'm looking at al season tyres for my car, but nobody seems to do 255/40R18 tyres... anybody know of any?

Stu

[Alpine110]

Thanks everyone for their responses , living in Aberdeenshire I think crossclimates will last well into the spring but I may well drive the Touring to Munich and potentially to some friends in Italy in which case I’d prefer to be back on full summer tyres.

First task seems to be getting something in the right fitment before mid December

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by Alpine110

Thanks everyone for their responses , living in Aberdeenshire I think crossclimates will last well into the spring but I may well drive the Touring to Munich and potentially to some friends in Italy in which case I’d prefer to be back on full summer tyres.

First task seems to be getting something in the right fitment before mid December

I understand where you're coming from but living in Aberdeenshire wouldn't it make more sense to have full winters and summers as a combination rather than All Seasons and summers? I'd have thought you get enough snow and bad weather up there to make full winters worthwhile!

[Charlie (Wessex)]

Originally Posted by stuarttunstall

I'm looking at al season tyres for my car, but nobody seems to do 255/40R18 tyres... anybody know of any?

Stu

https://www.contimediacenter.com/eul...B/03554960000/

Or scroll down on this page to see all sizes. Shame not RFT
https://www.continental-tyres.co.uk/...lseasoncontact

[rickkap]

I've just fitted CrossClimate to my car after having a blowout with the run flats. I could find CrossClimate 2 for the rear for just went for CrossClimate+ and 2's for the fronts.

I emailed Michelin and they said there wasn't much difference between them both.

Absolutely love these new tyres as i will be traveling to northern Scotland a lot during the winter season.

[bmnut]

Originally Posted by Charlie (Wessex)

Would love to find an all season that is rft in the staggered size.

So would I Charlie ! If you come across any let me know!

I'm not sold on all season tyres by any means (as per the comments I made on a post on another thread) but I'd be open to be convinced otherwise if the argument was compelling enough!

[Charlie (Wessex)]

Originally Posted by rickkap

I've just fitted CrossClimate to my car after having a blowout with the run flats. I could find CrossClimate 2 for the rear for just went for CrossClimate+ and 2's for the fronts.

I emailed Michelin and they said there wasn't much difference between them both.

Absolutely love these new tyres as i will be traveling to northern Scotland a lot during the winter season.

Do you have a space saver?

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by bmnut

I'm not sold on all season tyres by any means (as per the comments I made on a post on another thread) but I'd be open to be convinced otherwise if the argument was compelling enough!

All Seasons aren't as good as a top rate summer tyre in warm weather and they're not as good as a full winter in really cold conditions; therefore, you could argue you're permanently on an inferior tyre by fitting them.

However, the flip side of that argument - at least with a tyre like the latest CrossClimate 2 - is they're pretty much as good as a decent summer tyre in warm weather (unless you drive quite hard) and are pretty much as good as a full winter tyre unless it's very cold and/or there's lots of snow on the ground. Therefore, for a lot of drivers in the UK they arguably offer a good compromise without the need to swap tyres a couple of times a year.

Which side of the argument you come down on therefore depends on a combination of how you drive and where you live. Personally I don't think many of us in the UK drive like Lewis Hamilton on a public road or live in a place where the weather needs a full winter; therefore, I'm more in the camp that thinks a good All Season represents a sensible compromise...

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by JNW1

Which side of the argument you come down on therefore depends on a combination of how you drive and where you live. Personally I don't think many of us in the UK drive like Lewis Hamilton on a public road or live in a place where the weather needs a full winter; therefore, I'm more in the camp that thinks a good All Season represents a sensible compromise...

Yes, it's all about a sensible compromise.

I've always seen All Season as a "jack of all trades, master of none" until the latest tyres, like the CrossClimate. I run summer and winter, but seriously thinking of trying the CrossClimate on my summer rims.

I've friends running them up here, on lower powered cars. They do work, particularly as the seasons are not so marked these days and you can get caught out late spring, if you have changed over to summer tyres.

[JNW1]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Yes, it's all about a sensible compromise.

I've always seen All Season as a "jack of all trades, master of none" until the latest tyres, like the CrossClimate. I run summer and winter, but seriously thinking of trying the CrossClimate on my summer rims.

I've friends running them up here, on lower powered cars. They do work, particularly as the seasons are not so marked these days and you can get caught out late spring, if you have changed over to summer tyres.

We've had CrossClimate 2's on Mrs JNW1's Cooper S for a few weeks now; generally the weather has been relatively mild since they were fitted and I can honestly say there have been no downsides whatsoever compared to the summer tyres (Michelin Primacy) they replaced. Whether something like (say) one of the Pilot Sport derivatives would be noticeably better in warm conditions I don't know but to be honest I doubt she'd tell given the way she drives!

I'm absolutely sure the CrossClimates will out perform the summer tyre when the weather gets colder so at the moment the All Seasons are feeling like a good choice. Ok, they won't be as good as a full winter if the weather gets really bad but I've never bothered with those anyway as we seldom have severe winters here; obviously different where you live though and hence your choice might not be the same!