[NorCalAthlete]

I tend to have a lot of freeway miles, so I use EcoPro a ton. Solid 28 mpg average over 10k miles, and I have a pretty decently heavy foot I just drive smoothly is all.

Around town for shorter trips, I tend to stick with Comfort mode. It's plenty spirited enough for the usual traffic, no need to rip around in Sport+ when I'm already faster than 90% of everyone except motorcycles out there.

The only time Sport / Sport+ gets used on the street for me is when I go for the occasional jaunt through the twisties up in the mountains. Other than that, Sport+ is for the track (or when I run into another BMW who wants to play and there's no traffic...shhhhhh.)

[francton]

Originally Posted by oz555

Comfort mode is way different from Eco-pro. Eco-pro has much more wheel spinning and almost no engine braking. Very dangerous for bends unless You drive way too slow. Than, acceleration in Eco-pro is like You have half of an engine potentional. There is such a difference between two modes. I use Eco-pro only in traffic jams.

I used eco Pro only once. when my fuel lid wouldn't open and I had to drive 35km to the dealership with the indicator showing range of 50km left! the differences between eco Pro and comfort is quite big. very little revs, poor throttle response, sluggish. might as well drive a Camry. comfort/adaptive is my default, car is agile enough to leave a smoke on my face even on everyday drives. Sports for a windy road.

[oz555]

Originally Posted by francton

I used eco Pro only once. when my fuel lid wouldn't open and I had to drive 35km to the dealership with the indicator showing range of 50km left! the differences between eco Pro and comfort is quite big. very little revs, poor throttle response, sluggish. might as well drive a Camry. comfort/adaptive is my default, car is agile enough to leave a smoke on my face even on everyday drives. Sports for a windy road.

Me too. Comfort is default. Sport for windy. I haven't use Adaptive because it seems that Adaptive is like Comfort mode but with bit stiffer dumpers (not like sport but 15% more stiff than comfort). That's my experience with my car. I will try to use more Adaptive because I didn't explore it enough.

[squareforce]

I drive comfort when I forget to change it to sport individual. Then I come to a stop and that weird brake thing happens and I'm reminded why me and my wife does not like that setting.

Switch to eco pro in traffic, a long stop light or drive thru lines and occasionally on the way to work where it's the boring 30 min section.

Sport individual for everything else (comfort x3 and sport + engine, sport transmission, comfort steering)

[Mason Hatcher]

Originally Posted by squareforce

I drive comfort when I forget to change it to sport individual. Then I come to a stop and that weird brake thing happens and I'm reminded why me and my wife does not like that setting.

Switch to eco pro in traffic, a long stop light or drive thru lines and occasionally on the way to work where it's the boring 30 min section.

Sport individual for everything else (comfort x3 and sport + engine, sport transmission, comfort steering)

What weird brake thing?

[squareforce]

Originally Posted by Mason Hatcher

What weird brake thing?

I think it's the assisted braking from the mild hybrid. It kicks in and no matter what I do I can't make it a smooth stop. So I use my sports individual so it's off. I'm contemplating purchasing the bimmercode to code it out.

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by squareforce

I think it's the assisted braking from the mild hybrid. It kicks in and no matter what I do I can't make it a smooth stop. So I use my sports individual so it's off. I'm contemplating purchasing the bimmercode to code it out.

Is this the norm? I've never noticed it on mine. I drive an M340xi if that makes a difference.

[squareforce]

Originally Posted by zazzau

Is this the norm? I've never noticed it on mine. I drive an M340xi if that makes a difference.

I have a 21 rwd. If you have a 20 you might not have the mild hybrid.

[oonowindoo]

Originally Posted by zazzau

Is this the norm? I've never noticed it on mine. I drive an M340xi if that makes a difference.

Yes it is normal.

for all MY21+, if you drive in comfort mode enough, you will notice the braking "issue" when the car comes to a stop. Mainly due to the car basically turn off the engine too soon and the brake pedal feels very different when there is engine braking and when there is none and that transition between engine on and engine off is what causes the unnecessary sudden hard braking for no reason.

It does not happen every time, but it does happen enough times to annoy your passengers, especially if the passenger is your GF or your wife. They will give you the look like you did that on purpose.


I dont know how people could drive in Eco pro... the first 50% of the gas pedal travel does nothing...

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

Yes it is normal.

for all MY21+, if you drive in comfort mode enough, you will notice the braking "issue" when the car comes to a stop. Mainly due to the car basically turn off the engine too soon and the brake pedal feels very different when there is engine braking and when there is none and that transition between engine on and engine off is what causes the unnecessary sudden hard braking for no reason.

It does not happen every time, but it does happen enough times to annoy your passengers, especially if the passenger is your GF or your wife. They will give you the look like you did that on purpose.


I dont know how people could drive in Eco pro... the first 50% of the gas pedal travel does nothing...

Okay haven't noticed it; I have a MY21 build. I also just put it on adaptive.

[oonowindoo]

if you dont have the ASS on in your adaptive settings, then you will not feel it.

Put the engine in sport will solve this since the engine will not just turn off when you are still a good 20 feet away from where you want to stop.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

if you dont have the ASS on in your adaptive settings, then you will not feel it.

Put the engine in sport will solve this since the engine will not just turn off when you are still a good 20 feet away from where you want to stop.

Those of us with the 530e technically have ASS but in practice...no. The ICE shuts off but the electric motor continues so the car does a traditional creep unless one keeps the foot on the brake or uses auto hold.

[oonowindoo]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

Those of us with the 530e technically have ASS but in practice...no. The ICE shuts off but the electric motor continues so the car does a traditional creep unless one keeps the foot on the brake or uses auto hold.

None of us was talking about 530e.

The 530e is very different than a 48V mild hybrid. 530e can go 20 something miles on electric motor only. M340i cannot. So how and when the electric motors kick in is very different.

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

if you dont have the ASS on in your adaptive settings, then you will not feel it.

Put the engine in sport will solve this since the engine will not just turn off when you are still a good 20 feet away from where you want to stop.

Yeah I have Automatic Start/Stop in Adaptive (no option to set individual Adaptive as far as I am aware.) No issues so far - at least not that I've noticed.

[TruthOne]

There's a lot of Traffic in the Bay so being in sport mode makes no sense in bumper to bumper traffic. Might as well put it in eco and save some gas. Premium is $5.50 here.

[zazzau]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

There's a lot of Traffic in the Bay so being in sport mode makes no sense in bumper to bumper traffic. Might as well put it in eco and save some gas. Premium is $5.50 here.

Correct. Place it in Eco or Adaptive and enable Driver/Steering Assistant and you're all set.

[oonowindoo]

Originally Posted by TruthOne

There's a lot of Traffic in the Bay so being in sport mode makes no sense in bumper to bumper traffic. Might as well put it in eco and save some gas. Premium is $5.50 here.

There is also a Comfort Mode between Sport and Eco...

Eco mode feels like death even in traffic.

[TruthOne]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

There is also a Comfort Mode between Sport and Eco...

Eco mode feels like death even in traffic.

I only used eco once when I was extremely low on gas trying to find a station. Other than that I'll use comfort in traffic

[oonowindoo]

yah.. i used it once cuz my gas was at 0 or - mile left

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

None of us was talking about 530e.

The 530e is very different than a 48V mild hybrid. 530e can go 20 something miles on electric motor only. M340i cannot. So how and when the electric motors kick in is very different.

Duh. I know that. I was providing information for other potential 5 series customers that all 5 series don't behave that way.

[Cortexiphan]

I use eco pro with comfort+ suspension when I'm in traffic - mostly on drive assist mode.
When I drive myself, comfort+ in the city, adaptive on the highway, sport or sport+ in empty winding roads.

[jbarba]

Originally Posted by oonowindoo

Yes it is normal.

for all MY21+, if you drive in comfort mode enough, you will notice the braking "issue" when the car comes to a stop. Mainly due to the car basically turn off the engine too soon and the brake pedal feels very different when there is engine braking and when there is none and that transition between engine on and engine off is what causes the unnecessary sudden hard braking for no reason.

It does not happen every time, but it does happen enough times to annoy your passengers, especially if the passenger is your GF or your wife. They will give you the look like you did that on purpose.


I dont know how people could drive in Eco pro... the first 50% of the gas pedal travel does nothing...

i ha e exactly this behaviour with ASS activated, and with traffic just in front of the car, seems like kafas recognize this pattern and shutoff ICE just before the car fully stop, adding force to braking operation. Not in all stops ASS shuts down ICE before stop (so i think kafas has to do with it)

My g21 is 2020'feb , no mildhybrid