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      08-06-2020, 08:16 AM   #221
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Liking what I see more and more . . . and the S58 is not even visible.

A few observations . . .

1. The rear end has clearly been taken from ‘square’ to ‘rounded’ across the trunk line.

2. Unlike shown in renders presented to date, the rear taillights are not incorporated into trunk line (e.g., as with the F87).

3. The gas cover now appears ‘square’ as opposed to ‘round’ in the F87, and door handles are inset with door panel. Nothing to write home about.

4. Seems there will clearly be some vertical side vents behind the front wheels. Covered in the pics and, no doubt, non-functional.

5. The side running panels appear much more pronounced/aggressive compared the F87.

6. Difficult to state with certainty but appears that have taken the ‘blunted’ F87 rear quarter (behind the C pillar) and ‘stretched’ it out. If so, the ONE thing I dislike the about the F87 will be significantly improved upon.

7. Front end looks a little vanilla in spy pics, BUT it seems clear the front grille atrocity that appears on the G80/G82 will not be inherited. I anticipate the ‘vanilla’ will be quickly become more menacing with removal of the camouflage and some tweaks in the G87 M2/M2C.

8. I think it was previously established HUD is coming and it appear ACC is also on the horizon. Dig the former, but ambivalent about the latter.

9. Overall, looking more and more like the G87 M2 will be the new M4. The M4 enthusiasts want instead of what they are getting with the oversized and overdesigned G82. Wishful thinking, but it would be great if the G87 M2 could shed a couple hundred pounds over the F87.

///AVM

These pics are of the regular 2 series,G42,not the new M2,G87.So it isn’t a surprise that this car has the same square designed gas cap as the current 2 series.

I really like the proportions on this new 2 series.Looks very sporty and has very little wheel gap.
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By my eye, I do not believe the taillights resemble the cargo elevator pics . . . the lights do not extend into the trunk line (as seen in the cargo elevator).

Also, I thought it was established that the cargo elevator were of a 1 series, not 2 series?

///AVM

If you look at the outline of the hood in these pics,the design looks exactly the same as the car shown in the elevator.My guess is that car is probably the new 2 series.
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Isn't this just supposed to be the new 1-Series interior? Not a bad thing, but not that big of a mystery is it?
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I would be most interested if they made a g87 m2 with 4 doors.
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Damn, that's a shame for European Delivery. My favorite vacation has been taking delivery on my 2er and driving through the alps.
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Damn, that's a shame for European Delivery. My favorite vacation has been taking delivery on my 2er and driving through the alps.
BMW Did away with European Delivery for all models. The program end was announced a couple months ago. Thanks 2020.
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You sure this is the M2? I think the new pics are the M240 or however that goes. Just a guess based off the exhaust. All the slanted exhausts are the m40's
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2. Unlike shown in renders presented to date, the rear taillights are not incorporated into trunk line (e.g., as with the F87).
The tail lights are incorporated into the trunk line
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You sure this is the M2? I think the new pics are the M240 or however that goes. Just a guess based off the exhaust. All the slanted exhausts are the m40's
No one said its an M2 as it lacks many M distinct features like quad pipes, grill slats, badging and fenders.

Also, please don't quote the entire OP and photos it creates this mess on the app
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Looks clean. I'm diggin' it. Please, PLEASE don't have the backwards digital tach.
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The tail lights are incorporated into the trunk line
Lem

I think this a matter of terminology . . . I believe what I meant and what are saying are the same thing.

Let me say it differently. The taillights do not extend across the trunk line in the spy pics presented here . . . as opposed to the F87, renders presented to date, and the pic of what I presume is a 1-series in the cargo elevator.

///AVM
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Looks clean. I'm diggin' it. Please, PLEASE don't have the backwards digital tach.
Hopefully it will have the base gauges that the 3er and 2GC uses. They may not be the prettiest but they are more traditional, although all of the good packages and options will likely force you into the stupid backwards tach gauges
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This looks pretty wide for the base 2er... I can't see them making the M2 any wider.
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If you look at the outline of the hood in these pics,the design looks exactly the same as the car shown in the elevator.My guess is that car is probably the new 2 series.
The front (hood) may be similar, if not the same, between 2-series 'spy pics' presented here and the pic of the car in the cargo elevator.

However, the rear is clearly different between the two.

I cannot say with certainty, but I do not believe the pics in the cargo elevator represent the 2-series. . . at least not the same version as spy pics presented in this thread.

///AVM
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Isn't this just supposed to be the new 1-Series interior? Not a bad thing, but not that big of a mystery is it?
Thankfully it's not the exact same interior based off the shape where the cluster meets the iDrive screen. I sincerely hope the new 2-series doesn't get the rubber dash like the new 1 and 2GC.
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Liking what I see more and more . . . and the S58 is not even visible.

A few observations . . .

1. The rear end has clearly been taken from 'square' to 'rounded' across the trunk line.

2. Unlike shown in renders presented to date, the rear taillights are not incorporated into trunk line (e.g., as with the F87).

3. The gas cover now appears 'square' as opposed to 'round' in the F87, and door handles are inset with door panel. Nothing to write home about.

4. Seems there will clearly be some vertical side vents behind the front wheels. Covered in the pics and, no doubt, non-functional.

5. The side running panels appear much more pronounced/aggressive compared the F87.

6. Difficult to state with certainty but appears that have taken the 'blunted' F87 rear quarter (behind the C pillar) and 'stretched' it out. If so, the ONE thing I dislike the about the F87 will be significantly improved upon.

7. Front end looks a little vanilla in spy pics, BUT it seems clear the front grille atrocity that appears on the G80/G82 will not be inherited. I anticipate the 'vanilla' will be quickly become more menacing with removal of the camouflage and some tweaks in the G87 M2/M2C.

8. I think it was previously established HUD is coming and it appear ACC is also on the horizon. Dig the former, but ambivalent about the latter.

9. Overall, looking more and more like the G87 M2 will be the new M4. The M4 enthusiasts want instead of what they are getting with the oversized and overdesigned G82. Wishful thinking, but it would be great if the G87 M2 could shed a couple hundred pounds over the F87.

///AVM

These pics are of the regular 2 series,G42,not the new M2,G87.So it isn't a surprise that this car has the same square designed gas cap as the current 2 series.

I really like the proportions on this new 2 series.Looks very sporty and has very little wheel gap.
Is that true? I'd forgotten that, no doubt as had AVM. Regular series has a rectangle, I actually had an M240i...time flies!
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Anyone else dislikeing BMW's new climate controls, squeezed in between the center vents?
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The tail lights are incorporated into the trunk line
Lem

I think this a matter of terminology . . . I believe what I meant and what are saying are the same thing.

Let me say it differently. The taillights do not extend across the trunk line in the spy pics presented here . . . as opposed to the F87, renders presented to date, and the pic of what I presume is a 1-series in the cargo elevator.

///AVM
Hard Camo panels are screwed onto the trunk lid.
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Liking what I see more and more . . . and the S58 is not even visible.

A few observations . . .

1. The rear end has clearly been taken from 'square' to 'rounded' across the trunk line.

2. Unlike shown in renders presented to date, the rear taillights are not incorporated into trunk line (e.g., as with the F87).

3. The gas cover now appears 'square' as opposed to 'round' in the F87, and door handles are inset with door panel. Nothing to write home about.

4. Seems there will clearly be some vertical side vents behind the front wheels. Covered in the pics and, no doubt, non-functional.

5. The side running panels appear much more pronounced/aggressive compared the F87.

6. Difficult to state with certainty but appears that have taken the 'blunted' F87 rear quarter (behind the C pillar) and 'stretched' it out. If so, the ONE thing I dislike the about the F87 will be significantly improved upon.

7. Front end looks a little vanilla in spy pics, BUT it seems clear the front grille atrocity that appears on the G80/G82 will not be inherited. I anticipate the 'vanilla' will be quickly become more menacing with removal of the camouflage and some tweaks in the G87 M2/M2C.

8. I think it was previously established HUD is coming and it appear ACC is also on the horizon. Dig the former, but ambivalent about the latter.

9. Overall, looking more and more like the G87 M2 will be the new M4. The M4 enthusiasts want instead of what they are getting with the oversized and overdesigned G82. Wishful thinking, but it would be great if the G87 M2 could shed a couple hundred pounds over the F87.

///AVM

These pics are of the regular 2 series,G42,not the new M2,G87.So it isn't a surprise that this car has the same square designed gas cap as the current 2 series.

I really like the proportions on this new 2 series.Looks very sporty and has very little wheel gap.
Is that true? I'd forgotten that, no doubt as had AVM. Regular series has a rectangle, I actually had an M240i...time flies!
I did not know that. . . I know the spy pics are not G87 M2/M2C, but did not know only ///M models get round gas lids.

Thank you for sharing that tidbit.

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Hard Camo panels are screwed onto the trunk lid.
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That may be true, but not sure how that would change anything. The taillights do not extend across the trunk line.

Now I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing?

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Hard Camo panels are screwed onto the trunk lid.
Lem

That may be true, but not sure how that would change anything. The taillights do not extend across the trunk line.

Now I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing?

///AVM
The panel is covering the actual lid boundary and inner edge of the taillight.
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