Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos 2020 X5 M vs 2020 Cayenne GTS

View Poll Results: Which car would you choose and why?
X5m competition 37 55.22%
Cayenne GTS 30 44.78%
Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-24-2020, 10:35 AM   #23
See5
Real Goon
See5's Avatar
United_States
270
Rep
606
Posts

Drives: Nothing
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (0)

I'll go the opposite way from most of this thread and pick the X5M. If we're looking at the Cayenne Turbo, I'd definitely change my answer.

I'd buy an RS6 Avant over both however, no questions asked.
Appreciate 0
      06-24-2020, 10:52 AM   #24
bucketfoot
Captain
bucketfoot's Avatar
United_States
315
Rep
672
Posts

Drives: 2014 X1 28i xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Centennial, CO

iTrader: (0)

Porsche. Just my opinion/personal taste, but there is nothing appealing about an X5 to me.
__________________
This post sent using 100% recycled electrons.
Appreciate 0
      06-29-2020, 12:31 PM   #25
ian3924
Private First Class
ian3924's Avatar
142
Rep
193
Posts

Drives: 2010 E90 335i 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Going through this predicament right now options are the 2020 GTS or x5m comp package. Leaning towards the X5m in tanzanite blue. Porsche never changes the front of their cars, the front of the 2020 gts looks the same ever since 2012
Appreciate 0
      06-29-2020, 02:37 PM   #26
GTF
Private First Class
GTF's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
151
Posts

Drives: X5 40i
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Saddlebrooke, MO

iTrader: (0)

BMW will obviously be better value (i.e. ownership cost). Porsche has exclusivity...less than 1/2 % market share...which is a nice ownership umbrella. While Porsche design never screams "brand new", they rarely look dated.
Appreciate 0
      06-29-2020, 03:04 PM   #27
jstein55
Colonel
jstein55's Avatar
United_States
4340
Rep
2,765
Posts

Drives: Mercedes-Benz/BMW
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Baltimore, MD

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ian3924 View Post
Going through this predicament right now options are the 2020 GTS or x5m comp package. Leaning towards the X5m in tanzanite blue. Porsche never changes the front of their cars, the front of the 2020 gts looks the same ever since 2012
How about a high-performance wagon like E63 or RS6?
__________________
Current Garage
2020 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 / 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 / 2005 BMW X3 3.0i

Gone But Not Forgotten
E36 325i 5MT / E46 330i 6MT / E90 335xi / G30 540i / 982 Boxster S 6MT / F87 M2C 6MT
Appreciate 0
      06-29-2020, 05:55 PM   #28
StatenEye
This is actually me below \/
StatenEye's Avatar
United_States
398
Rep
2,674
Posts

Drives: X5M F85
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SI NY

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2016 BMW X5M  [0.00]
2011 BMW X5M  [4.50]
2008 BMW E60 535i  [0.00]
1998 Suzuki Jimmy - Kia Sorento 2010 is my pecking order.
__________________
...
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 07:38 AM   #29
dmk08
Wash Yo Hands
dmk08's Avatar
United_States
4834
Rep
11,016
Posts

Drives: Walks
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTF View Post
BMW will obviously be better value (i.e. ownership cost). Porsche has exclusivity...less than 1/2 % market share...which is a nice ownership umbrella. While Porsche design never screams "brand new", they rarely look dated.
BMW will be better value? Are you not taking depreciation into consideration?
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 08:45 AM   #30
GTF
Private First Class
GTF's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
151
Posts

Drives: X5 40i
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Saddlebrooke, MO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmk08 View Post
BMW will be better value? Are you not taking depreciation into consideration?
Of course...
Created 4 yr. spreadsheet (beginning with cash price) including:
Depreciation
Rebates (financing+CCA)
Maintenance costs
Investment loss on capital (@4%)
Incremental taxes on pretax withdrawals
Incremental future PP taxes
Fuel costs

BMW represented a savings of $281/month over 4 yr ownership. That was enough (for me) to buy the X5.
The Cayenne had better resale in %, but $ depreciation was about equal. The BMW had a significant advantage in every other aspect. This comparison was based upon msrp difference of $11.8K.
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 09:19 AM   #31
KenB925
Second Lieutenant
777
Rep
237
Posts

Drives: ZL1, Raptor
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (0)

I know, lots of things have changed. I went from a Cayenne S, to an X535d (my wife wanted the X5).

Build quality in the Porsche was far superior.
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 09:29 AM   #32
SYT_Shadow
///M Powered for Life
SYT_Shadow's Avatar
United_States
5096
Rep
6,749
Posts

Drives: E90M/E92M/F80CS/X5 35/MiniCS
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Greenwich, CT

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeokimster View Post
The macan especially has door cards that quite indeed plasticky so much so full leather is almost a base requirement which at that point elevates the interior by quite a margin.

Overall, the poll results are quite interesting. Definitely had preconceived notions the x5m would have a landslide lead.
Definitely not. The forum is full of Porsche fanboys who for whatever reason hang around BMW-specific forums. It's quite sad. Imagine being in the Mustang forums and just droning on and on about how much better BMWs are than Mustangs...

We even have the resident Porsche troll in this forum. He has been banned a few times but continues coming back. Every single one of his posts is anti-BMW, yet still he hangs out in the BMW forum. Am I the only one who thinks it is a little odd?
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 10:02 AM   #33
dmk08
Wash Yo Hands
dmk08's Avatar
United_States
4834
Rep
11,016
Posts

Drives: Walks
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (19)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTF View Post
Of course...
Created 4 yr. spreadsheet (beginning with cash price) including:
Depreciation
Rebates (financing+CCA)
Maintenance costs
Investment loss on capital (@4%)
Incremental taxes on pretax withdrawals
Incremental future PP taxes
Fuel costs

BMW represented a savings of $281/month over 4 yr ownership. That was enough (for me) to buy the X5.
The Cayenne had better resale in %, but $ depreciation was about equal. The BMW had a significant advantage in every other aspect. This comparison was based upon msrp difference of $11.8K.
Interesting I would love to see that spreadsheet and what you had for maintenance costs between the two. Cayenne should be a good bit more reliable. I did a similar exercise and found the Cayenne to be a better value.
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 10:26 AM   #34
GTF
Private First Class
GTF's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
151
Posts

Drives: X5 40i
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Saddlebrooke, MO

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmk08 View Post
Interesting I would love to see that spreadsheet and what you had for maintenance costs between the two. Cayenne should be a good bit more reliable. I did a similar exercise and found the Cayenne to be a better value.
Maintenance cost was one of the more significant variances. I had $3,800 for the Cayenne (based upon my Macan S history), and a ballpark estimate for the X5 of $1,600 (that may be high?). Investment loss was the largest variance. BMWCCA and finance rebates were also important, since it only cost me $200 in short term interest to qualify for the finance rebate.
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 10:54 AM   #35
New2Roundel
Captain
378
Rep
770
Posts

Drives: Some fun stuff
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Philly, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I couldn't see spending this kind of money on an SUV, so my answer to this is colored by cost considerations. Some of it would come down to the driving experience, which can't be assessed by a list of stats. From a cost perspective, I would don't need to spend nearly $130k on an X5M comp with options. For nearly the same performance and with the options I'd actually go for, I could spend $115k on a regular X5M. I could also be happy with a GTS optioned to $115k. If I'm spending anywhere near $130k on these vehicle, I'd probably just go with a Cayanne Turbo with premium package plus being the only option for about $133k.

So, at $115k, I'd have to drive both the X5M and GTS to determine which one feels better. At anywhere near $130k, it would be a low optioned Cayanne Turbo all day long.
Appreciate 0
      06-30-2020, 11:07 AM   #36
dgoldenz
Captain
340
Rep
913
Posts

Drives: 991 GT3, JL Wrangler
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Las Vegas

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstein55 View Post
How about a high-performance wagon like E63 or RS6?
The E63S looks awesome, I had never really considered it but after watching the Doug Demuro review and a few others it's definitely on the radar for the next car. I also cannot imagine spending $115-130k on a brand new one of these or X5M/Cayenne when their value will drop like a rock.
Appreciate 1
jstein554340.00

      06-30-2020, 12:58 PM   #37
ShocknAwe
1Addict
ShocknAwe's Avatar
United_States
2544
Rep
7,200
Posts

Drives: E82 Mutt
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston

iTrader: (22)

Can't speak to the new ones but when we cross shopped GTS vs X5M it was a no brainer. GTS is such a good truck. Damn shame they don't make them NA V8 anymore
__________________
2010 135i 6MT Jet Black
N54/3 Converted ///Mutt | BUILD THREAD | GARAGE SALE
Appreciate 0
      07-01-2020, 09:48 AM   #38
jstein55
Colonel
jstein55's Avatar
United_States
4340
Rep
2,765
Posts

Drives: Mercedes-Benz/BMW
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Baltimore, MD

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Cayenne GTS reviews are in, overall looking pretty positive, should be some good competition.
__________________
Current Garage
2020 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 / 2019 Mercedes-Benz CLS 53 / 2005 BMW X3 3.0i

Gone But Not Forgotten
E36 325i 5MT / E46 330i 6MT / E90 335xi / G30 540i / 982 Boxster S 6MT / F87 M2C 6MT
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 PM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST