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      04-18-2019, 09:55 AM   #177
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      04-18-2019, 11:58 AM   #178
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The rear seems....extra long. I hope the non-convertibles aren't like that.
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Please don't take the hardtop off
It is the best thing BMW ever did
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      04-18-2019, 01:02 PM   #180
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Please don't take the hardtop off
It is the best thing BMW ever did
If that were true, someone else would have copied it. Folding hard tops are fine for mid engine exotics and small two seaters, but they're out of place on things with four seats.
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The rear seems....extra long. I hope the non-convertibles aren't like that.
Agreed.

One huge ass overhang.
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      04-18-2019, 01:10 PM   #182
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The rear seems....extra long. I hope the non-convertibles aren't like that.
Looks like a boat...horrible
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      04-18-2019, 01:23 PM   #183
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It does look rather long, doesn't it?
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To those lamenting the loss of the hard-top, thankfully, at least at least as far as I am concerned, the conversion to a soft-top is clearly a done deal. I can't think of a recently designed convertible that has a hard-top anymore. From what I understand, even MB will be converting the SL to a soft-top with it's next refresh / redesign. I didn't and wouldn't consider a 4 Series vert with a hard top.

While I love my M235i, I know the day will come when I'll need to replace it and sadly, word is the next version of the 2 Series will be Coupe only, leaving the Z4 or a 4 Series vert as my only viable option in the BMW family. The Z4 M40i is very nice, but I have a few issues with it, mostly it's just a bit small for a DD for me, especially the trunk. Hence my intense interest in the next m440i or M4 vert. I like what I am seeing so far. I just hope it isn't much larger, if at all, than the current 4 Series vert and hopefully it comes in at 4000 lbs or less. I like the way it looks with the top up, however, as another poster mentions, with the top down it looks a little long in the rear. Ideally in my mind the perfect shape and proportions would be that of a slightly smaller 8 Series vert. Only time will tell as the camo is slowly stripped away. Until then, like I said, I tend to like what I see.
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Get with the program.

Convertible's are timeless.

Folding hardtops are out like dial-up.
Ferrari Portofino disagrees. I'm sure their marketing and performance team knows a thing or two don't you think?
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Get with the program.

Convertible's are timeless.

Folding hardtops are out like dial-up.
Ferrari Portofino disagrees. I'm sure their marketing and performance team knows a thing or two don't you think?
Not really, see Mondial. The California/Portofino do an excellent job of showing the ugly high bustle required for a four seat folding hardtop. Look at how much lower the rear deck of a Gran Turismo convertible is than a C/P. Drive both and try looking over your shoulder. In the Mazzer, you see traffic. In the Fezza you see the rear seat.
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they had to make it that long to accommodate the price increase making it on par with the outgoing 6er this vehicle replaces.

a $70k m440i xdrive convertible incoming....
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they had to make it that long to accommodate the price increase making it on par with the outgoing 6er this vehicle replaces.

a $70k m440i xdrive convertible incoming....
Could def see 75-80k loaded up
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Have I missed a thread or are there spy pics yet of the coupe??
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Have I missed a thread or are there spy pics yet of the coupe??
ASTOUNDINGLY coupe spy pics hav enot surfaced... I keep looking.
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As always going to reserve judgement until the unveiling of the 4 series with the m sport package or least most of the camo coming off.
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      04-18-2019, 08:39 PM   #192
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The rear seems....extra long. I hope the non-convertibles aren't like that.
Agreed... not sure if it the camo is giving that... or If it is simply 6 series sized.


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they had to make it that long to accommodate the price increase making it on par with the outgoing 6er this vehicle replaces.

a $70k m440i xdrive convertible incoming....

Ha! on both counts.. true indeed. the 4 series has been pushed into the previous generation 6er price and size in the lineup.

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ASTOUNDINGLY coupe spy pics hav enot surfaced... I keep looking.
it's been the same way for multiple generations.. Sedan.. and one year after.. the coupe..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BMW_vehicles

E60 5 Series, mid-size luxury car (2003–2010)
E63 6 Series, grand tourer (2003–2010)

E70 X5, mid-size luxury SUV (2006–2013)
E71 X6, mid-size luxury SUV (2008–2014)


F30 3 Series, compact executive car (2012–present)
F32 4 Series, compact executive car (2013–present)



G30 5 Series, mid-size luxury car (2016–present)
G32 6 Series, mid-size luxury car (2017–present)



G01 X3, compact luxury SUV (2017-present)
G02 X4, compact luxury SUV (2018–present)

etc..

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Have I missed a thread or are there spy pics yet of the coupe??

it's not soup yet!

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What's with that softtop in 2019 dude ...
The metal-folding hardtop fad is over.

Finally!

Bring back the good old separate hardtop.

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I was just looking at E36 on autotrader... several M3 cane with the 'hardtop' - people like that if they're using it in the winter! I mean the F33 came in xdrive.
The E36 cabrio is one of the most classic lined ones.

And with hardtop on, you have this nice B-pillarless coupe.

Actually I love the hardtop so much it hardly every comes off.

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The E36 cabrio is one of the most classic lined ones.

And with hardtop on, you have this nice B-pillarless coupe.

Actually I love the hardtop so much it hardly every comes off.

Every time I see an E36 with its removable hard top installed, I have the mental vision that the car is wearing a hat. There is just something, that to my eyes, is out of balance with the hard top.
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The E36 cabrio is one of the most classic lined ones.

And with hardtop on, you have this nice B-pillarless coupe.

Actually I love the hardtop so much it hardly every comes off.

Very nice looking car, I prefer the removal hardtop on the E36 and E46, make the car look good IMO. Again very nice example of an E36

Wish I had one like it
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Every time I see an E36 with its removable hard top installed, I have the mental vision that the car is wearing a hat. There is just something, that to my eyes, is out of balance with the hard top.
I can imagine.

It is wearing a hat of some sort
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