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      10-12-2018, 03:42 PM   #111
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The tech specs listed are not for M340i hopefully we will get a bit more grip with close to 400 hp but seems unlikely
I highly doubt it. They'll save real chassis changes for the M3/M4
While I agree it's not likely, there wouldn't need to me any chassis changes to accomplish this just different wheel specs and at most different fender/wheel well linings
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They have a 2019 330i at BMW Canada in Toronto.The design looks much better when you see the car in person but I am not a huge fan of the new rear taillight design.The rear lights on the new 5 series look much better IMO.

Here are some pics.Sorry,the picture quality is pretty crappy.
Painted sliding calipers (rear)...you've got to be kidding me.

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Painted sliding calipers (rear)...you've got to be kidding me.
Not surprised on the bread and butter models, and that includes the M-sport models.

Like the G30 models, it appears to use the same caliper, suited to the electric parking brake. Probably the same TRW design.
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They should've changed the front more. In this attached portion of the G20 I can't even tell that it's a G20, looks almost identical to F30.

I had also photoshopped side vents onto the G20 and it looks weird. The vertical crease where it would go is horizontally inverted from every other BMW.
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      10-12-2018, 05:50 PM   #115
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They should've changed the front more. In this attached portion of the G20 I can't even tell that it's a G20, looks almost identical to F30.

I had also photoshopped side vents onto the G20 and it looks weird. The vertical crease where it would go is horizontally inverted from every other BMW.
This is semi ridiculous, all your saying is you wish they changed the wheel more. How much difference do you expect in the photo you have here. There's almost no sheet metal to view here.

The new three series looks new as a whole but is still distinctly 3 series...
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The silver Rearview Mirror Caps look terrible! It looks like a mistake .

BMW paint them the same color of the car please or black.

And the Butterfly Grill needs to be redesigned.
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This is semi ridiculous, all your saying is you wish they changed the wheel more. How much difference do you expect in the photo you have here. There's almost no sheet metal to view here.

The new three series looks new as a whole but is still distinctly 3 series...
When you crop out the back side view it looks like an entirely new car. Same with the rear view. It's just that bit that hasn't changed. It's not hard to do.

"Distinctly 3 series" in this context == E90-esque. Time to evolve.

Let's look at the front portion of the Z4 from the side. Much more of a dramatic difference.
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      10-12-2018, 06:45 PM   #118
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The silver Rearview Mirror Caps look terrible! It looks like a mistake .

BMW paint them the same color of the car please or black.
Those mirror caps are now a standard feature of all the M_ _ _ (M Performance) Models, as are the "mesh/crystal" twin kidney grille.

Personally, I always felt like the silver/aluminium contrasting mirror caps were too Audi-esque (i.e., S4, RS4, etc.) and the mesh/crystal design on the grilles is a page out of Mercedes-Benz's playbook ("diamond grille").





But, the silver/aluminium mirrors don't look bad in person (such as the M550i), it's just not a distinctively BMW design.

As for the mesh/crystal grilles, it'll take some time to get used to.
Going back on topic, a good question to ask would be whether Black M Performance Grilles with the single slat are a direct swap to the M340i.
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      10-12-2018, 06:49 PM   #119
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When you crop out the back side view it looks like an entirely new car. Same with the rear view. It's just that bit that hasn't changed. It's not hard to do.

"Distinctly 3 series" in this context == E90-esque. Time to evolve.

Let's look at the front portion of the Z4 from the side. Much more of a dramatic difference.

sort of on a tangent... but the e89 >>> g29 for me. I'm guessing the G29 drives better, but I wish it looked like the e89
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I'm a little underwhelmed by the looks of it in the wild.

It needs a black grille, better rims, and splitter or better spoiler.
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Kinda looks boring...
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Just noticed a kink on the body panel behind the front wheel
right before the curve sweeps up like a Lexus IS
not a fan of that kink either

the biggest thing is the grille and the bulbous lower rear

the rear lights are beginning to look more Audi like to me
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They have a 2019 330i at BMW Canada in Toronto.The design looks much better when you see the car in person but I am not a huge fan of the new rear taillight design.The rear lights on the new 5 series look much better IMO.

Here are some pics.Sorry,the picture quality is pretty crappy.
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But your photos show a bit more than most, I think they will make a super hot LCI M3 with this,
So I guess I'll wait another 3 years 😂😂😂
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      10-14-2018, 05:48 PM   #124
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It's not a terribly ugly design, but the rear reminds me too much of an IS (not necessarily a bad thing), the front bumper is ugly and the front grille isn't flattering either and those wheels should look different they remind me of the Audi S3 wheels.
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they should've at least made the tailights like this.
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they should've at least made the tailights like this.
I'm sure they saved something better like that for the LCI

At least we don't get halogen brake lamps and turn signals at launch.
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They have a 2019 330i at BMW Canada in Toronto.The design looks much better when you see the car in person but I am not a huge fan of the new rear taillight design.The rear lights on the new 5 series look much better IMO.

Here are some pics.Sorry,the picture quality is pretty crappy.
Keeps looking better to me.
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It looks bigger than that F10 behind it! Can't wait to see the yobos buying this heaping pile!
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It looks bigger than that F10 behind it! Can't wait to see the yobos buying this heaping pile!
Funnily enough, because that's what everyone says every new model launch, one wonders what E46 owners thought when the

E90 328i

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Funnily enough, because that's what everyone says every new model launch, one wonders what E46 owners thought when the

E90 328i

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E90 was actually smaller when compared to E46(-5mm average). G20 is significantly larger than previous F30(+39.5mm). I would also argue that the change in design language from E46>E90 helped the car appear smaller. While the same goes for F30>G20, but the opposite. The more aggressive and blockier design makes for a larger appearing car. Take from that what you will.
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E46                                  E90 -5mm average deviation from E46
Wheelbase 2,720 mm    Wheelbase 2,760 mm +40mm
Length	4,490 mm        Length   4,520 mm +30mm
Width	1,810 mm        Width	    1,780 mm -30mm
Height	1,440 mm        Height    1,380 mm -60mm
                                
F30                                  G20 +39.5mm average deviation from F10
Wheelbase 2,810 mm    Wheelbase	2,851 mm +41mm
Length       4,620 mm       Length       4,709 mm +89mm
Width        1,811 mm        Width	       1,827 mm +16mm
Height       1,430 mm        Height       1,442 mm +12mm
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Many of these comments are hilarious.

Please, go the F30 and E90 forums. Look at the early F30 comments in both forums, and you'll see the same comments about how this doesn't look like BMW, or a 3 series, or that it's too Japanese, or not German enough, blah, blah, blah.

I just got a 2018 Audi S4, and it looks very nice.
The problem?
It doesn't compare favorably to how both of my F30's drove, 335i Msport and 340i Msport.

When this S4 lease is over I'm heading back to BMW for how BMW designs driver ergonomics and it's superior engineering in drivability.
Those are the things that set BMW apart.

If you want your German sport sedan to look like it performs better, then go with an Audi or MB. If you want it to perform, feel, and work like a BMW, then get a BMW.

I got the S4 because my lease ran out and I didn't want to wait 6-8 months.
Had I known then what I know now I would have waited.
Life is short, change cars often.
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I just got a 2018 Audi S4, and it looks very nice.
The problem?
It doesn't compare favorably to how both of my F30's drove, 335i Msport and 340i Msport.

When this S4 lease is over I'm heading back to BMW for how BMW designs driver ergonomics and it's superior engineering in drivability.
Those are the things that set BMW apart.

If you want your German sport sedan to look like it performs better, then go with an Audi or MB. If you want it to perform, feel, and work like a BMW, then get a BMW. I got the S4 because my lease ran out and I didn't want to wait 6-8 months.
Had I known then what I know now I would have waited.
Life is short, change cars often.


Yup, it's a driving machine. And this one will probably better than the last. My mid-cycle update '16 340 with adaptive suspension and all the goodies is a great car. My lease is up in February, and I'm shopping. I tried an '18 Audi S5 V-6 and thought "Ehh". Driving home in the 340, I knew it was a better car than the new Audi.


I may get kicked out of the club, but I have never bought BMWs for what I have always thought were their 'rather ordinary' looks, but because they come closer to "the ultimate car" driving experience than anything else on the road. Now, if I can just get one with less than $10K premium over a Genesis G70 - - -
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