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      01-08-2019, 12:57 PM   #45
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MSRP on the M340i xDrive is $56,995 compared with $50,950 for the 2018 340i xDrive (comes with M-Sport package).

What do you guys think? The M340i comes with a stock LSD, and the bigger brakes that the F30 340i does not come with, but the G20 M340i doesn't have the upgraded HK stereo that was standard on the F30.

I currently have a well optioned 2017 340i and my lease is up in October 2019, so I should be able to get a 2020 M340i to replace it.

However I'm worried with the increased price and higher interest rates that the M340i might be overpriced unless BMW does something to help with higher residuals. I've seen $0 down leases on leasehackr for a Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio at $999/month, so if the M340i really approaches $900/month with $0 down, it almost makes more sense to lease the Giulia Q4 with 500hp.

imho BMW definitely needs to rethink the pricing or be ready to offer some deals to get the car closer to $700/month or less with $0 down. The 540i xDrive could easily be had for less than this right now (see leasehackr).
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      01-24-2019, 09:09 AM   #46
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Guys, I’m just thinking through the value proposition here and realized that an M340i with most of the options folks will want should pencil out to $70k. So a loaded M340i will end up leasing for over 900 or nearly 1000 a month once it’s all said and done and interest rates go up another few times by the times these cars are on sale.

We all know the days of great lease deals on BMWs are over but it’s only going to get worse with interest rates continuing to rise and the increased cost of a loaded 3 series. How many takers will there be for this car, as good as it may be, at 900-1000 a month? For a non-M 3 series?

I absolutely agree. You nailed it. One can easily calculate the price of the M340 using 330 package prices. (assuming we get M and track as standard equipment). The loaded car is 70 K

with residuals set at 57% and money factor of 0.00188 it is going to be expensive to lease. Use lease hacker to calculate.

But it is the new BMW reality. loaded X5s are in the high 90K range, 750s are in 120K range. M550 is 85K.

All lease at above $1000 a month
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So what options and packages add $14k to the base price of $56k? I think a lot will be standard such as Nav/stereo, basic driver assist, adaptive suspension. We'll see but they won't sell many at $70k. As has been said, I think it will match close to X3M40i pricing.
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Judging by the MSRP and BMWs current leasing paradigm, I'd be shocked if these could be had for less than $900 a month.
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So what options and packages add $14k to the base price of $56k? I think a lot will be standard such as Nav/stereo, basic driver assist, adaptive suspension. We'll see but they won't sell many at $70k. As has been said, I think it will match close to X3M40i pricing.
I used 330 packages and M340 xi MSRP and tried to build with all options except individual paint and leather (adds another 5K). compared to 330 M sport and track pack are mostly included in M340


MSRP $56,995


• COLORBlack Sapphire Metallic $550
• WHEELS19" M Double-spoke bi-color jet black wheels, style 791M w/performance rft
• UPHOLSTERYCognac Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitching/piping $1,700
• TRIMFine-wood trim ash grey-brown high-gloss
• PACKAGES + OPTIONS
Driving Assistance Professional Package $1,700
Executive Package $2,100
Premium Package $2,800
Power tailgate $250
Remote Engine Start $300
Wireless Charging and WiFi Hotspot $500
Harman Kardon surround sound system $875
Ambient Lighting
• DESTINATION + HANDLING $995
• TOTAL MSRP as Built$68765
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      01-27-2019, 11:28 AM   #50
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There is a good chance some of those options are included in base price.
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There is a good chance some of those options are included in base price.
I hope so too. I really like the car and hope to pay 700 a month for it like i do for my 440 GC now

But here is how i build 330 and got 20K in options. (on M340 = Msport and track are included)

330i Sedan

2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder Rear-wheel drive

STANDARD FEATURES
BASE MSRP$40,250
DESIGN
M Sport Design$5,000
COLORBlack Sapphire Metallic$550
WHEELS19" M Double-spoke bi-color jet black wheels, style 791M w/performance rft
UPHOLSTERYCognac Vernasca Leather w/contrast stitching/piping$1,700
TRIMFine-wood trim ash grey-brown high-gloss
PACKAGES + OPTIONS
Driving Assistance Professional Package$1,700
Executive Package$2,100
Premium Package$2,800
Track Handling Package$2,450
Power tailgate$250
Remote Engine Start$300
Wireless Charging and WiFi Hotspot$500
Harman Kardon surround sound system$875
Space-saver spare$150
Ambient Lighting
DESTINATION + HANDLING$995
TOTAL MSRP as Built$60,320
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I would strongly bet you won't have to add premium pack or leather. With your build there I bet it's only $8k in options added to get all that but we'll see.
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Assuming a loaded price of $65k, a 60% residual, an 8% discount from MSRP, and a $2000 lease incentive, the BEST we can hope for is about $775/month with tax. Many people will pay much more than that. Such a shame. I remember leasing my 2010 335 for $500/month loaded zero down. Heck, I leased my current 550 with an 86k sticker for $600/month with zero down. There are a lot of compelling cars you can get for $775 or a tad more. The m340i better be damn impressive.
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Heck, I leased my current 550 with an 86k sticker for $600/month with zero down.
How did you manage that kind of cap cost reduction? Did it crash into the wall and they welded the car back together? :D
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Assuming a loaded price of $65k, a 60% residual, an 8% discount from MSRP, and a $2000 lease incentive, the BEST we can hope for is about $775/month with tax. Many people will pay much more than that. Such a shame. I remember leasing my 2010 335 for $500/month loaded zero down. Heck, I leased my current 550 with an 86k sticker for $600/month with zero down. There are a lot of compelling cars you can get for $775 or a tad more. The m340i better be damn impressive.
That is tough. At least 550 have been out for a while.. so maybe some discounts, although that seems really aggressive. Also residuals are higher.

M340 is brand new model. so i do not expect such aggressive discounts. Plus programming is not that favorable now... maybe in 2 years from now.

Current Lease Program:

3 Series Sedan (2019MY)
15k miles / TBA
12k miles / 57% residual
10k miles / TBA

0.00188 money factor (BMW buy rate.. you have to negotiate hard to get that)
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$1,000 conquest cash
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I leased a loaded 2014 335i $61k for $600/month and a 2017 M4 $81k for $950/month. Both with $0 due at signing except for 1st month payment. I rolled all fees and taxes into the lease. There is no way I'd pay more than $700 for a loaded M340i. Anything more than that I'll be looking at other brands.
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I leased a loaded 2014 335i $61k for $600/month and a 2017 M4 $81k for $950/month. Both with $0 due at signing except for 1st month payment. I rolled all fees and taxes into the lease. There is no way I'd pay more than $700 for a loaded M340i. Anything more than that I'll be looking at other brands.
I need to know how you managed that.
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I need to know how you managed that.
12-15% off MSRP, 60%+ residual, and a lower money factor than what BMW has now.
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12-15% off MSRP, 60%+ residual, and a lower money factor than what BMW has now.
What month did you order? I know programs vary from year to year, but 12-15% off in the DMV area seems incredible.
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800-900 a month for a non-M? No thanks...
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How did you manage that kind of cap cost reduction? Did it crash into the wall and they welded the car back together?
It was old stock, but had less than 100 miles on it. I think I got about $16k off MSRP and a 66% residual plus some incentive cash!
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It was old stock, but had less than 100 miles on it. I think I got about $16k off MSRP and a 66% residual plus some incentive cash!
So technically a dealer demo/refurb? Even still, that discount and residual are insanely good. Seems like the days of high RV's on BMW's are a thing of the past.
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Lease quote from a local dealer for a 330i with m sport package and bare options.

36 months/36k miles
MSRP: $46,995.00
Due at signing: $2,000
Monthly payment $585

Looks to be approx. 8% off msrp for the new model including $1,000 conquest? What do you all think?
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I also ordered one in production

I should be getting one hopefully by April and it's about 62k and payment will be about 927ish a month. Think it's little too high?
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I should be getting one hopefully by April and it's about 62k and payment will be about 927ish a month. Think it's little too high?
Is $927 before taxes? If so, not a good deal.

On the "other" BMW forum's "Ask a Dealer" someone posted their lease numbers and for a MSRP of $60,045 their monthly payment was going to be $649.73 per month (does not include taxes). And that is with a slightly inflated Money Factor.

I realize your MSRP is higher, but over the course of 36 months you would pay $9981.72 more than the other person. So I would say that is a lot too high.

If $250-$300 of that is taxes, then maybe not so bad?
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I should be getting one hopefully by April and it's about 62k and payment will be about 927ish a month. Think it's little too high?
Is $927 before taxes? If so, not a good deal.

On the "other" BMW forum's "Ask a Dealer" someone posted their lease numbers and for a MSRP of $60,045 their monthly payment was going to be $649.73 per month (does not include taxes). And that is with a slightly inflated Money Factor.

I realize your MSRP is higher, but over the course of 36 months you would pay $9981.72 more than the other person. So I would say that is a lot too high.

If $250-$300 of that is taxes, then maybe not so bad?
No offense but $927 is insane for a non-M at that price. I would look for a better deal elsewhere.
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