[evo-mike]

Originally Posted by B58

LOL 112 on a stock evo.... every STi and Evo owners dream

Fastest to the line wins.

Nobody actually cares about trap speeds. Are you the type that loses by car lengths, then says to yourself that you actually won since your trap speed was higher?

[uniqueMR]

New M3 will rock it

[B58]

Originally Posted by evo-mike

Fastest to the line wins.

Nobody actually cares about trap speeds. Are you the type that loses by car lengths, then says to yourself that you actually won since your trap speed was higher?

If you’re local let’s go off a dig I’ll just slap on my nittos and even give you a 1 car gap of a head start

[JamRWS6]

Originally Posted by evo-mike

Fastest to the line wins.

Nobody actually cares about trap speeds. Are you the type that loses by car lengths, then says to yourself that you actually won since your trap speed was higher?

Trap speed says a whole lot about how a car accelerates at speed which a lot of people care about. While I was expecting a quicker time and higher trap speed this might also be attributed to the testing that was done and possibly not having a decent launch.

As others have said a F30 340i is already a high 12 second car at 109-110 so hoping others have better results with this car that should have another 50hp.

[________]

Guys comparing times on a vbox in an unknown location with unknown pressure, unknown temperature to other unknowns is pretty funny.

The only way to compare is when carwow puts the car next to another car. And I'm sure they will put it next to the 340i when it comes out. By then you'll know.

Everything else is just you wasting your time as it won't make sense one way or the other.

[Seba77W]

Originally Posted by svr21

12.6 is still impressive. It's like the same as my m4 zcp......maybe I am a bad driver

What? I ran a 12.5 with my 435i xdrive.

[ProperBimmer]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Yep. Numbers like these help put the price into perspective for all those people who think it is overpriced.

No it won't! Most bmw owners don't give a shit about 1/4 mile times.

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by ProperBimmer

No it won't! Most bmw owners don't give a shit about 1/4 mile times.

Most BMW owners probably would opt for the 330i though

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by ProperBimmer

No it won't! Most bmw owners don't give a shit about 1/4 mile times.

Ok. Fair point. But, most BMW owners are not the target audience for the M340. It is obvious that BMW is building this car to be a car for an enthusiast and it's modifications reflect that. If the car ends up being as good as it appears to be on paper, then some will find the performance worth the money. Others will not. Similar discussions were had when the M550 came out along with its corresponding price increase over the F10 550i.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by am3r1ka

Most BMW owners probably would opt for the 330i though

Exactly. I think many people are forgetting that the M performance cars are supposed to be BMW's answer to all of the critics who say they have watered the cars down too much, which they have. BMW is making cars for those critics albeit at a higher price point. The real enthusiast will pay for it because he or she sees the value. The other buyers will just buy a garden variety BMW. I think this is exactly how BMW intends for things to play out.

[440xiGCMSport2]

Originally Posted by evo-mike

Point is 12.6 does not make the car worth it at 57-70k or more. And luxury cars are not offered with sensatec seats.

if you don't consider a 3er entry level luxury sport sedan than you must be a sheik. To most I think it falls into this category sensatac or not. I don't think any BMW in Canada or US come with Sensatac anyways. I think Dakota leather is standard.
Is 12.6 really fast nope but it is more or less comparable to the competition and that is all it really needs. It needs to meet new environmental regulations. Not like the EVO has increased HP by much either. REGULATION is real.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMSport2

if you don't consider a 3er entry level luxury sport sedan than you must be a sheik. To most I think it falls into this category sensatac or not. I don't think any BMW in Canada or US come with Sensatac anyways. I think Dakota leather is standard.

For all of those people complaining about the lack of standard leather on the M340 for the price are forgetting that the M3/M4 don't come with standard leather either. If one wants a M340 at 56k, he or she isn't going to balk at another 3k for leather and nav. Either you want it or you don't. I anticipate the new M performance cars being very low volume like the M cars and appealing to those that see value in the performance merits of the car.

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMSport2

if you don't consider a 3er entry level luxury sport sedan than you must be a sheik. To most I think it falls into this category sensatac or not. I don't think any BMW in Canada or US come with Sensatac anyways. I think Dakota leather is standard.

Also it's plenty of technologies that come into play why "Luxury cars" are priced as such. Even though the engine does play a part, that's not the only contributing factor.

[440xiGCMSport2]

Originally Posted by am3r1ka

Also it's plenty of technologies that come into play why "Luxury cars" are priced as such. Even though the engine does play a part, that's not the only contributing factor.

Exactly. Look at a Bentley or Rolls and they aren't any faster. That is my point when the other guy was comparing his old EVO to the 3er just on speed. Heck just get a used civic and pop an engine in it. It will outrun lambos.
The 3er is the standard in its class for a reason. while the competition is real close BMW is still on top just by a bit. This coming from an Audi guy and MB guy. This is only my 2nd BMW and I am starting to see the reason why it is still on top.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Ok. Fair point. But, most BMW owners are not the target audience for the M340. It is obvious that BMW is building this car to be a car for an enthusiast and it's modifications reflect that. If the car ends up being as good as it appears to be on paper, then some will find the performance worth the money. Others will not. Similar discussions were had when the M550 came out along with its corresponding price increase over the F10 550i.

If that were true it would have a manual transmission option. Just saying. It's a poser M car. Plain and Simple

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMSport2

Exactly. Look at a Bentley or Rolls and they aren't any faster. That is my point when the other guy was comparing his old EVO to the 3er just on speed. Heck just get a used civic and pop an engine in it. It will outrun lambos.
The 3er is the standard in its class for a reason. while the competition is real close BMW is still on top just by a bit. This coming from an Audi guy and MB guy. This is only my 2nd BMW and I am starting to see the reason why it is still on top.

Yeah BMW kind of downplays a lot of features they have in their cars. Literally only the owners of these cars would get to experience this. This guy comparing his evo is equivalent to all the civics and Sentras that try to race me on a daily and I laugh. Not even worth it.

[buckybadger]

M3/M4 has got to be in the 3.0s - 3.3s range to 60 MPH with dynamic AWD.

I hope they improve the steering though.

[upsidedownfunnel]

Originally Posted by 225

0 to 60 in 4.2s .... stick a tuning box on it and sub 4 sec 0 to 60?!

I bet people will be able to get under 4s at a drag strip.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

If that were true it would have a manual transmission option. Just saying. It's a poser M car. Plain and Simple

No argument here....the car should have retained the 6MT option like the M3/M4 (for at least one more generation).

[Brake_Late]

[evo-mike]

Originally Posted by 440xiGCMSport2

if you don't consider a 3er entry level luxury sport sedan than you must be a sheik. To most I think it falls into this category sensatac or not. I don't think any BMW in Canada or US come with Sensatac anyways. I think Dakota leather is standard.
Is 12.6 really fast nope but it is more or less comparable to the competition and that is all it really needs. It needs to meet new environmental regulations. Not like the EVO has increased HP by much either. REGULATION is real.

No, I agree 100%. It's entry-level luxury. The term entry-level needs to proceed. Problem is the $57k starting point for the m340 xdrive comes with sensatec seats. Gotta pay extra for leather. Insane to me for a car at this price point and a 12.6 1/4mi isn't going to change my mind.

It's like Kia is trying to be BMW and BMW is trying to be Kia

[bimmer456]

So 4 seconds flat with x drive?