View Poll Results: My choice for a G8X M3/M4 alternative will be a: | |||
Mercedes | 56 | 9.82% | |
Porsche | 267 | 46.84% | |
Audi | 42 | 7.37% | |
Tesla | 40 | 7.02% | |
Chevrolet Corvette C8 | 53 | 9.30% | |
Other | 91 | 15.96% | |
A different BMW | 21 | 3.68% | |
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01-21-2020, 05:04 PM | #155 |
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That will be a great car. Hell it may not depreciate...
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There is another sedan option on it's way. Cadillac
If it was a Wagon, I would consider it, not sure if a manual will be available, but it is kind of a beast. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...socialflowTWCD |
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Wonder what they're going to put in the M4 GT3?
I can't believe it's going to be the same transmission they put in the X3M Comp - no racing driver would put up with that. Even the modified ZF8 auto box from the M335ir didn't stop them dropping it for an M2 Comp with a DCT. |
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It will be a sequential manual racing transmission like every other BMW GT3 race car, and as far as I know, every other competition GT3 vehicle from any manufacturer as well.
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We can expect the G87 M2 to switch to a ZF8. Therefore, a future M2 Racing based on that car (assuming there is one, which I'd say is reasonably likely) would with near certainty use the ZF8 as well. |
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The M2C is probably the most amount of power I'd want for a RWD chassis (although I was fine with the non-comp's power too), otherwise it becomes too powerful and hard to control and can even ruin the manual transmission experience because it can't handle the power similar to the F10 M5.
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Agreed! The small car enthusiast space is pretty amazing right now. But, the practical 3pedal, sedan/wagon space has few options. As much as I have tried I just do not like sporty SUV's my wife has one and I never want to drive it. My kids ask why I hate Mom's car? |
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I had to pay a good sum for my 1M and even though posters on here claim they are easy to find. I assure you they are not, it is hard to find the car you want and can take a good amount of time. The search for an analogue experience is getting expensive, IMO. This is a fascinating conversation between Chris Harris and Harry Metcalfe the founder of Evo magazine about the press's role in making cars too fast and less engaging. I still love modern cars if they have a good manual gearbox, but it is interesting to hear their opinion on the matter. At 50mins-30seconds |
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Cadillac's, other than the Escalade, aren't cool anymore to the general public and just lack in appeal. Even worse for Cadillac is that Lincoln is making a comeback and taking Cadillac's old position as the "Good Ol' American Luxury" manufacturer, while completely rebranding everything and going back to actual vehicle names (a strategy Cadillac will apparently adapt soon despite just changing the entire mode structure) while Cadillac uses the same strategy (although rebranded for the third time) of chasing the Germans that has been failing them for almost two decades. Cadillac is pretty much down in the dumps in the luxury world with Infiniti, and Acura (although based on the RDX, the next TLX and MDX could make a comeback).
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Looks like the CT5 or CT4 Flagship models (still don't know the official name) could be a considerable alternative. According to reports both the CT4 with the 3.6TT V6 and CT5 with the 6.2SC V8 will be receiving manual transmissions!
https://www.motor1.com/news/394841/c...nsmission/amp/
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